Christianity and Libertarianism?

[United Dependencies]

Judging from what I've seen of your social views. You are definitely not a Libertarian of any variety.

I use profanity. That is quite libertarian.

That's probably closer to being a libertine than a libertarian.

[United Russian Soviet States]

Er, libertarians don't have a monopoly on swearing. Besides, you're the guy who wants anything even vaguely related to LGBT rights banned.

You're not a libertarian, you're a neoconservative who doesn't want to be honest. Nothing you support is libertarian.

No libertarian supports Rand Paul. *glares at USSS's sig*

He himself has libertarian views.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

No you're fucking not.

I am a fucking libertarian. I might not have used the word "fuck" if I were not one.

Great fucking argument you've got there. Show me something libertarian you support, other than profanity, apparently.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

No libertarian supports Rand Paul. *glares at USSS's sig*

He himself has libertarian views.

Rand Paul is a blatant neoconservative. He's worse than his father.

[United Dependencies]

No libertarian supports Rand Paul. *glares at USSS's sig*

He himself has libertarian views.

I'm willing to bet that he will make concessions in his view in order to get a better chance at the nomination. That, or he will remain as relevant as his father.

[United Russian Soviet States]

I am a fucking libertarian. I might not have used the word "fuck" if I were not one.

Great fucking argument you've got there. Show me something libertarian you support, other than profanity, apparently.

The right to not go to school.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Great fucking argument you've got there. Show me something libertarian you support, other than profanity, apparently.

The right to not go to school.

Your house is not on solid ground, my son.

You're looking more and more like a privileged, younger teen white guy the more you post.

[Ardoki]

Great fucking argument you've got there. Show me something libertarian you support, other than profanity, apparently.

The right to not go to school.

You don't have a right not to go to school.

You owe it to yourself and society to go to school, to be educated.

[United Russian Soviet States]

The right to not go to school.

Your house is not on solid ground, my son.

You're looking more and more like a privileged, younger teen white guy the more you post.

I am Latino.

[United Dependencies]

The right to not go to school.

You don't have a right not to go to school.

You owe it to yourself and society to go to school, to be educated.

While that is certainly an interesting topic in it's own right, I think we should try to stick to the topic of Libertarianism and how it fits in with Christianity. This is already proving to be a broad topic.

[Arana]

Your house is not on solid ground, my son.

You're looking more and more like a privileged, younger teen white guy the more you post.

I am Latino.

I'm going to guess you're Cuban then?

[The Liberated Territories]

I love how threads like these all turn into arguments of semantics.

Well the title involves Christianity and Libertarianism. So we have to first establish what it means to be a Christian and a Libertarian before we can discuss how the two ideas fit together.

This involves definitions over what a libertarian is (which seems to have proved a contentious subject relatively recently). Of course, talking about how to interpret what's in the Bible is also its own thing.

It shouldn't surprise anyone that discussions on this forum frequently breakdown into debates over semantics. After all, we're dealing with people from a wide range of backgrounds, upbringings, and other different contexts. Unless a thread specifically lays down some definitions(and even then that doesn't always work), there's going to be some disagreement over how we all choose to frame certain issues.

Some people here who claim to hold a monopoly on a word apparently are ignorant of what an etymology fallacy is. But have no fear, two can play at that game.

Anyway.

This is true, it would help if the definitions of words are established outright, but if my experience in the Libertarian Discussion Thread serves, there will always be people who claim their group is "correct" or true, and everyone else is false. The history of the world and tribalism.

[Sanctissima]

No libertarian supports Rand Paul. *glares at USSS's sig*

He himself has libertarian views.

The only thing libertarian about him is his given name.

Which is actually a surname.

In honor of someone who hijacked the original libertarianism, liked to sleep in the beds of various men, was an Atheist and believed that religious people should be admitted to insane asylums.

The latter three are things which I imagine you'd have issues with.

[The Liberated Territories]

He himself has libertarian views.

The only thing libertarian about him is his given name.

Which is actually a surname.

In honor of someone who hijacked the original libertarianism, liked to sleep in the beds of various men, was an Atheist and believed that religious people should be admitted to insane asylums.

The latter three are things which I imagine you'd have issues with.

Rand actually claimed that libertarians (modern US definition) hijacked Objectivism. Rand just stole half her philosophy from Aristotle and the other half from Nietzsche and proclaimed it a philosophy.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

The only thing libertarian about him is his given name.

Which is actually a surname.

In honor of someone who hijacked the original libertarianism, liked to sleep in the beds of various men, was an Atheist and believed that religious people should be admitted to insane asylums.

The latter three are things which I imagine you'd have issues with.

Rand actually claimed that libertarians (modern US definition) hijacked Objectivism. Rand just stole half her philosophy from Aristotle and the other half from Nietzsche and proclaimed it a philosophy.

So they took something fucked up and fucked it up more.

Fantastic

[The Liberated Territories]

Rand actually claimed that libertarians (modern US definition) hijacked Objectivism. Rand just stole half her philosophy from Aristotle and the other half from Nietzsche and proclaimed it a philosophy.

So they took something fucked up and fucked it up more.

Fantastic

Nietzsche?

[Pandeeria]

Yes, they do very much. At least if you're going with a quasi-hypocritical right-wing version of Libertarianism.

[The Liberated Territories]

Yes, they do very much. At least if you're going with a quasi-hypocritical right-wing version of Libertarianism.

I never heard of this ideology before.

[Pandeeria]

Great fucking argument you've got there. Show me something libertarian you support, other than profanity, apparently.

The right to not go to school.

That shouldn't be considered a right.

I know I may sound old school here, but school should really be considered a privilege, not a chore. Especially compared to the third world shitholes where people would literally kill to be able to have their kids go to school.

[Pandeeria]

Yes, they do very much. At least if you're going with a quasi-hypocritical right-wing version of Libertarianism.

I never heard of this ideology before.

Quasi-hypocritical right-wing Libertarianism? The kind where people say "The government should be minimalistic as possible, but should still prohibit gays from marrying and should have an ultra-massive military budget."

[The Liberated Territories]

I never heard of this ideology before.

Quasi-hypocritical right-wing Libertarianism? The kind where people say "The government should be minimalistic as possible, but should still prohibit gays from marrying and should have an ultra-massive military budget."

Yeah we call those conservatives 'round here.

[Pandeeria]

Quasi-hypocritical right-wing Libertarianism? The kind where people say "The government should be minimalistic as possible, but should still prohibit gays from marrying and should have an ultra-massive military budget."

Yeah we call those conservatives 'round here.

Typical conservatives generally support a moderate sized government, in comparison to actual Libertarians.

Libertarians also have the tendency, though not always, of wanting to legalize things such as pot, gay marriage, abortion, etc.

[The Liberated Territories]

Yeah we call those conservatives 'round here.

Typical conservatives generally support a moderate sized government, in comparison to actual Libertarians.

In the US? All the conservatives I meet tell me they support a small sized government. Somehow.

[Arana]

Typical conservatives generally support a moderate sized government, in comparison to actual Libertarians.

In the US? All the conservatives I meet tell me they support a small sized government. Somehow.

A small government indeed. Except banning gay marriage. And abortion. And drugs. But not tobacco. And with heavy restrictions on immigration.

So yeah, small government. But huge.

[Pandeeria]

Typical conservatives generally support a moderate sized government, in comparison to actual Libertarians.

In the US? All the conservatives I meet tell me they support a small sized government. Somehow.

In reality, conservatives support a moderate sized government.