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Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:13 pm**

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Arana wrote:Pretty much. Vaccines use ethyl mercury, which gets flushed right out of your body. Methyl mercury, which is in tuna and is the kind being dumped in Texas... well, that'll fuck everything up.

Couldn't the presence of Methyl Mercury in tuna be attributed to the dumping of the compound into waterways?

Oh, absolutely. But it has nothing to do with vaccines whatsoever.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:14 pm**

Zeinbrad wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Mike Adams also heavily insinuated that certain scientists and journalists covering science should be killed. Not necessarily the greatest of people.

Link, now.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2014/07/22/mike-adams-monsanto-nazis-disturbing-article/

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:14 pm**

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Arana wrote:Pretty much. Vaccines use ethyl mercury, which gets flushed right out of your body. Methyl mercury, which is in tuna and is the kind being dumped in Texas... well, that'll fuck everything up.

Couldn't the presence of Methyl Mercury in tuna be attributed to the dumping of the compound into waterways?

It can be converted from ethyl to methylmercury, but I don't think our waterways have the necessarily environment to perform a reaction that might be able to convert it.

So I don't believe the ethyl mercury in vaccines are correlated to the presence of methyl mercury in waterways, if that's what you were asking.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:14 pm**

Sagredo wrote:
Romalae wrote:http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... DD6.f02t03

Paywall. The summary though does show it to be based on study of methylmercury and to be from 2007. Since then it's been discovered that ethylmercury is less neurotoxic even than that.

Ethylmercury being what thiomersal degrades to in the body.

Parents seriously concerned about mercury poisoning would be better advised to avoid fluorescent lights than to avoid vaccines. Particularly since vaccines don't have thiomersal nowdays.

They should have it. It allowed a single vial of a vaccine to be used safely on multiple people, and was utterly harmless.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:16 pm**

Benuty wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:Oh. OK. So vaccines are completely safe, and it's just environmental mercury that fucks people's shit up.

Well, the correlation in that map of Texas was pretty spooky. I don't know what else in those areas would cause such a high rate of autism, except maybe some other toxic chemical being dumped.

Given the maps come from a site that advocates the deaths of millions by easily preventable or long dead diseases no they aren't spooky. Just nonsense from a Smallpox worshipping cult.

Weren't the images taken from a medical journal? I mean, the article's taken what it said way out of proportion because the person writing it can't understand science, but it looks like a legit survey. Do you have the source of the map itself, because I doubt they actually made it.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:16 pm**

Ifreann wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Monsanto is injecting Zyklon B into our corn as we speak. *nod*

And harvesting corn to make chemtrails!

They're spraying us with dihydrogen monoxide!

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:17 pm**

Napkiraly wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And harvesting corn to make chemtrails!

They're spraying us with dihydrogen monoxide!

Oh my god! That sounds vaguely scary! BAN IT!

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:18 pm**

Esternial wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:Couldn't the presence of Methyl Mercury in tuna be attributed to the dumping of the compound into waterways?

Ethyl mercury is already a fairly small molecule. Small molecules are pretty hard to chip a carbon from, and I don't think our waterways have the necessarily environment to perform a reaction that might be able to - if there even is one, which I doubt.

So I don't believe the ethyl mercury in vaccines are correlated to the presence of methyl mercury in waterways, if that's what you were asking.

No, I was asking if the dumping of Methyl mercury could have gotten into fish via the water.
I'm well aware now that this ethyl stuff's safe because of how hard to react with things it is.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:19 pm**

Arana wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:They're spraying us with dihydrogen monoxide!

Oh my god! That sounds vaguely scary! BAN IT!

Did you know that whenever you see your dentist they expose you to dinitrogen oxide!!!!

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:20 pm**

Bachmann America wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:Here is your proof:http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism/ I send you telegrams about Frozen because I want your take on it.

Why should I believe anything the government says?

The government is often trustworthy. I thought you were an American patriot.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:22 pm**

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Bachmann America wrote:Why should I believe anything the government says?

The government is often trustworthy. I thought you were an American patriot.

A true patriot stands with his people, not his government. The people are really what a nation is.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:22 pm**

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Bachmann America wrote:Why should I believe anything the government says?

The government is often trustworthy. I thought you were an American patriot.

That's what Obama wants you to believe.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:22 pm**

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Bachmann America wrote:Why should I believe anything the government says?

The government is often trustworthy. I thought you were an American patriot.

I may not agree with you much, one of the few things I can agree with you on is vaccines are safe. Though not the Government is trustworthy.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:24 pm**

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Bachmann America wrote:Why should I believe anything the government says?

The government is often trustworthy. I thought you were an American patriot.

