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by Zurkerx » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:18 pm
Arlenton wrote:Now Trump's threatening a third party run because other Republicans are calling out his bullshit. My God, this guy's a pain...

by Northern Davincia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:19 pm
Arlenton wrote:Now Trump's threatening a third party run because other Republicans are calling out his bullshit. My God, this guy's a pain...
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by Exelia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:21 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Arlenton wrote:Now Trump's threatening a third party run because other Republicans are calling out his bullshit. My God, this guy's a pain...
It's gotten to the point where I can no longer vote for him in the unlikely scenario that he becomes the nominee.
If 2016 becomes Trump vs. Clinton, then there is no lesser evil to choose from.

by Arlenton » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:25 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Arlenton wrote:Now Trump's threatening a third party run because other Republicans are calling out his bullshit. My God, this guy's a pain...
It's gotten to the point where I can no longer vote for him in the unlikely scenario that he becomes the nominee.
If 2016 becomes Trump vs. Clinton, then there is no lesser evil to choose from.

by Exelia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:34 pm

by Dahon » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:41 pm
Exelia wrote:I noticed something. Pretty sure it's groundbreaking.
Hitler had an iconic hairstyle, so much that we cannot differentiate the Hitler stache from him. Trump has an iconic hairstyle, so much so we cannot differentiate the Trump toupee from him.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:44 pm
Arlenton wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:It's gotten to the point where I can no longer vote for him in the unlikely scenario that he becomes the nominee.
If 2016 becomes Trump vs. Clinton, then there is no lesser evil to choose from.
If you're like me, a Republican who dislikes Trump, don't punish down ballot GOP candidates because of Trump's shenanigans. We need every vote we can get in these senate races.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Arlenton » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:49 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Arlenton wrote:If you're like me, a Republican who dislikes Trump, don't punish down ballot GOP candidates because of Trump's shenanigans. We need every vote we can get in these senate races.
No. If people want to vote for a stupid clown let them.
If the Republican party loses votes because of these idiots, then maybe it will be time to reconsider your candidates' rhetoric.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:51 pm
Arlenton wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
No. If people want to vote for a stupid clown let them.
If the Republican party loses votes because of these idiots, then maybe it will be time to reconsider your candidates' rhetoric.
That's just it, we will lose voters because Trump is at the top of the ticket, and that would in turn lose votes for congressional GOP candidates who don't have anything to do with Trump. What I said was to consider these down ballot GOP candidates if you are a Republican who is not going to vote fro Trump. If Trump's the nominee the White House is a guaranteed loss but at least we can hold on to as many House and Senate seats as possible.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Arlenton » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:00 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Arlenton wrote:That's just it, we will lose voters because Trump is at the top of the ticket, and that would in turn lose votes for congressional GOP candidates who don't have anything to do with Trump. What I said was to consider these down ballot GOP candidates if you are a Republican who is not going to vote fro Trump. If Trump's the nominee the White House is a guaranteed loss but at least we can hold on to as many House and Senate seats as possible.
Aren't Congressional votes decided differently from Presidential votes in a general election? Or does the state's electoral college votes go tied into the congressional votes?
PRESIDENT & VICE PRESIDENT
Hillary Clinton/whoever DEMOCRAT O
Donald Trump/whoever REPUBLICAN O
SENATOR
Tammy Duckworth DEMOCRAT O
Mark Kirk (Incumbent) REPUBLICAN O

by Exelia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:07 pm
Arlenton wrote:
You vote for President/VP, Senator, and House Representative at the same time. Since many Republicans don't like Trump they likely will not even consider voting at all, which would harm Republican Mark Kirk, who is an establishment Republican and has nothing to do with Trump. What I am advising for anti-Trump Republicans is to consider the down ballot GOP candidates, such as Mark Kirk, and to go vote for them.

