GlaxoSmithKline admits that vaccines cause autism

[Sebtopiaris]

Well, it seems you figured out.

People, a new theory has arised: people who live in cities are more prone to have autism than people in rural areas. Which means get rid of your technology and go live in the fields with the wild beasts. That is the only way to prevent autism for future generations.

No. He's saying that mercury causes autism, and that we should be more bloody careful where we put the stuff. Although he is using that fact to support a really tired, dumb argument, the presence of mercury in the environment cannot be dismissed as a posibility.

Also, if we're going to live in the wilds, can we pls do it in democratically-managed communes answering to a decentralised government? Communes could produce various things, like how grain from Ukraine was traded with textiles from Moscow pretty freely and efficiently during the Russian revolution. A combination of government shipment of supplies from other communes and barter would make a decentralised state with alright living standards if you approached achieving it the right way.

[New DeCapito]

This is absolute bull. Vaccines don't cause autism. I would be autistic if they did.

Autism has risen from 1 in 10000 in the 1980s to 1 in 29 today. We are on track to 1 in 1 if we don't stop using vaccines.

Autism has not risen greatly. Autism has simply become better diagnosed.
EDIT: And I'd rather have an autistic child than a dead one, no?

Source (a bad one, I admit, but that just puts me at your level):
http://i.imgur.com/THD4WJG.jpg

And you're still upset about that time you got burned in the other vaccine thread, aren't you?

[AiliailiA]

GlaxoSmithKline: we're passing this stuff along to the European regulators, as required by law. We trust you will respect our trade secrets and the medical confidentially we are party to. Because we know that you're particularly concerned about people dying, we've provided extra detailed case studies of the 17 kids who ... well, died.

Natural News: WE'VE HIT GOLD! Two children got Autism, and the evil poison peddlers ACTUALLY ADMIT IT! To the presses!

Bachmann America: I think at this point it should be incredibly obvious to anyone and everyone, that vaccines, cause autism and are resolinsible for the autism epicdmic. ...

Firstly let me say that I don't think the GSK confidential report is fake. There's just too much there to have been faked from scratch, and nor do I think some anti-vaxxer got ahold of a confidential report and added some Autism in there. The same cases are mentioned in different contexts, from what GSK describes in the introduction as "extracts from a living database". The discrepancies as well as the similarities between entries about Autism in different sections are absolutely perfectly in accord with the rest of the entries about everything from "crying" to "loss of consciousness" to "convulsions" which are reported as effects of vaccination.

Anti-vaxxers aren't that smart.

I spent more time than I care to admit reading the document (it's a report not a publication, it isn't nicely formatted and medical abbreviations are not defined, it's repetetive and sometimes contradictory ... it's a huge mess). And I must say I feel dirty? Not quite the word, harrowed and guilty and something else I can't quite name.

There are NO names of patients or doctors in there, but it still feels like prying into something private. Some of those kids got sick because their parents fed them stupid stuff, or didn't wash them. Some of the kids were beaten ... described as "child maltreatment syndrome" if you can believe that. And in a peek behind the scenes, doctors admit to having stuffed up a procedure as basic as giving an injection.

Anyway, it's real. Let me tell you what's relevant so you aren't tempted to read the thing yourself. Trust me, you'll feel bad if you do.

The vaccine Infanix^TM hexa went on the market in October 2000. This report covers 23 Oct 2009 to 22 Oct 2011 and later in the report there are tables and lists of "cumulative" reports including this one. It doesn't say, but presumably there have been reports to regulators just like this one, every two years back to October 2001.

In this report, 2 new cases of Autism as a possible consequence of the vaccine are reported.