That, and the fact that it's not just the US government. It's also:

Other Governments
Scientists
Scientific Journals
Doctors
Pediatricians (Doctors for Children)
Many, Many Other People

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:24 pm**

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Bachmann America wrote:I knew someone was going to say that. It's a non government study that just is hosted on a government database. Whereas the CDC's page is literally a bunch of government "studies".

Also this:
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Hmm, interesting. I didn't know mercury caused autism, now I do.
Still, the amount of mercury in vaccines is minute. getting autism from vaccine mercury is like drinking a tablespoon of piss and getting urea frost all over your body. Or not, actually, seeing as at most urine is 10% or so urea, which is a fuckton more than the amount of mercury in vaccines.

Still, holy fuck, we need to find a safer place to get rid of mercury, and probably for safety take the mercury out of vaccines as well (provided we can replace it with another less harmful chemical). It looks like mercury in the environment's the problem, not vaccines, so hopefully more people become aware of the chemical's effects on human development.

Is there something wrong with my eyes, or does it say right there on map that the Toxic Release Inventory is for ALL CHEMICALS, not just mercury?

A look at the epa site for 1998 and 1999 TRI shows only one company declaring any releases of mercury compounds (Oxy Vinyls in Deer Park) with BP and Shell filing reports of zero releases. Mercury itself, no entries at all.

So I think what's up is that whoever made the graphic tried to find mercury releases through the TRI, and despite using a wider range of dates than for the autism map couldn't find enough to demonstrate any kind of pattern. So they just went with all toxic releases of any kind.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:24 pm**

Bachmann America wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:Here is your proof:http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism/ I send you telegrams about Frozen because I want your take on it.

Why should I believe anything the government says?

Utterly hypocritical of you to be named after a government politician then.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:26 pm**

Benuty wrote:
Bachmann America wrote:Why should I believe anything the government says?

Utterly hypocritical of you to be named after a government politician then.

I wouldn't call it hypocritical, considering the fact that Michelle Bachmann is utterly insane.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:28 pm**

Arana wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:The government is often trustworthy. I thought you were an American patriot.

That, and the fact that it's not just the US government. It's also:
Other Governments
Scientists
Scientific Journals
Doctors
Pediatricians (Doctors for Children)
Many, Many Other People

I'm waiting for the day when someone says that doctors don't allow their family members to get vaccines. Just waiting.

Also, there's no need to differentiate doctors and pediatricians.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:28 pm**

Arana wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:The government is often trustworthy. I thought you were an American patriot.

That, and the fact that it's not just the US government. It's also:
Other Governments
Scientists
Scientific Journals
Doctors
Pediatricians (Doctors for Children)
Many, Many Other People

Everyone and everything is out to get us and destroy America, except the OP.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:29 pm**

Bachmann America wrote:Why should I believe anything the government says?

Because your puppy-like trust of natural news either implies a total lack of skepticism or different standards of proof depending on whether or not the source says something you want to hear.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:29 pm**

Arana wrote:
Benuty wrote:Utterly hypocritical of you to be named after a government politician then.

I wouldn't call it hypocritical, considering the fact that Michelle Bachmann is utterly insane.

That's insulting to actually insane people. Like the Joker would be offended.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:30 pm**

Bachmann America wrote:
Amuaplye wrote:This is absolute bull. Vaccines don't cause autism. I would be autistic if they did.

Autism has risen from 1 in 10000 in the 1980s to 1 in 29 today. We are on track to 1 in 1 if we don't stop using vaccines.

The actual percentgae of the population that is autistic has remained roughly the same. Diagnosed with autism does not mean having autism.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:31 pm**

Linking to the search result itself didn't work for some reason. But you can put years in and select Texas and mercury/mercury compounds for yourself here.

Businesses that are dumping mercury probably don't tell the epa. And anyway they're part of the conspiracy right?

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:31 pm**

'Natural News' is the modern face of propaganda.

Posted: **Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:31 pm**

Sagredo wrote:

Is there something wrong with my eyes, or does it say right there on map that the Toxic Release Inventory is for ALL CHEMICALS, not just mercury?

A look at the epa site for 1998 and 1999 TRI shows only one company declaring any releases of mercury compounds (Oxy Vinyls in Deer Park) with BP and Shell filing reports of zero releases. Mercury itself, no entries at all.

So I think what's up is that whoever made the graphic tried to find mercury releases through the TRI, and despite using a wider range of dates than for the autism map couldn't find enough to demonstrate any kind of pattern. So they just went with all toxic releases of any kind.

That could mean that toxic chemicals might have some sort of deleterious effects on the body, alert the media!

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