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Postby Seriong » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:59 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:The Right-wing doesn't believe in studies. They are inherently ebulcommieliberalnaziscuminfested™.

But a great majority of these anti-GMO anti-vaccine people are found in liberal communities and are left leaning. Why do you jump to accusing the right wing, are they to be blamed for everything?
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:04 pm

"Vaccination is a barbarous practice and one of the most fatal of all the delusions current in our time.

Conscientious objectors to vaccination should stand alone, if need be, against the whole world, in defense of their conviction." - Mohandas K Gandhi No One.

It's pretty easy to figure out, though the problem I have is the question that follows up. Where exactly does Autism start is someone is vaccinated?
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Postby -Ebola- » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:42 pm

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Eastfield Lodge wrote:What if they then develop measles, or mumps, or rubella and then die? Is having your child die of easily preventable diseases better than them "having autism"?

Measles is essentially harmless. It is good for children to get diseases like measles because it helps them develop natural immunity to disease.


Measles has a very busy schedule and it isn't able to visit every antivaxer household. If measles is unavailable, I can infect your children and help them develop natural immunity to disease. Try it free for 30 days, and if you aren't completely satisfied, just return the unwanted Ebola viruses and I'll give you a full refund.
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Postby Vandario » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:25 pm

no shit Sherlock? the world never ceases to amazing me (in case for some reason if someone can't tell I'm using extremely thick sarcasm)
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:30 pm

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The Children of Celestia wrote:That's what vaccines are, except the kids don't get the feeling of being sick, just the immunity.

Vaccines are are often don't working, are full of dangerous harmful chemicals, and are very serious in side effects, such as autism in the worst cases. No child deserves autism.


Why do people like you feel the need to say these things, despite knowing full well that it is nonsense ? People with less intellect or education tend to take it seriously, resulting in unnecessary deaths.
You are literally causing cute babies to die with sayings like this. And you know that. What I do not get is why ?
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:34 pm

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Bachmann America wrote:Vaccines are are often don't working, are full of dangerous harmful chemicals, and are very serious in side effects, such as autism in the worst cases. No child deserves autism.


Why do people like you feel the need to say these things, despite knowing full well that it is nonsense ? People with less intellect or education tend to take it seriously, resulting in unnecessary deaths.
You are literally causing cute babies to die with sayings like this. And you know that. What I do not get is why ?

Now now. We all know Vaccines causes Steam Beams to Melt. Why wouldn't they cause Autism?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:37 pm

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The Alma Mater wrote:
Why do people like you feel the need to say these things, despite knowing full well that it is nonsense ? People with less intellect or education tend to take it seriously, resulting in unnecessary deaths.
You are literally causing cute babies to die with sayings like this. And you know that. What I do not get is why ?

Now now. We all know Vaccines causes Steam Beams to Melt. Why wouldn't they cause Autism?


I dunno. Apparantly we live in a world where the same people who believe that vaccines cause autism also believe that letting their kids drink bleach will cure it... and we are supposed to encourage this because of "free speech".
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:38 pm

You know, they scrapped these in Japan a while ago, and the autism rates kept rising.
The only people who believe vaccines cause autism now are upper-class Californians who'll never have children die of disease and just general idiots.
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Postby Geanna » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:38 pm

Arstotzkas wrote:http://www.vocativ.com/culture/science/no-link-autism-and-vaccines-mmr/


As already known


As if there were any doubt what-so-ever
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Postby Geanna » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:40 pm

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Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Now now. We all know Vaccines causes Steam Beams to Melt. Why wouldn't they cause Autism?


I dunno. Apparantly we live in a world where the same people who believe that vaccines cause autism also believe that letting their kids drink bleach will cure it... and we are supposed to encourage this because of "free speech".


I'll call it what it is - child endangerment and pure idiocy. You've the right to your opinion and free speech, but it doesn't negate it being a stupid one.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:46 pm

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Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Now now. We all know Vaccines causes Steam Beams to Melt. Why wouldn't they cause Autism?


