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Which Candidate Do You Support?

Ted Cruz
20
3%
Marco Rubio
65
11%
Rand Paul
98
17%
Ben Carson
53
9%
Carly Fiorina
18
3%
Jeb Bush
31
5%
Chris Christie
9
2%
John Kasich
42
7%
Donald Trump
151
26%
Someone else
92
16%
 
Total votes : 579

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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:33 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Another Romney? Seriously? About the only Romney who would be interesting would be his old man.

Platitudes and regurgitated ideas can only work for so long.

This batch is void of ideas for problem solving.


You don't understand what he was saying, he and I don't want to have Romney try for another time.
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Postby Baden Baden » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:33 pm

Ted Cruz is who I support

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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:37 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Diopolis wrote:If I vote in the republican primary, it'll be for either Rubio(for the person I want to win) or Huckabee(for my statement on where I want the party to move). Really, the republicans should nominate either Walker or Rubio. Smart money's on Rubio, because he won't alienate the rust belt quite as much.


That's more or less exactly how I feel on the matter. My heart wants Huckabee or Santorum, but my brain knows it needs to be Rubio, Walker, or Paul to actually win this. I'm an extreme oddity for my age group (I was either born at the tail end of the Millennial generation or at the very start of Generation Z) in that I'm a staunch social conservative.

Oh, I know exactly the feeling. Really, I'm more of a constitutionalist than republican, but if I lived in a swing state I would vote republican. I do somehow doubt Paul has the ability to win it- his message is too scattered(as in, tries to appeal to too many people) to beat clinton, not to mention being a bit radical in many positions.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:38 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Diopolis wrote:To be honest, the GOP could nominate someone who can win, or they can nominate another Romney. It all comes down to the primaries; I expect both parties will have exceptionally bloody ones.


Another Romney? Seriously? About the only Romney who would be interesting would be his old man.

Platitudes and regurgitated ideas can only work for so long.

This batch is void of ideas for problem solving.

I was mentioning another Romney in the context of it being a bad idea.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:43 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
Which is something I really fear, especially when you look at the polls. The establishment is clearly pushing Jeb, when all the polls show people like Rubio or Paul are much more likely to win than Bush III. I'm really hoping we can get through the primaries peacefully, preferably with a Rubio/Kasich ticket. I really like Santorum, but the aforementioned ticket will lock in a close race at the least if not certain victory.

If I vote in the republican primary, it'll be for either Rubio(for the person I want to win) or Huckabee(for my statement on where I want the party to move).
Really, the republicans should nominate either Walker or Rubio. Smart money's on Rubio, because he won't alienate the rust belt quite as much.


Rubio needs an economic plan.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/20 ... -a-reboot/
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:43 pm

Diopolis wrote:Oh, I know exactly the feeling. Really, I'm more of a constitutionalist than republican, but if I lived in a swing state I would vote republican.


Do mean Constitutionalist in terms of the Constitution Party or something else? In terms of voting GOP, I'm going to do that because I do live in a swing state. All the broken promises on things like abortion and such has really left me angered by the Republican Party at large, but they're still a lot better than the Democrats.

I do somehow doubt Paul has the ability to win it- his message is too scattered(as in, tries to appeal to too many people) to beat clinton, not to mention being a bit radical in many positions.


He's doing decent enough in the polls, but I do agree with this analysis.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:45 pm

Diopolis wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Another Romney? Seriously? About the only Romney who would be interesting would be his old man.

Platitudes and regurgitated ideas can only work for so long.

This batch is void of ideas for problem solving.

I was mentioning another Romney in the context of it being a bad idea.


Ah! Never mind then. :)
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:45 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Rubio needs an economic plan.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/20 ... -a-reboot/


We're still over a year out from the elections and several months are left until the primaries. He has plenty of time to solidify his plan(s), and the fact he is already basically biting at Clinton's heels says a lot.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:50 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Oh, I know exactly the feeling. Really, I'm more of a constitutionalist than republican, but if I lived in a swing state I would vote republican.


Do mean Constitutionalist in terms of the Constitution Party or something else? In terms of voting GOP, I'm going to do that because I do live in a swing state. All the broken promises on things like abortion and such has really left me angered by the Republican Party at large, but they're still a lot better than the Democrats.

I do somehow doubt Paul has the ability to win it- his message is too scattered(as in, tries to appeal to too many people) to beat clinton, not to mention being a bit radical in many positions.


He's doing decent enough in the polls, but I do agree with this analysis.

Constitution party. Since I don't have to worry about the democrats winning my state, I'll vote for 'em as a protest vote, mostly because they call for the right to secede being written into federal law.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:07 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
Do mean Constitutionalist in terms of the Constitution Party or something else? In terms of voting GOP, I'm going to do that because I do live in a swing state. All the broken promises on things like abortion and such has really left me angered by the Republican Party at large, but they're still a lot better than the Democrats.



He's doing decent enough in the polls, but I do agree with this analysis.

Constitution party. Since I don't have to worry about the democrats winning my state, I'll vote for 'em as a protest vote, mostly because they call for the right to secede being written into federal law.


I know, the GOP doesn't hate us sodomite faggots enough, huh?
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:08 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:I know, the GOP doesn't hate us sodomite faggots enough, huh?


