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Which Candidate Do You Support?

Ted Cruz
20
3%
Marco Rubio
65
11%
Rand Paul
98
17%
Ben Carson
53
9%
Carly Fiorina
18
3%
Jeb Bush
31
5%
Chris Christie
9
2%
John Kasich
42
7%
Donald Trump
151
26%
Someone else
92
16%
 
Total votes : 579

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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:28 pm

Geilinor wrote:1.) Japan mostly restricts its protectionism to agriculture and China is far less protectionist than it used to be.


China still overwhelmingly practices its currency manipulation, and you need to look up what Japan does on things concerning automobiles for just one example. I'll grant you the Japanese were a lot worse back in the 80s than today, but the point remains.

2.) No developed economy has Hoover-level tariffs.


Which I am not advocating, nor apparently is Rick Santorum. Some protectionism does not mean we're bring back Smoot-Hawley.

3.) A reduction in the benefits of international trade would be an absolute disaster.


Yes, but I hardly expect some protectionism to make the sky fall.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:44 pm

Marylandonia wrote:
Steamtopia wrote:Most of them don't.


Judging by the number that showed up for him in Iowa, maybe there IS only one person supporting him that has a computer. His campaign song might just be Three Dog Night's One (is the loneliest number)


Maybe there is two. Just sayin.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:46 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Marylandonia wrote:
Judging by the number that showed up for him in Iowa, maybe there IS only one person supporting him that has a computer. His campaign song might just be Three Dog Night's One (is the loneliest number)

Maybe there is two. Just sayin.

True. His wife probably supports him - under the threat of being beaten like God intended, of course.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:55 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New Jerzylvania wrote:Maybe there is two. Just sayin.

True. His wife probably supports him - under the threat of being beaten like God intended, of course.

I take it you have evidence for him being a wife-beater?
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Postby Marylandonia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:58 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New Jerzylvania wrote:Maybe there is two. Just sayin.

True. His wife probably supports him - under the threat of being beaten like God intended, of course.


Wow! And you talk about what to me? Put your analyst on danger money, baby!
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:03 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:True. His wife probably supports him - under the threat of being beaten like God intended, of course.

I take it you have evidence for him being a wife-beater?

*hands Dio small machine with blinking lights*

It's an unpatented Joke Detector, bud. Free, too. The welfare state says "you're welcome," and to please make use of it often.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:04 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I take it you have evidence for him being a wife-beater?

*hands Dio small machine with blinking lights*

It's an unpatented Joke Detector, bud. Free, too. The welfare state says "you're welcome," and to please make use of it often.


You might have to show him how it works.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:05 pm

Marylandonia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:True. His wife probably supports him - under the threat of being beaten like God intended, of course.

Wow! And you talk about what to me? Put your analyst on danger money, baby!

I was really trying hard to figure out what the fuck you just said, but then I realized, I probably don't want to know anyway.
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Postby Marylandonia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:07 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Marylandonia wrote:Wow! And you talk about what to me? Put your analyst on danger money, baby!

I was really trying hard to figure out what the fuck you just said, but then I realized, I probably don't want to know anyway.


I know. Its the truth.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:07 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:*hands Dio small machine with blinking lights*

It's an unpatented Joke Detector, bud. Free, too. The welfare state says "you're welcome," and to please make use of it often.


You might have to show him how it works.

We were going to put a warning label on it, but then figured that if you managed to actually injure yourself with the thing, you probably deserve it.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:10 pm

Marylandonia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I was really trying hard to figure out what the fuck you just said, but then I realized, I probably don't want to know anyway.

I know. Its the truth.

If that pile of nonsensical abstract bastardization of foreign fabricated grammar syntax is true, I'd rather be false.
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Postby Marylandonia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:11 pm

what it means

You aren't quite right. :eyebrow:
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:14 pm

Marylandonia wrote:what it means

..okay then.

So, those Republican presidential candidates though. Nutcases, every one of 'em. But I must question how Trump has any support at all; he's such an asshole, he's so blatantly classist, he even pushes away anti-entitlement ultra-capitalist rural white Southerners.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:14 pm

Marylandonia wrote:You aren't quite right. :eyebrow:

...what do you mean?
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Postby Marylandonia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:15 pm

You are left.
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Postby Castille de Italia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:19 pm

Marylandonia wrote:You are left.

Your nonsensical remarks are derailing the thread. Not only that, but they can be interpreted as ad hominem attacks. I'm no moderator, but I'd take a hint from myself and knock it off.
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Marylandonia wrote:what it means

..okay then.

