Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:39 pmYeah, but the government is quite regulative.
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:39 pmPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:40 pmPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:41 pmPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:42 pmWHich is good. Makes companies treat employees and consumers right, which allows for greater general wealth which means more money to buy consumerist shit which means business makes even more profit.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:43 pmHenry Ford fan eh?
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:44 pmPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:44 pmWell, he was one of the greatest industrialists in American history, and actually gave a damn whether or not his workers starved.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:45 pmGrand Calvert wrote:https://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/twisting-jesus-into-a-socialist-the-leftist-perversion-of-christianity/
Interesting article.
One look at the top of the page, and it's clear that everything on it is going to be immensely biased.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:46 pmWell it's trying to argue a point. If it said "Jesus is a socialist", would you still say it's biased?
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:47 pmYes. I'm also a massive fan of capitalism. Just not the raw, unregulated kind.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:47 pmRIP Dearborn Independent last good political newspaper
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:48 pmMaybe. Depends on what's under the title. And around it. But when it talks about the "leftist perversion of Christianity," it's pretty obviously going to be biased.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:49 pmDid you read it?
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:49 pmThe GOP is not racist. They promote our cultural values.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:50 pmNo, but right under the title it reads: "Beware, for the MarxoFascist Liberal-Left is convincing the Lukewarm in the faith that being a good Christian, means being a good Socialist."
Ignoring how many contradictions that sentence contains, it pains me to read it and makes it clear that everything that follows is complete and utter bullshit.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:51 pmRoyal Hindustan wrote:Kincoboh wrote:Hong Kong and Macau are not colonies of China, they were colonies of Britain and Portugal that were given back. And yes, colonialism is required for mercantilism, that's why mercantile states had colonies. But mercantilism is in itself a form of capitalism, so the point is moot.
The culture of Hong Kong is far different than the culture of China. And no, mercantilism emphasizes state business, capitalism emphasizes private businesses.
Yes, because Hong Kong was a colony of Britain that was given back to China. The colonies in mercantile countries were used for their resources, which Hong Kong and Macau have none. In any case, mercantilism is related to capitalism, there's a clear common thread going from feudalism to modern day capitalism. Capitalism is an umbrella category, which includes a lot of variation. They are all based on production for profit, market-based allocation of resources, and structured upon the accumulation of capital.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:51 pmRoyal Hindustan wrote:Arana wrote:Yes, capitalism is responsible for great men like Andrew Carnegie. But, it's also responsible for the Gilded Age, a period of American history known for widespread poverty, low standards of health and safety, and a time where you could die in unsafe working conditions with no hope of compensation, dooming your family to starvation.
And by the way, Carnegie would still have flourished in a socialist state. He just would have been slightly less rich, but still pretty fucking rich.
While I agree with the low standards of health and safety at workplaces, I do not agree with the widespread poverty. During the Gilded Age, yes there was great income equality, but that does not necessarily mean people were poor. During the Gilded Age, the average income for the American increased, just the fact that it did not increase as drastically compared to rich men. While the Gilded Age was definitely not ideal, it wasn't as bad as Mao's Great Leap Forward, which under the banner of communism, killed 60 million people.
Except that wasn't communism.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:52 pmNew Werpland wrote:Royal Hindustan wrote:While I agree with the low standards of health and safety at workplaces, I do not agree with the widespread poverty. During the Gilded Age, yes there was great income equality, but that does not necessarily mean people were poor. During the Gilded Age, the average income for the American increased, just the fact that it did not increase as drastically compared to rich men. While the Gilded Age was definitely not ideal, it wasn't as bad as Mao's Great Leap Forward, which under the banner of communism, killed 60 million people.
No modern leftist is advocating collectivization.
*looks around*
Well I sure fucking am. Every modern anarchist/communist/socialist essentially is.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:53 pmYeah... no. They want to prevent Mexican immigration, both legal and illegal, and have passed discriminatory laws in the past. Plus, Mitt Romney once said that he wished he was Hispanic, because it would have made it easier to be elected President.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:53 pmArana wrote:United Russian Soviet States wrote:The GOP is not racist. They promote our cultural values.
Yeah... no. They want to prevent Mexican immigration, both legal and illegal, and have passed discriminatory laws in the past. Plus, Mitt Romney once said that he wished he was Hispanic, because it would have made it easier to be elected President.
You are white. You do not understand our culture.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:54 pmArana wrote:Grand Calvert wrote:
Did you read it?
No, but right under the title it reads: "Beware, for the MarxoFascist Liberal-Left is convincing the Lukewarm in the faith that being a good Christian, means being a good Socialist."
Ignoring how many contradictions that sentence contains, it pains me to read it and makes it clear that everything that follows is complete and utter bullshit.
I think what we're all forgetting here is that it's good to be biased to a certain extent when arguing a point, but the article (which I very briefly skimmed over) is just biased into the region of straight up bs.
Also, the sentence: Beware, "for the MarxoFascist Liberal-Left convincing the Lukewarm in the faith that being a good Christian, means being a good Socialist." Made me almost have heart failure. Partly out of sheer will since I'm apart of the same species that someone else wrote that very sentence, and partly out of involuntary reaction because that sentence is that awful.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:54 pmUnited Russian Soviet States wrote:Arana wrote:Yeah... no. They want to prevent Mexican immigration, both legal and illegal, and have passed discriminatory laws in the past. Plus, Mitt Romney once said that he wished he was Hispanic, because it would have made it easier to be elected President.
You are white. You do not understand our culture.
So are the majority of Republicans.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:54 pmRoyal Hindustan wrote:Kincoboh wrote:Capitalism works on the backs of slave labour, destruction of the environment, and imperialism. It creates huge social division and atomizes people. I don't know if socialism is the best antidote, but capitalism is a failure. Maybe instead of a new economic system we need a new way of thinking about ourselves and the world.
Capitalism exploits people for their labor. It thrives on destroying the environment in exchange for profit. It also exploits underdeveloped countries for their workforce.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:56 pmEh, I'm Christian and libertarian, but I'm not sure the bible talks about what the right political side is..
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:56 pm