Appendix 3A: Individual Case Histories Received in Time Period of PSUR for Infanrix hexa
Case No.: #D0068399A
Country: Germany
Report Source: HP, RA
Age/Sex: 5 Months/F
Form'n or Route : INJ, INJ, INJ
TDD: U, U, U
Treatment Dates†: 19 Dec 2000
16 Jan 2001
13 Feb 2001
Event Onset: 01 Apr 2001
TTO / TTOSLD: U/3, U/2, U/1 Months
Events: Autism*, Epilepsy*, Developmental delay*
Outcome: N (unresolved)
Comments: "It was reported that diagnose confirmed, but no data provided" (Page 756)

Case No.: #D0068059A
Country: Germany
Report Source: MD
Age/Sex: 3 Months/M
Form'n or Route : INJ, INJ, INJ, INJ
TDD: U, U, U, U
Treatment Dates†: 07 Mar 2007
16 May 2007
20 Jun 2007
04 Mar 2008
Event Onset:
TTO / TTOSLD: U/Unknown
Events: Autism*, Mutism*, Developmental delay*
Outcome: N (unresolved)
Comments:

These both look quite solid to me. The first more so, having a date of diagnosis, when the girl was 9 months old, two reporters (HP is health professional, RA is probably Regional Authority) and the "diagnose confirmed" comment found elsewhere.

So there is enough there to say that the Infanrix hexa vaccine may cause autism. The doctors reporting may have got it wrong, the doctors may have noticed symptoms coincidentally, but there is no reason to think they deliberately lied about it.

And it's consistent with the cumulative count in Appendix 4E which is 6 cases of autism since the introduction of the vaccine.

But here's what Natural Newbs didn't tell you, because it doesn't suit their narrative:

Information on the actual number of people exposed to Infanrix hexa in the different
countries is not available to the MAH. Therefore, the total patient exposure is approximated by the number of doses distributed which is the most reliable data available with regard to patient exposure for a vaccine in a post-marketing setting.

...
During the period covered by this report 24 283 415 doses of Infanrix hexa have been distributed. Since launch until the data lock point (DLP) of this report, 72 931 338 doses have been distributed. As vaccination with InfanrixTM hexa can vary between 1 and 4 doses per subject in accordance with local recommendations and compliance with the vaccination schedule, and assuming that one dose distributed corresponds to one dose administered, post-marketing exposure to Infanrix hexa during the SBR reporting period is estimated to be between 6 070 854 and 24 283 415 subjects. The number of subjects exposed since launch until the data lock point of this report is estimated between 18 232 834 and 72 931 338.

A one in 3 million chance at worst of developing autism from a whole course of vaccination for six diseases.

Just to put that into perspective. The infant mortality rate in Germany was 3.46 per 1000 live births in 2012. Birth and immediately after are when a baby is most likely to die, so let's eliminate deaths in the first month of life. I can't find figures for Germany, but here is data for England that allows an estimate of the infant mortality after one month ("post-neonatal" in Table 2). It's 1.1 per 1000 compared to 3.8 for neonates and post-neonates combined. In other words, more than two thirds of babies who die in the first year, die in the first month after birth. Note that we're not counting premmies, they're in the table too but aren't counted as infants. Now reduce that post-neonate rate a little to account for Germany's lower infant mortality than England, gives us exactly 1 in a thousand German babies that will die between a month of age and a year of age.

If you were living in Germany (where both the Autism cases were reported) and you had a one-month-old infant, the chances of them dying before their first birthday by any cause would be AT LEAST THREE THOUSAND TIMES the chances of them becoming Autistic as a result of you having them vaccinated.

Stick that in you all-natural pipe and smoke it, you illiterate death mongers.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Why is this thread still going on?

Why?

[AiliailiA]

This seems like a really bad source; look at the right of the page. It also advertises 'weird tricks to get 20/20 vision' and other things along with that.

I must admit I clicked on the one about inhaling silver colloid to protect your lungs from infection.

I should know better, but some old part of my brain saw the picture of a glass vessel with pipes coming out of it and suggested "when they say silver, they might not mean ... yknow, the metal ... and that totally IS a bong" and before you know it I'm reading the site and they're telling me that acidification of the body is really bad and their product is good because it has a pH of 10+

Yep, 10+. That should sort your acidification problem right out.

[AiliailiA]

Why is this thread still going on?

Why?

It's over when you want it to be over.

Or when a mod locks it I guess ...

[Lordieth]

Not surprising that such a questionable source would publish something like this. Any article that uses a sub headline like "irrefutable proof", only then to point to court rulings, rather than scientific data, should be immediately dismissed. What's more depressing is websites like this are allowed to propagate such blatant scaremongering to push their pro-health agenda. Maybe they should recommend some anti-autism crystals to protect against the evil big pharma illuminati.

