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Which Candidate Do You Support?

Ted Cruz
20
3%
Marco Rubio
65
11%
Rand Paul
98
17%
Ben Carson
53
9%
Carly Fiorina
18
3%
Jeb Bush
31
5%
Chris Christie
9
2%
John Kasich
42
7%
Donald Trump
151
26%
Someone else
92
16%
 
Total votes : 579

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Postby Geilinor » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:12 pm

Romalae wrote:So, who's next to drop out of the race? Jindal? Pataki? Gilmore? Santorum? Graham?

I'm not sure who it will be, but probably one of the five mentioned above. Perhaps it'll be whomever has the poorest showing in the next undercard debate. It'll feel mentally relieving to clear out some of those nobodies from the gigantic list that is the Republican hopefuls.

I'd like to see Pataki stay just for my sanity in watching the debates.
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:19 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Romalae wrote:So, who's next to drop out of the race? Jindal? Pataki? Gilmore? Santorum? Graham?

I'm not sure who it will be, but probably one of the five mentioned above. Perhaps it'll be whomever has the poorest showing in the next undercard debate. It'll feel mentally relieving to clear out some of those nobodies from the gigantic list that is the Republican hopefuls.

I'd like to see Pataki stay just for my sanity in watching the debates.

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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:20 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Romalae wrote:So, who's next to drop out of the race? Jindal? Pataki? Gilmore? Santorum? Graham?

I'm not sure who it will be, but probably one of the five mentioned above. Perhaps it'll be whomever has the poorest showing in the next undercard debate. It'll feel mentally relieving to clear out some of those nobodies from the gigantic list that is the Republican hopefuls.

I'd like to see Pataki stay just for my sanity in watching the debates.

Just imagine if everyone in the loser debate quits, he gets into the main debate and has a strong showing, wins the primaries, and gets the nomination. :p

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Postby Arkinesia » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:04 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Romalae wrote:So, who's next to drop out of the race? Jindal? Pataki? Gilmore? Santorum? Graham?

I'm not sure who it will be, but probably one of the five mentioned above. Perhaps it'll be whomever has the poorest showing in the next undercard debate. It'll feel mentally relieving to clear out some of those nobodies from the gigantic list that is the Republican hopefuls.

I'd like to see Pataki stay just for my sanity in watching the debates.

I considered Pataki and then he started bitching about the illegal immigration "crisis" which is by definition a fiction, because only government can create an illegal immigration crisis.
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:19 pm

Arkinesia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I'd like to see Pataki stay just for my sanity in watching the debates.

I considered Pataki and then he started bitching about the illegal immigration "crisis" which is by definition a fiction, because only government can create an illegal immigration crisis.

You'r comparing a guy who tells you to get off his lawn with several guys who have a twelve foot tall barbed wire electrified fence with a moat on their lawns to keep you out.

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Postby Romalae » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:45 pm

Kelinfort wrote:Just imagine if everyone in the loser debate quits, he gets into the main debate and has a strong showing, wins the primaries, and gets the nomination. :p

Could Pataki even win the primaries? The vast Republican base would denounce him as a "RINO" and he'd have to modify his positions from center-right to just shy of fascism.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:57 pm

Romalae wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Just imagine if everyone in the loser debate quits, he gets into the main debate and has a strong showing, wins the primaries, and gets the nomination. :p

Could Pataki even win the primaries? The vast Republican base would denounce him as a "RINO" and he'd have to modify his positions from center-right to just shy of fascism.

Pataki is very similar to John Kasich, in terms of policy. Both were good governors, and I say this as a New Yorker.
And if I recall, 2016 is Pataki's first year running for president. He is the least likeliest to be nominated in this election cycle, but anything could happen by the next.
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Postby Romalae » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:08 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Romalae wrote:Could Pataki even win the primaries? The vast Republican base would denounce him as a "RINO" and he'd have to modify his positions from center-right to just shy of fascism.

Pataki is very similar to John Kasich, in terms of policy. Both were good governors, and I say this as a New Yorker.
And if I recall, 2016 is Pataki's first year running for president. He is the least likeliest to be nominated in this election cycle, but anything could happen by the next.

To be fair to Pataki, he isn't the least likely to be nominated, that would go to Jim I-didn't-even-make-the-undercard-debate Gilmore.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:36 pm

Romalae wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Pataki is very similar to John Kasich, in terms of policy. Both were good governors, and I say this as a New Yorker.
And if I recall, 2016 is Pataki's first year running for president. He is the least likeliest to be nominated in this election cycle, but anything could happen by the next.

To be fair to Pataki, he isn't the least likely to be nominated, that would go to Jim I-didn't-even-make-the-undercard-debate Gilmore.

That or Bobby "the oil companies are the father of my love child" Jindal.
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Postby Marylandonia » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:36 pm

Romalae wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Just imagine if everyone in the loser debate quits, he gets into the main debate and has a strong showing, wins the primaries, and gets the nomination. :p

Could Pataki even win the primaries? The vast Republican base would denounce him as a "RINO" and he'd have to modify his positions from center-right to just shy of fascism.