I dunno. Apparantly we live in a world where the same people who believe that vaccines cause autism also believe that letting their kids drink bleach will cure it... and we are supposed to encourage this because of "free speech".

Well, the latter statement works. Any disease can be cured by drinking enough bleach. And it's not just diseases like ebola, the flu, dementia, autism and a whole lot more- bleach can also cure human greed and suffering. It really is quite useful.

The practicality of such a miracle cure is debatable.
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Postby Roderia » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:49 pm

Bachmann America wrote:I know several people whose children developed autism after vaccinating. I have promised myself that I will NEVER vaccinate any Children that I end up having because I have seen it myself, firsthand that vaccines cause autism. I don't care what the data says, the fact is that it does happen.

Never have kids. Please.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:53 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
I dunno. Apparantly we live in a world where the same people who believe that vaccines cause autism also believe that letting their kids drink bleach will cure it... and we are supposed to encourage this because of "free speech".

Well, the latter statement works. Any disease can be cured by drinking enough bleach. And it's not just diseases like ebola, the flu, dementia, autism and a whole lot more- bleach can also cure human greed and suffering. It really is quite useful.

The practicality of such a miracle cure is debatable.

Doesn't really work, though. Oh, it does wonders on an individual level, but ultimately they still continue in one form or another. Only superlasers are powerful enough to permanently eradicate these scourges! Vote Death Star in 2016!
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:00 pm

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Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Now now. We all know Vaccines causes Steam Beams to Melt. Why wouldn't they cause Autism?


I dunno. Apparantly we live in a world where the same people who believe that vaccines cause autism also believe that letting their kids drink bleach will cure it... and we are supposed to encourage this because of "free speech".

I believe they don't "drink" bleach. It goes in another cavity.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:23 pm

In other news, if you tie fucking weights to your feet and jump off a boat into the middle of the ocean, you're gonna fucking drown.

This only comes as news to ignorant, privileged fuckers who believe every piece of pseudoscience their wine buddies from brunch tell them.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:25 pm

Bachmann America wrote:I know several people whose children developed autism after vaccinating. I have promised myself that I will NEVER vaccinate any Children that I end up having because I have seen it myself, firsthand that vaccines cause autism. I don't care what the data says, the fact is that it does happen.

"I don't care that the studies say blacks are no more violent than whites, I've seen it"

Bull shit. No you haven't. Because there's no correlation.
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Postby Geanna » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:02 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Bachmann America wrote:Vaccines are are often don't working, are full of dangerous harmful chemicals, and are very serious in side effects, such as autism in the worst cases. No child deserves autism.


Why do people like you feel the need to say these things, despite knowing full well that it is nonsense ? People with less intellect or education tend to take it seriously, resulting in unnecessary deaths.
You are literally causing cute babies to die with sayings like this. And you know that. What I do not get is why ?


The word you're looking for starts with a 'T' - Needless to say, I'm not taking them seriously.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:10 am

Roderia wrote:
Bachmann America wrote:I know several people whose children developed autism after vaccinating. I have promised myself that I will NEVER vaccinate any Children that I end up having because I have seen it myself, firsthand that vaccines cause autism. I don't care what the data says, the fact is that it does happen.

Never have kids. Please.

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Postby -Ebola- » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:51 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
I dunno. Apparantly we live in a world where the same people who believe that vaccines cause autism also believe that letting their kids drink bleach will cure it... and we are supposed to encourage this because of "free speech".

Well, the latter statement works. Any disease can be cured by drinking enough bleach. And it's not just diseases like ebola, the flu, dementia, autism and a whole lot more- bleach can also cure human greed and suffering. It really is quite useful.

The practicality of such a miracle cure is debatable.


Please don't say things that might encourage the use of bleach to fight infections. It is dangerous to everyone involved -- viruses, bacteria, and our hosts. For the safety of both your children and mine, if your kid gets Ebola, please do not try to treat it with bleach.

