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Which Candidate Do You Support?

Ted Cruz
20
3%
Marco Rubio
65
11%
Rand Paul
98
17%
Ben Carson
53
9%
Carly Fiorina
18
3%
Jeb Bush
31
5%
Chris Christie
9
2%
John Kasich
42
7%
Donald Trump
151
26%
Someone else
92
16%
 
Total votes : 579

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Postby Marylandonia » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:55 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:"Several polls have been conducted on the demographics of the movement. Though the various polls sometimes turn up slightly different results, they tend to show that Tea Party supporters tend more likely than Americans overall to be white, male, married, older than 45, regularly attending religious services, conservative, and to be more wealthy and have more education."


I have found that to be my actual experience, they are much as P-S has pointed out above. More wealthy and more educated than what though. They are seem a bit above the mean income as a group in my experiences and not really all that more educated than most, but a few have been. What I notice the most about these guys is they are mostly retired, very unhappy about what they call "cultural changes" and are constantly complaining to anyone that will listen, that is how they bond. I doubt they are ever satisfied with anything from my conversations with them. Because I am in my early 60s with gray hair, they assume I am one of them when crossing paths in public and will just come up to me and start bitching about anything,and everything, usually starting with Obama, then the laziness of young people and next how everything has gone to hell. About then I tell them I voted for Obama twice and they take a few steps back and give me the evil eye, make a smart ass remark and get away before I can respond. My daughter loves when this happens. She says they look so shocked and lost when you tell them you voted for the President, LOL. I liked the old people that were around when I was a kid. They had less, but were far more happy. Hmm. There is a moral there.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:44 pm


The thing is, he has the lowest approval rating of any Louisiana Governor in history. His own party hates him in the state capital. He would lose this state easily, so why is he running for president? EVERYONE in Louisiana knew from the get go half way through his first term that he was wanting to run for president, and everyone thought he was an idiot.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:54 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:

The thing is, he has the lowest approval rating of any Louisiana Governor in history. His own party hates him in the state capital. He would lose this state easily, so why is he running for president? EVERYONE in Louisiana knew from the get go half way through his first term that he was wanting to run for president, and everyone thought he was an idiot.


He's under the delusion that now that he's burnt his bridges stateside to get his name in the national papers, it's time to cash in on all of that publicity.

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Postby Patridam » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:03 am

Shazbotdom wrote:

The thing is, he has the lowest approval rating of any Louisiana Governor in history. His own party hates him in the state capital. He would lose this state easily, so why is he running for president? EVERYONE in Louisiana knew from the get go half way through his first term that he was wanting to run for president, and everyone thought he was an idiot.


A failed attempt at the presidency is just the thing to top off his career?
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Postby Marylandonia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:53 am

Jindal? Another Republican running for a show on Fox News. BFD.

Hurrah! SCOTUS votes 6-3 to uphold the ACA once again. Thank you Chief Justice Roberts (of Maryland) and Anthony Kennedy for joining the four liberal members of the court in doing the right thing.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:12 am

Bobby Jindal is so white he asks Indians if they speak Hindu.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:05 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Bobby Jindal is so white he asks Indians if they speak Hindu.

is that actually true? It doesn't sound it.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:09 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Bobby Jindal is so white he asks Indians if they speak Hindu.

is that actually true? It doesn't sound it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33272125
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:11 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Bobby Jindal is so white he asks Indians if they speak Hindu.


And this matters.....why?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:21 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Bobby Jindal is so white he asks Indians if they speak Hindu.


And this matters.....why?

It's me snarking at him. No significance beyond a joke.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:32 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
And this matters.....why?

It's me snarking at him. No significance beyond a joke.


Ah! My joke detector needs caffeine :)
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:38 am

Marylandonia wrote:Jindal? Another Republican running for a show on Fox News. BFD.

Hurrah! SCOTUS votes 6-3 to uphold the ACA once again. Thank you Chief Justice Roberts (of Maryland) and Anthony Kennedy for joining the four liberal members of the court in doing the right thing.

I'll start taking anti-ACA people seriously on healthcare once they offer a plan to fix it.
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Postby Castille de Italia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:51 am

Diopolis wrote:
Marylandonia wrote:Jindal? Another Republican running for a show on Fox News. BFD.

Hurrah! SCOTUS votes 6-3 to uphold the ACA once again. Thank you Chief Justice Roberts (of Maryland) and Anthony Kennedy for joining the four liberal members of the court in doing the right thing.