[Calimera II]

This thread gave me cancer.

[Avaerilon]

This is absolute bull. Vaccines don't cause autism. I would be autistic if they did.

Autism has risen from 1 in 10000 in the 1980s to 1 in 29 today. We are on track to 1 in 1 if we don't stop using vaccines.

Don't you think maybe it's better diagnosis that's the main reason for that number rising? Plus, you need to give at least one credible source in your OP; as it stands, it's as weak as a moth.

[Val Halla]

Even if it's true, they're still worth it, right? Unless you like being diseased.

[Dyakovo]

Autism has risen from 1 in 10000 in the 1980s to 1 in 29 today. We are on track to 1 in 1 if we don't stop using vaccines.

And autism just didn't exist at all 100 years ago, right? Cause it wasn't diagnosed properly. Back in the day kids weren't "autistic", they were beaten into submission at school or lobotomized.

Also even if every single case of autism today was caused by a vaccine, that's still a lot better than magnitudes higher of dead people in a plague-ridden society. But vaccines don't cause autism so it doesn't matter.

Go spend a year in a third world country and you'll come back grateful for vaccines. Or if you don't get vaccinated, you won't come back.

Ah... The good old days.
*nods*
Don't we all miss the days of children not having autism and instead them dying of small pox, polio, measles, etc.?

[Gauthier]

And autism just didn't exist at all 100 years ago, right? Cause it wasn't diagnosed properly. Back in the day kids weren't "autistic", they were beaten into submission at school or lobotomized.

Also even if every single case of autism today was caused by a vaccine, that's still a lot better than magnitudes higher of dead people in a plague-ridden society. But vaccines don't cause autism so it doesn't matter.

Go spend a year in a third world country and you'll come back grateful for vaccines. Or if you don't get vaccinated, you won't come back.

Ah... The good old days.
*nods*
Don't we all miss the days of children not having autism and instead them dying of small pox, polio, measles, etc.?

Because Better Dead Than Retarded. *nod nod*

[Lordieth]

Even if it's true, they're still worth it, right? Unless you like being diseased.

Drugs and medicines are always about the pros outweighing the cons. Even the most benign of drugs have huge lists of potential side effects. Even if vaccines caused autism -which there's no hard evidence for whatsoever- the amount of lives saved by those vaccines is enormous. The whole autism affair began with anecdotal information and unsubstantiated claims, but like any conspiracy that takes hold in the public, it's persisting, and yet despite all the press, there's still no clear evidence.

[Laanvia]

(Image)

This ^^^

[Val Halla]

Even if it's true, they're still worth it, right? Unless you like being diseased.

Drugs and medicines are always about the pros outweighing the cons. Even the most benign of drugs have huge lists of potential side effects. Even if vaccines caused autism -which there's no hard evidence for whatsoever- the amount of lives saved by those vaccines is enormous. The whole autism affair began with anecdotal information and unsubstantiated claims, but like any conspiracy that takes hold in the public, it's persisting, and yet despite all the press, there's still no clear evidence.

I guess it's just an excuse, a terrible excuse, for people getting angry at governments?

[Teemant]

This is absolute bull. Vaccines don't cause autism. I would be autistic if they did.

Autism has risen from 1 in 10000 in the 1980s to 1 in 29 today. We are on track to 1 in 1 if we don't stop using vaccines.

I wonder if autism may be diagnosed too easily these days. Maybe the kid doesn't have autism at all but still gets diagnosed with autism.
I honestly don't think vaccines have nothing to do it.

Just a question: Are there people who benefit from increasing number of autism? Maybe someone earns great deal of money from it.

[Esternial]

Ah... The good old days.
*nods*
Don't we all miss the days of children not having autism and instead them dying of small pox, polio, measles, etc.?

Because Better Dead Than Retarded. *nod nod*

Also, and I might be a dick for saying it, autism isn't all that bad. I don't know in how many cases, but there are individuals that have autism and have contributed significantly to science and whatnot. If you look at it from the perspective of society as a whole, autism may in fact be a beneficial concept, creating absolute specialists in some fields.