So, those Republican presidential candidates though. Nutcases, every one of 'em. But I must question how Trump has any support at all; he's such an asshole, he's so blatantly classist, he even pushes away anti-entitlement ultra-capitalist rural white Southerners.

Well, I admire his taste in music. "Rockin' in the Free World" is a great song.

But yeah, I don't think he'll field many votes in the primaries.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:27 pm

Castille de Italia wrote:
Marylandonia wrote:You are left.

Your nonsensical remarks are derailing the thread. Not only that, but they can be interpreted as ad hominem attacks. I'm no moderator, but I'd take a hint from myself and knock it off.
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:..okay then.

So, those Republican presidential candidates though. Nutcases, every one of 'em. But I must question how Trump has any support at all; he's such an asshole, he's so blatantly classist, he even pushes away anti-entitlement ultra-capitalist rural white Southerners.

Well, I admire his taste in music. "Rockin' in the Free World" is a great song.

But yeah, I don't think he'll field many votes in the primaries.


I think there is a major fishing expedition happening here. :meh:

As far as Sanders getting many votes, it depends on which state. He'll do very well in New England, but no so great elsewhere except the west coast. He may even win a couple states, but that's about it.
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Postby United Prefectures of Appia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:31 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:So, those Republican presidential candidates though. Nutcases, every one of 'em. But I must question how Trump has any support at all; he's such an asshole, he's so blatantly classist, he even pushes away anti-entitlement ultra-capitalist rural white Southerners.

Pfft, Trump never had any intentions to run for president to begin with. It's just nothing more than to hype up the value assets of his name brand, nothing more. He's done it before by trying to rile up the birthers, but it ended up backfiring him and was the only reason he dropped out of the race.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:33 pm

Marylandonia wrote:You are left.

...yeah?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:33 pm

United Prefectures of Appia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:So, those Republican presidential candidates though. Nutcases, every one of 'em. But I must question how Trump has any support at all; he's such an asshole, he's so blatantly classist, he even pushes away anti-entitlement ultra-capitalist rural white Southerners.

Pfft, Trump never had any intentions to run for president to begin with. It's just nothing more than to hype up the value assets of his name brand, nothing more. He's done it before by trying to rile up the birthers, but it ended up backfiring him and was the only reason he dropped out of the race.

Well, for the more reasonable among us, he's basically only making more and more a fool of himself.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:35 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
United Prefectures of Appia wrote:Pfft, Trump never had any intentions to run for president to begin with. It's just nothing more than to hype up the value assets of his name brand, nothing more. He's done it before by trying to rile up the birthers, but it ended up backfiring him and was the only reason he dropped out of the race.

Well, for the more reasonable among us, he's basically only making more and more a fool of himself.

Trump has been an entertainer ever since he got himself on TV. He's so rich and set for life that he doesn't need to do anything.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:36 pm

Geilinor wrote:Trump has been an entertainer ever since he got himself on TV.

Not a particularly good one, though. Like, my reaction to the man isn't so much "hahaha, how amusing!" as it is "why do people like this exist."
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:36 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Marylandonia wrote:You are left.

...yeah?


Why don't the two of you go TGing or something?
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:36 pm

Castille de Italia wrote:
Marylandonia wrote:You are left.

Your nonsensical remarks are derailing the thread. Not only that, but they can be interpreted as ad hominem attacks. I'm no moderator, but I'd take a hint from myself and knock it off.
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:..okay then.

So, those Republican presidential candidates though. Nutcases, every one of 'em. But I must question how Trump has any support at all; he's such an asshole, he's so blatantly classist, he even pushes away anti-entitlement ultra-capitalist rural white Southerners.

Well, I admire his taste in music. "Rockin' in the Free World" is a great song.

But yeah, I don't think he'll field many votes in the primaries.

Donald Trump was born in 1946. His taste in music was probably formed in the 1960s. That song was more than likely picked by his staff, some of whom are undoubtedly 40 years younger than he is.
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Postby United Prefectures of Appia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:40 pm

Trump is nothing more than an assclown. The debacle from the stunt he pulled in the last election cycle stuck with him ever since. His original intent was to make people bring up the birther issues and as a result, it would give him spotlight and raise the value of his name brand. However it got outta hand with the ridiculous circus over that nonsensical debate. And because of it, people no longer saw the name to symbolize rich and prosperity, but instead to mean jackass and a biggest joker in the world. His birther flame bit him in the sorry ass as his name became devalued.
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