I'll start taking anti-ACA people seriously on healthcare once they offer a plan to fix it.

Okay, I'll start.

Norway.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:53 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I'll start taking anti-ACA people seriously on healthcare once they offer a plan to fix it.

Okay, I'll start.

Norway.

Yes, but how are we going to get the Norwegians to pay for American healthcare?
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:55 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I'll start taking anti-ACA people seriously on healthcare once they offer a plan to fix it.

Okay, I'll start.

Norway.


....

not even bobby Jindal wants to invade Norway.
whatever

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Postby Castille de Italia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:09 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:Okay, I'll start.

Norway.

Yes, but how are we going to get the Norwegians to pay for American healthcare?

Intimidation. Fear. Threats. Starve the Norwegians into submission.

It's so easy a North Korean could do it. I mean, they have been for the past fifty years or so. Except on their own people.
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Postby Marylandonia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:11 pm

Castille de Italia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I'll start taking anti-ACA people seriously on healthcare once they offer a plan to fix it.

Okay, I'll start.

Norway.

But Norway may have another country picking up a lot of the tab for their national security and some of their real defense costs. Oh, wait, it just might be the US. Those clever Norwegians! The Norwegians spend 1.5% or $6.4 billion of their GDP (2010 figures) for defense. The US is 4.8% or $698.3 billion in 2010. But in 1988, Norway spent 2.9% and the US was at 5.7% then. Source for figures: The Guardian.
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Postby Castille de Italia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:16 pm

Marylandonia wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:Okay, I'll start.

Norway.

But Norway may have another country picking up a lot of the tab for their national security and some of their real defense costs. Oh, wait, it just might be the US. Those clever Norwegians! The Norwegians spend 1.5% or $6.4 billion of their GDP (2010 figures) for defense. The US is 4.8% or $698.3 billion in 2010. But in 1988, Norway spent 2.9% and the US was at 5.7% then. Source for figures: The Guardian.

I meant as in model the U.S. healthcare system after the Norwegian system. This has nothing to do with Norway's defense expenditure.
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Postby Marylandonia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:29 pm

Castille de Italia wrote:
Marylandonia wrote:But Norway may have another country picking up a lot of the tab for their national security and some of their real defense costs. Oh, wait, it just might be the US. Those clever Norwegians! The Norwegians spend 1.5% or $6.4 billion of their GDP (2010 figures) for defense. The US is 4.8% or $698.3 billion in 2010. But in 1988, Norway spent 2.9% and the US was at 5.7% then. Source for figures: The Guardian.

I meant as in model the U.S. healthcare system after the Norwegian system. This has nothing to do with Norway's defense expenditure.


As I am of Norwegian descent, I am quite proud of how they run their nation, in many aspects. So, if that is what you meant, yeah, let's do it ASAP!

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Castille de Italia wrote:Okay, I'll start.

Norway.

Yes, but how are we going to get the Norwegians to pay for American healthcare?

But Norway may have another country picking up a lot of the tab for their national security and some of their real defense costs. Oh, wait, it just might be the US. Those clever Norwegians! The Norwegians spend 1.5% or $6.4 billion of their GDP (2010 figures) for defense. The US is 4.8% or $698.3 billion in 2010. But in 1988, Norway spent 2.9% and the US was at 5.7% then. Source for figures: The Guardian.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:03 pm

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Merizoc wrote:That's not what the source says.


Kelinfort wrote:Did you read the source?


Evidently neither of you did read it. Some choice bits:

Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics


In several other respects, however -- their age, educational background, employment status, and race -- Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large.


Skew right politically, but have typical profile by age, education, and employment

I read the source. Nowhere does it say the Tea Party is racially diverse.

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Postby Nusantao » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:05 pm

Why is Donald Trump not on this list? I support Donald Trump. I want to see Trump vs Biden in 2016.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:06 pm

Nusantao wrote:Why is Donald Trump not on this list? I support Donald Trump. I want to see Trump vs Biden in 2016.


Two reasons.

1) The list was created long before Trump stepped up, but more importantly:

2) Trump is an assclown.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:07 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:is that actually true? It doesn't sound it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33272125

:rofl:

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Postby Steamtopia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:08 pm

Nusantao wrote:Why is Donald Trump not on this list? I support Donald Trump. I want to see Trump vs Biden in 2016.

Donald Trump is a joke, that's why.
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Postby Nusantao » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:08 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:Trump is an assclown.


Who better to represent the Republican party?

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