Autism has risen from 1 in 10000 in the 1980s to 1 in 29 today. We are on track to 1 in 1 if we don't stop using vaccines.

I wonder if autism may be diagnosed too easily these days. Maybe the kid doesn't have autism at all but still gets diagnosed with autism.
I honestly don't think vaccines have nothing to do it.

Just a question: Are there people who benefit from increasing number of autism? Maybe someone earns great deal of money from it.

Humanity as a whole might benefit, so maybe the New World Order has something to do with it.

[Lordieth]

Drugs and medicines are always about the pros outweighing the cons. Even the most benign of drugs have huge lists of potential side effects. Even if vaccines caused autism -which there's no hard evidence for whatsoever- the amount of lives saved by those vaccines is enormous. The whole autism affair began with anecdotal information and unsubstantiated claims, but like any conspiracy that takes hold in the public, it's persisting, and yet despite all the press, there's still no clear evidence.

I guess it's just an excuse, a terrible excuse, for people getting angry at governments?

I think it's more that people want to believe that it's true, and don't view the situation rationally. When you have so many vocal people claiming it to be true, it's going to cause a lot of scaremongering, especially among parents, and it's now become an idea, and regardless of how wrong it is, it's not going to go away for a long time.

[Barboneia]

Because Better Dead Than Retarded. *nod nod*

Also, and I might be a dick for saying it, autism isn't all that bad. I don't know in how many cases, but there are individuals that have autism and have contributed significantly to science and whatnot. If you look at it from the perspective of society as a whole, autism may in fact be a beneficial concept, creating absolute specialists in some fields.

^This.

[Nintendo Landia]

We've heard it from the horse's mouth now: GlaxoSmithKline has admitted that vaccines cause autism, yet it still advocates the use of vaccines.

http://www.naturalnews.com/049458_autis ... Kline.html

NaturalNews) While the debate rages on about whether or not vaccines cause autism, a confidential document has surfaced that makes clear what science has led Natural News readers to believe: Yes, vaccines are linked to autism.

The document,[PDF] which runs over 1,000 pages, is from the fraudulent and corrupt GlaxoSmithKline. Several hundred pages in, it's revealed that vaccines are tied to autism. It's blatantly outlined in a chart, along with a long list of other conditions caused by vaccines, including "motor development delay," "tremor" and "altered state of consciousness." Autism is listed in this chart as a nervous system and mental impairment disorder associated with receiving GSK's Infanrix hexa vaccine.(1)

Signed by Dr. Felix Arellano, the Vice President and Head of Biological Safety and Pharmacovigilance of GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals, the document's introduction states:

This summary bridging report integrates the information presented in the two Combined Diphtheria, Tetanus and Acellular Pertussis, Hepatitis B enhanced Inactivated Poliomyelitis and Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine (Infanrix™ hexa) periodic safety update reports (PSURs) covering the two year period from 23 October 2009 to 22 October 2011.(1)

Vaccine is "favourable," despite long list of health conditions
The document suggests that, although there are several adverse health effects associated with vaccine, the risk is not deemed to be problematic:

The Company will continue to monitor cases of anaemia haemolytic autoimmune, thrombocytopenia, thrombocytopenic purpura, autoimmune thrombocytopenia, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, haemolytic anemia, cyanosis, injection site nodule, abcess and injection site abscess, Kawasaki's disease, important neurological events (including encephalitis and encephalopathy), Henoch-Schonlein purpura, petechiae, purpura, haematochezia, allergic reactions (including anaphylactic and anaphylactoid reactions) cases of lack of effectiveness as well as fatal cases.(1)

Yet, despite the long list of health problems mentioned, the document maintains, "The benefit/risk profile of Infanrix hexa continues to be favourable."(1)

In 2014, Infanrix was ruled by an Italian court to be responsible for a young Milan boy developing autism shortly after receiving the GlaxoSmithKline vaccine. As such, the decision was to award the boy for his vaccine-induced autism.(2)