You do know he's Bi, correct?
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:09 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:I know, the GOP doesn't hate us sodomite faggots enough, huh?


You do know he's Bi, correct?


And there are LGBT people who discriminate against other LGBT people, I was one before.
About me: I have a strong dislike of religion and the current social justice narrative. Used to be a SSPX-like Catholic, but not anymore. And no, my nation does not represent my real views...most of the time.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:09 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Constitution party. Since I don't have to worry about the democrats winning my state, I'll vote for 'em as a protest vote, mostly because they call for the right to secede being written into federal law.


I know, the GOP doesn't hate us sodomite faggots enough, huh?

I support them because of state's rights, not their opposition to homosexuality.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:11 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:And there are LGBT people who discriminate against other LGBT people, I was one before.


Congratulations, I guess.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:12 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:
I know, the GOP doesn't hate us sodomite faggots enough, huh?

I support them because of state's rights, not their opposition to homosexuality.


And the reason why all this recent massive talk about succession is because of the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage. Funny, I didn't hear this talk to due to dissatisfaction of Roe V Wade.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:13 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:And the reason why all this recent massive talk about succession is because of the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage. Funny, I didn't hear this talk to due to dissatisfaction of Roe V Wade.


You weren't even alive when Casey v. Planned Parenthood was decided nor was the internet around to actively document such things, little alone Roe v. Wade.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:14 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Rubio needs an economic plan.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/20 ... -a-reboot/


We're still over a year out from the elections and several months are left until the primaries. He has plenty of time to solidify his plan(s), and the fact he is already basically biting at Clinton's heels says a lot.

And he's only 'biting at her heels' because, like most of the mainstream GOP, he is running on a "She voted along side Obama" branded Anti-Obama bullshit rant.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:15 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I support them because of state's rights, not their opposition to homosexuality.


And the reason why all this recent massive talk about succession is because of the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage. Funny, I didn't hear this talk to due to dissatisfaction of Roe V Wade.

I've supported Texas secession for a long time. I just haven't been as loud about it.
And this is not the thread to discuss whether ssm can be opposed without homophobia.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:16 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:
And the reason why all this recent massive talk about succession is because of the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage. Funny, I didn't hear this talk to due to dissatisfaction of Roe V Wade.

I've supported Texas secession for a long time. I just haven't been as loud about it.
And this is not the thread to discuss whether ssm can be opposed without homophobia.


And Texas can't legally succeed from the union, you know this.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:17 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I've supported Texas secession for a long time. I just haven't been as loud about it.
And this is not the thread to discuss whether ssm can be opposed without homophobia.


And Texas can't legally succeed from the union, you know this.

And that's why I support a party that wants to legalize secession.
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:18 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Cannabis Islands wrote:And the reason why all this recent massive talk about succession is because of the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage. Funny, I didn't hear this talk to due to dissatisfaction of Roe V Wade.


You weren't even alive when Casey v. Planned Parenthood was decided nor was the internet around to actively document such things, little alone Roe v. Wade.


Wrong! I was born before 1992. And I've listen the to the oral arguments for that case. I love listening to Supreme Court oral arguments.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:18 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:And he's only 'biting at her heels' because, like most of the mainstream GOP, he is running on a "She voted along side Obama" branded Anti-Obama bullshit rant.


Even if that was true, you have no right to complain since that is what was done to John McCain back in '08. However, it's patently silly to suggest her own scandals and the usual voter fatigue after eight years of one party in the White House aren't playing a larger role. I almost wish this claim was true, because then the Democrats are utterly screwed in 2016 if merely talking about her voting alongside Obama has allowed them to catch up this quick after lagging for several months.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:19 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:Wrong! I was born before 1992. And I've listen the oral arguments. I love listening to Supreme Court oral arguments.


I read your bio as saying you were just 20, not in your 20s by mistake. Despite that, you were still way too young back then to really be able to keep your ear to the ground in terms of monitoring that, and the point still stands on Roe.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:50 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:And he's only 'biting at her heels' because, like most of the mainstream GOP, he is running on a "She voted along side Obama" branded Anti-Obama bullshit rant.


Even if that was true, you have no right to complain since that is what was done to John McCain back in '08. However, it's patently silly to suggest her own scandals and the usual voter fatigue after eight years of one party in the White House aren't playing a larger role. I almost wish this claim was true, because then the Democrats are utterly screwed in 2016 if merely talking about her voting alongside Obama has allowed them to catch up this quick after lagging for several months.


:rofl: Oh wait you are serious :?

If only the clown car had a decent choice. Once the issues start coming up for real as in say "what about jobs?" "we just need to give tax cuts to the one percent club and they will create all the jobs we need!!!!! oh yea and killing obamacare will get you a job!"

The platitudes won't work these days.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:58 pm

The Black Forrest wrote::rofl: Oh wait you are serious :?


Making pretentious remarks adds nothing to the conversation, and rather shows an inability to make an informed opinion.

If only the clown car had a decent choice. Once the issues start coming up for real as in say "what about jobs?" "we just need to give tax cuts to the one percent club and they will create all the jobs we need!!!!! oh yea and killing obamacare will get you a job!"

The platitudes won't work these days.


Your vastly oversimplified claims aside, the polls say otherwise. As do the midterms back in November, when the Dems got utterly slaughtered.
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