And they call Rubio a RINO... so Pataki has no chance whatsoever.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:38 pm

Marylandonia wrote:
Romalae wrote:Could Pataki even win the primaries? The vast Republican base would denounce him as a "RINO" and he'd have to modify his positions from center-right to just shy of fascism.


And they call Rubio a RINO... so Pataki has no chance whatsoever.

I've never heard anyone call Rubio a RINO once. I read Breitbart, watch Fox News, and make sure my shrine to St. Reagan is protected with my legally-purchased attack helicopter adorned by the American flag. And through all those things, I've never heard Rubio called a RINO.
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Postby Crusader occupied mecca » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:49 pm

Trump and carson are the only ones willing to stand up to islamic bullying. The rest are pc crazed rino wimps until they earn my respect.
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Postby Timsvill » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:56 pm

I like Ben Carson and his idea to make it where it takes only 15 minutes to file your taxes to the government.

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Postby The Ben Boys » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:06 pm

Timsvill wrote:I like Ben Carson and his idea to make it where it takes only 15 minutes to file your taxes to the government.

Honestly, since the tax code in the US is so convoluted with so many special interests, the government would gain substantial revenue off of a plan like that, especially since it gives the IRS and easier job tracking down those who don't pay their taxes. Its telling when there is an entire industry built around dealing with government taxes.


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Postby Egemore » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:07 pm

Timsvill wrote:I like Ben Carson and his idea to make it where it takes only 15 minutes to file your taxes to the government.


We could make filling out your taxes under the current system take 15 minutes as well, one of the reasons why this isn't ever carried out is because of huge opposition from the H&R Block and the like. The government has all of your data and they could calculate your tax return for you (with the option to dispute it and calculate it on your own) but the big tax preparation companies are vehemently opposed to this for obvious reasons.

I don't have a source for this, so I could be wrong. I remember reading an article about it a while ago though.
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Postby Marylandonia » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:32 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Marylandonia wrote:
And they call Rubio a RINO... so Pataki has no chance whatsoever.

I've never heard anyone call Rubio a RINO once. I read Breitbart, watch Fox News, and make sure my shrine to St. Reagan is protected with my legally-purchased attack helicopter adorned by the American flag. And through all those things, I've never heard Rubio called a RINO.

You might need to get out more often. :lol:

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:26 pm

I'm for whoever causes the GOP to implode the fastest. They've done quite enough damage. Once we're rid of them, we have another cabal of corporate-owned fuckers to deal with, but for now, let's deal with the ones who don't even pretend they're trying to hide it.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:23 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:I'm for whoever causes the GOP to implode the fastest. They've done quite enough damage. Once we're rid of them, we have another cabal of corporate-owned fuckers to deal with, but for now, let's deal with the ones who don't even pretend they're trying to hide it.


Hah. Then the corporate money will just infest the next political party.

You can't get rid of us. We own every politician there is.
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Postby Romalae » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:49 pm

Wow, Kasich came out swinging today. Check this out.

"Do you know how crazy this election is? I’ve about had it with these people. I’m sick and tired of listening to this nonsense."

"We've got one candidate [Carson] that says that we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our seniors that we're going to abolish Medicare?"

"We've got one guy [Trump] who says we ought to take 10 or 11 million people and pick them up and take them to the border and scream at them to get out of our country. That's just crazy."

The Republicans would do well to nominate this man.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:58 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:I'm for whoever causes the GOP to implode the fastest. They've done quite enough damage. Once we're rid of them, we have another cabal of corporate-owned fuckers to deal with, but for now, let's deal with the ones who don't even pretend they're trying to hide it.


You know how politicians get elected right? Start with your old buddy Andrew Jackson and work your way up.


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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:17 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:I'm for whoever causes the GOP to implode the fastest. They've done quite enough damage. Once we're rid of them, we have another cabal of corporate-owned fuckers to deal with, but for now, let's deal with the ones who don't even pretend they're trying to hide it.

You know how politicians get elected right? Start with your old buddy Andrew Jackson and work your way up.

I'm not a Democrat. Try again. :roll:
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:33 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hah. Then the corporate money will just infest the next political party.

You can't get rid of us. We own every politician there is.

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or the kind of mustache-twirling villainry college students like to pretend the upper classes have actually manifesting itself.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:40 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:You know how politicians get elected right? Start with your old buddy Andrew Jackson and work your way up.

I'm not a Democrat. Try again. :roll:


Considering that only the Republicans, Democrats, Federalist, and Whigs have actually held presidential office, it's a good guess. Unless you're a proto-communist or a crypto-slaver you probably aren't the last two.


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Postby Palakistan » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:46 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hah. Then the corporate money will just infest the next political party.

You can't get rid of us. We own every politician there is.

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or the kind of mustache-twirling villainry college students like to pretend the upper classes have actually manifesting itself.

Lol
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Postby Idzequitch » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:18 am

These so called RINO's are really the GOP's best chance of staying relevant. I'm not against certain traditional values, but much of the GOP is pushing further rightward than the USA has ever been before. They aren't conservatives. They're right-wing liberals. Fifty years from now, these guys are going to be viewed in the same light as people who favored slavery. They were ultimately wrong, and simply slowed the USA's progress as a nation. I would argue that these RINO's are the ones who stand for what the Republican party should be about.
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