by Arlenton » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:08 pm
Exelia wrote:Arlenton wrote:
You vote for President/VP, Senator, and House Representative at the same time. Since many Republicans don't like Trump they likely will not even consider voting at all, which would harm Republican Mark Kirk, who is an establishment Republican and has nothing to do with Trump. What I am advising for anti-Trump Republicans is to consider the down ballot GOP candidates, such as Mark Kirk, and to go vote for them.
That said though, don't vote for Mark Kirk.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:10 pm
Arlenton wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
Aren't Congressional votes decided differently from Presidential votes in a general election? Or does the state's electoral college votes go tied into the congressional votes?
Generally speaking, a ballot is like this. I'll show mine.PRESIDENT & VICE PRESIDENT
Hillary Clinton/whoever DEMOCRAT O
Donald Trump/whoever REPUBLICAN O
SENATOR
Tammy Duckworth DEMOCRAT O
Mark Kirk (Incumbent) REPUBLICAN O
You vote for President/VP, Senator, and House Representative at the same time. Since many Republicans don't like Trump they likely will not even consider voting at all, which would harm Republican Mark Kirk, who is an establishment Republican and has nothing to do with Trump. What I am advising for anti-Trump Republicans is to consider the down ballot GOP candidates, such as Mark Kirk, and to go vote for them.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Northern Davincia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:16 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Arlenton wrote:Generally speaking, a ballot is like this. I'll show mine.PRESIDENT & VICE PRESIDENT
Hillary Clinton/whoever DEMOCRAT O
Donald Trump/whoever REPUBLICAN O
SENATOR
Tammy Duckworth DEMOCRAT O
Mark Kirk (Incumbent) REPUBLICAN O
You vote for President/VP, Senator, and House Representative at the same time. Since many Republicans don't like Trump they likely will not even consider voting at all, which would harm Republican Mark Kirk, who is an establishment Republican and has nothing to do with Trump. What I am advising for anti-Trump Republicans is to consider the down ballot GOP candidates, such as Mark Kirk, and to go vote for them.
I'll check my congressmen and senator's platforms and vote for them if their agendas are sound. Perhaps in the lower chambers there are some sane Republican candidates I can vote on.
Honestly, I wish I could vote Republican, but with the erratic policies of Trump and every other candidate going down the hole with him for votes makes me increasingly skeptical there are any candidates that are not trying to out-trump the Donald.
EDIT: Apparently Texas Congressional District 33 is uncontested so far with Marc Veasey being our representative.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by Exelia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:17 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'll check my congressmen and senator's platforms and vote for them if their agendas are sound. Perhaps in the lower chambers there are some sane Republican candidates I can vote on.
Honestly, I wish I could vote Republican, but with the erratic policies of Trump and every other candidate going down the hole with him for votes makes me increasingly skeptical there are any candidates that are not trying to out-trump the Donald.
EDIT: Apparently Texas Congressional District 33 is uncontested so far with Marc Veasey being our representative.
A very large number of candidates (Pataki, Bush, Kasich, Graham, Rubio, etc.) are lashing against Trump for his policies and blatant bigotry. The GOP hasn't begun goose-stepping just yet.

by Arlenton » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:19 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Arlenton wrote:Generally speaking, a ballot is like this. I'll show mine.PRESIDENT & VICE PRESIDENT
Hillary Clinton/whoever DEMOCRAT O
Donald Trump/whoever REPUBLICAN O
SENATOR
Tammy Duckworth DEMOCRAT O
Mark Kirk (Incumbent) REPUBLICAN O
You vote for President/VP, Senator, and House Representative at the same time. Since many Republicans don't like Trump they likely will not even consider voting at all, which would harm Republican Mark Kirk, who is an establishment Republican and has nothing to do with Trump. What I am advising for anti-Trump Republicans is to consider the down ballot GOP candidates, such as Mark Kirk, and to go vote for them.
I'll check my congressmen and senator's platforms and vote for them if their agendas are sound. Perhaps in the lower chambers there are some sane Republican candidates I can vote on.
Honestly, I wish I could vote Republican, but with the erratic policies of Trump and every other candidate going down the hole with him for votes makes me increasingly skeptical there are any candidates that are not trying to out-trump the Donald.

by Valaran » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:21 pm
Arlenton wrote:If you wan't to vote for a Republican, I would suggest my preferred Presidential candidate, who, has called out Trump many times and unfortunately suffered for it, along with Kasich or Christie.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

by Northern Davincia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:22 pm
Exelia wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:A very large number of candidates (Pataki, Bush, Kasich, Graham, Rubio, etc.) are lashing against Trump for his policies and blatant bigotry. The GOP hasn't begun goose-stepping just yet.
They have, however, proven a third of their party membership would be willing to support fascism when the chips are on the table.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by Lost heros » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:24 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Exelia wrote:They have, however, proven a third of their party membership would be willing to support fascism when the chips are on the table.
Additionally a third of Democrats are willing to support socialism if given the opportunity.
2/3 of both parties choose to remain moderate per their established platform.

by Conserative Morality » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:25 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Additionally a third of Democrats are willing to support socialism if given the opportunity.
2/3 of both parties choose to remain moderate per their established platform.

by Valaran » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:25 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Exelia wrote:They have, however, proven a third of their party membership would be willing to support fascism when the chips are on the table.
Additionally a third of Democrats are willing to support socialism if given the opportunity.
2/3 of both parties choose to remain moderate per their established platform.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
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