Also, in case there is anyone in the thread who has not figured it out yet, vaccines do not cause autism. I am tired of parents with autistic kids trying to play the victim when they are not the real victims of vaccines. They are like those Christians who cry that they are being oppressed when they are told not to use the public school system to spread their religious views. They go out of their way to get outraged over nothing, when actually, other people have much more serious cause for complaints. We should be talking about how viruses are affected by widespread vaccination, not this autism nonsense.
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Postby Cedoria » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:01 am

Bachmann America wrote:
The Children of Celestia wrote:That's what vaccines are, except the kids don't get the feeling of being sick, just the immunity.

Vaccines are are often don't working, are full of dangerous harmful chemicals, and are very serious in side effects, such as autism in the worst cases. No child deserves autism.

HAHAHA.

No child deserves diseases like measles either mate, certainly your point works both ways.

Or it would, if vaccines had any remote link to autism at all, which is clear to anybody who looks at evidence that they don't.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:08 am

Seriong wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:The Right-wing doesn't believe in studies. They are inherently ebulcommieliberalnaziscuminfested™.

But a great majority of these anti-GMO anti-vaccine people are found in liberal communities and are left leaning.


Citation?

http://www.fiercevaccines.com/story/sur ... 2014-01-29

^Unreliable source which cites a number of reliable studies (Dan Kahan for Yale Uni., and Pew). The Yale study is freely available at http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm? ... id=2386034

The study shows no significant difference between being on the left or the right as an American anti-vaxxer from a sample of about 4,000. The very slight majority votes Republican, like Michelle Bachmann.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:53 am

Bachmann America wrote:
Finland SSR wrote:Atrocious OP, but I'll let it slide.

Anyway, this was already fact, just that a few crazy parents thought otherwise.


If vaccines cause autism, regular diseases should also cause autism - a vaccine is merely an injection of weakened pathogen, as far as I know.
And they don't.

Because the vaccine causes a long term and chronic, traumatic brain injury which presents itself as autism.

Wait, does that mean that because I got vaccinated many a time during my life I suffer from autism and traumatic brain damage now? Well, I never knew. Thanks for informing me /s
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Postby Sparunica » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:03 pm

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Benuty wrote:Not exactly there are vaccines available so it would save those who got the vaccine in time. Of-course all the anti-vaxxers would be dead within the first month.

That's natural selection in process, survival of the fittest, and also the smartest.

Well, that is except for us poor folk with a compromised immune system. Trust me, getting chicken pox three times is not fun. I'd imagine smallpox is a little bit worse, with not just skin coming off but actual flesh.
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Postby Sparunica » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:07 pm

Bachmann America wrote:
Finland SSR wrote:Atrocious OP, but I'll let it slide.

Anyway, this was already fact, just that a few crazy parents thought otherwise.


If vaccines cause autism, regular diseases should also cause autism - a vaccine is merely an injection of weakened pathogen, as far as I know.
And they don't.

Because the vaccine causes a long term and chronic, traumatic brain injury which presents itself as autism.

Autism is not brain damage, it does not happen, it does not occur. It is present from the beginning, it does not progress or regress, it is just there. It becomes noticeable within a few years, and that's if you're lucky. I got diagnosed with high-functioning autism last Thursday and I'm 16. I'm quite unaware that vaccines are done by stabbing a child in the head repeatedly, otherwise how would they get brain damage? They're not giving them bloody meningitis, are they?
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Postby Esternial » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:12 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Bachmann America wrote:Vaccines are are often don't working, are full of dangerous harmful chemicals, and are very serious in side effects, such as autism in the worst cases. No child deserves autism.


Why do people like you feel the need to say these things, despite knowing full well that it is nonsense ? People with less intellect or education tend to take it seriously, resulting in unnecessary deaths.
You are literally causing cute babies to die with sayings like this. And you know that. What I do not get is why ?

It's also not how vaccines work. A vaccine's contents are typically very straightforward.

I could try explaining the specifics, but I doubt Bach has the attention span to keep up, so why bother?

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