The child received a series of Infanrix hexa injections in 2006, a vaccine designed to protect children from polio, tetanus, hepatitis B, diphtheria, pertussis and Haemophilus influenzae type B. Instead of being protected, his health declined: He developed autism. Medical experts in the Italian Court pointed to the confidential document, suggesting that the boy likely developed the condition due to the variety of antigens and thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative now banned in Italy due to its neurotoxicity) and a host of other toxic ingredients that were in the vaccine at the time.(2)

Of Infanrix hexa's thimerosal, the Court noted that it was "in concentrations greatly exceeding the maximum recommended levels for infants weighing only a few kilograms."(2)

Despite irrefutable proof that vaccines cause autism, court appeals are in the works
Interestingly, in 2012, the Italian courts made a judgement in a similar situation in which they ruled that the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine caused a child's autism. Just like the Infanrix hexa ruling, however, this finding has not set well with the Ministry of Health; they initially denied compensation to the family. Ultimately, the court granted compensation. Still, in the case of the young boy who was given the Infanrix hexa vaccine, the Ministry of Health has appealed, a process that's expected to take several years to sort out.(2)

Such rulings should be applauded, although it's disturbing 1) that appeals have ensued, and 2) that the United States has yet to come close to such court decisions.

This document -- straight from the horse's mouth, GlaxoSmithKline themselves -- blatantly shows that vaccines are linked to autism and other conditions. What more is there to question, when the proof exists before our very eyes?

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/049458_autis ... z3YMpekKmX

I think at this point it should be incredibly obvious to anyone and everyone, that vaccines, cause autism and are resolinsible for the autism epicdmic. We have known this clearly for 17 years now, yet some people have still disagreed claiming conflicting evidence. However there is more and more proof than every before that vaccines cause autism, and now that we have heard it right from the horses mouth I think it is impossible for anyone to logically disagree that vaccines cause autism.

What do you think?

I'll ask science.

Science says it's nonsense. It's genetic, like the coloour of your skin and eys. So do statisticians who look at the stats that are recorded every time someone has a vaccine and comparing autism rates between those who have vaccines and those who haven't.
People who have vaccines are actually slightly less likely to get autism.
But why trust scientists who get the same money no matter what their findings are when you've got a website that sells "natural remedies" and "alternatives to medicine" that post laughable lies that help them to make big profits?
I suppose you trust Phillip Morris's opion on the health benefits of smoking?

[Teemant]

I read wikipedia article and it says that autism rate increased 30% in USA just in 2 years. Did they change autism criteria or something like that?

[Esternial]

We've heard it from the horse's mouth now: GlaxoSmithKline has admitted that vaccines cause autism, yet it still advocates the use of vaccines.

http://www.naturalnews.com/049458_autis ... Kline.html

NaturalNews) While the debate rages on about whether or not vaccines cause autism, a confidential document has surfaced that makes clear what science has led Natural News readers to believe: Yes, vaccines are linked to autism.

The document,[PDF] which runs over 1,000 pages, is from the fraudulent and corrupt GlaxoSmithKline. Several hundred pages in, it's revealed that vaccines are tied to autism. It's blatantly outlined in a chart, along with a long list of other conditions caused by vaccines, including "motor development delay," "tremor" and "altered state of consciousness." Autism is listed in this chart as a nervous system and mental impairment disorder associated with receiving GSK's Infanrix hexa vaccine.(1)

Signed by Dr. Felix Arellano, the Vice President and Head of Biological Safety and Pharmacovigilance of GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals, the document's introduction states:

This summary bridging report integrates the information presented in the two Combined Diphtheria, Tetanus and Acellular Pertussis, Hepatitis B enhanced Inactivated Poliomyelitis and Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine (Infanrix™ hexa) periodic safety update reports (PSURs) covering the two year period from 23 October 2009 to 22 October 2011.(1)

Vaccine is "favourable," despite long list of health conditions
The document suggests that, although there are several adverse health effects associated with vaccine, the risk is not deemed to be problematic:

The Company will continue to monitor cases of anaemia haemolytic autoimmune, thrombocytopenia, thrombocytopenic purpura, autoimmune thrombocytopenia, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, haemolytic anemia, cyanosis, injection site nodule, abcess and injection site abscess, Kawasaki's disease, important neurological events (including encephalitis and encephalopathy), Henoch-Schonlein purpura, petechiae, purpura, haematochezia, allergic reactions (including anaphylactic and anaphylactoid reactions) cases of lack of effectiveness as well as fatal cases.(1)

Yet, despite the long list of health problems mentioned, the document maintains, "The benefit/risk profile of Infanrix hexa continues to be favourable."(1)

In 2014, Infanrix was ruled by an Italian court to be responsible for a young Milan boy developing autism shortly after receiving the GlaxoSmithKline vaccine. As such, the decision was to award the boy for his vaccine-induced autism.(2)

The child received a series of Infanrix hexa injections in 2006, a vaccine designed to protect children from polio, tetanus, hepatitis B, diphtheria, pertussis and Haemophilus influenzae type B. Instead of being protected, his health declined: He developed autism. Medical experts in the Italian Court pointed to the confidential document, suggesting that the boy likely developed the condition due to the variety of antigens and thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative now banned in Italy due to its neurotoxicity) and a host of other toxic ingredients that were in the vaccine at the time.(2)

Of Infanrix hexa's thimerosal, the Court noted that it was "in concentrations greatly exceeding the maximum recommended levels for infants weighing only a few kilograms."(2)

Despite irrefutable proof that vaccines cause autism, court appeals are in the works
Interestingly, in 2012, the Italian courts made a judgement in a similar situation in which they ruled that the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine caused a child's autism. Just like the Infanrix hexa ruling, however, this finding has not set well with the Ministry of Health; they initially denied compensation to the family. Ultimately, the court granted compensation. Still, in the case of the young boy who was given the Infanrix hexa vaccine, the Ministry of Health has appealed, a process that's expected to take several years to sort out.(2)

Such rulings should be applauded, although it's disturbing 1) that appeals have ensued, and 2) that the United States has yet to come close to such court decisions.

This document -- straight from the horse's mouth, GlaxoSmithKline themselves -- blatantly shows that vaccines are linked to autism and other conditions. What more is there to question, when the proof exists before our very eyes?

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/049458_autis ... z3YMpekKmX

I think at this point it should be incredibly obvious to anyone and everyone, that vaccines, cause autism and are resolinsible for the autism epicdmic. We have known this clearly for 17 years now, yet some people have still disagreed claiming conflicting evidence. However there is more and more proof than every before that vaccines cause autism, and now that we have heard it right from the horses mouth I think it is impossible for anyone to logically disagree that vaccines cause autism.

What do you think?

I'll ask science.

Science says it's nonsense. It's genetic, like the coloour of your skin and eys. So do statisticians who look at the stats that are recorded every time someone has a vaccine and comparing autism rates between those who have vaccines and those who haven't.
People who have vaccines are actually slightly less likely to get autism.
But why trust scientists who get the same money no matter what their findings are when you've got a website that sells "natural remedies" and "alternatives to medicine" that post laughable lies that help them to make big profits?
I suppose you trust Phillip Morris's opion on the health benefits of smoking?

That's partly incorrect.

It's not like the colour of your skin and eyes. Those are genes that are clearly correlated to their phenotype. We CAN'T make such a definite calls on the principal cause because we simply don't know it. There are different models and theories. It could be partly genetic, partly epigenetic, partly environmental, etc.

Maybe "autism" actually encompasses several conditions that have similar results but different causes.

It's like a cough. There are a lot of reasons why one might cough, and that particular cough may have different characteristics. Dry heave, whooping, barking, etc.

[Calimera II]

I read wikipedia article and it says that autism rate increased 30% in USA just in 2 years. Did they change autism criteria or something like that?

According to Dutch doctors (they voiced their disagreement last year on television) people get labeled too quickly. Nowadays almost everybody has a disorder, disability or allergy.

[Esternial]

I read wikipedia article and it says that autism rate increased 30% in USA just in 2 years. Did they change autism criteria or something like that?

I don't think there are set criteria, which means that determining autism is a pretty haphazard thing right now.

Hell, if you're socially inept and really good at maths but nothing else they might tag you with autism, too, even though you might just be a modest nerd.

[The Northumbrian Republic]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Naturalnews
DO NOT READ THE "ARTICLE" (PILE OF HORSE SHIT) THAT THE OP HAS COPYPASTED!