Air Force vet arrested for trying to stop flag desecration

[Ifreann]

And you'd get arrested for assault. Well, except for the detail that you'd do no such thing.... Playing the ITG impresses no-one.

I'm not an internet tough guy. If anyone here is guilty of being an internet tough guy, its you. All I'm guilty of is expressing my opinion.

Claiming that you would beat the shit out of anyone you saw trying to desecrate the American flag very much makes you seem like you want to look tough on the internet, regardless of whether you would actually do that.

[Storica]

Who give a flying about cloth?
It isnt a symbolic representation of a nation its cloth.

[Dyakovo]

Whoever it was, it wasn't Manhart.

But, whoever it was, they almost certainly weren't there. Only the flag's rightful owner had any priority property right to the flag over Manhart.

This is a question of law, not ideology. Manhart had the same right to the flag as the unidentified protesters. So she had as much right to pick it up as they had to deface it.

The protesters were the rightful owners of the flag.

[Scomagia]

No it isn't. Are you intentionally not reading people's posts?

A law that is ruled unconstitutional is null and void.

I have a rigid mind.

And a fondness for lying, apparently.

[The Black Forrest]

And you'd get arrested for assault. Well, except for the detail that you'd do no such thing.... Playing the ITG impresses no-one.

I'm not an internet tough guy. If anyone here is guilty of being an internet tough guy, its you. All I'm guilty of is expressing my opinion.

Talking of physical violence on the Net........it's the method on an ITG.....

[-The West Coast-]

Because flag is something more than just a piece of cloth. It represents the country and it's values, history, people etc.

Those who would make flag desecration illegal show far less respect for the values that flag represents than these protestors ever could. This vet in this news article is worse than the protestors.

That veteran is a patriot. Those who would destroy our greatest symbol are disturbed and of low moral character. She should be lauded for her actions; she did her duty to her country even after she took off the uniform.

[Wisconsin9]

And you'd get arrested for assault. Well, except for the detail that you'd do no such thing.... Playing the ITG impresses no-one.

I'm not an internet tough guy. If anyone here is guilty of being an internet tough guy, its you. All I'm guilty of is expressing my opinion.

Which is hilariously ironic, considering you're using freedom of expression to justify your statement of what you'd do to restrict the freedom of expression of others.

[Arcanda]

And why is that?

Because flag is something more than just a piece of cloth. It represents the country and it's values, history, people etc.

Its values, like free speech.

[The Black Forrest]

Those who would make flag desecration illegal show far less respect for the values that flag represents than these protestors ever could. This vet in this news article is worse than the protestors.

That veteran is a patriot. Those who would destroy our greatest symbol are disturbed and of low moral character. She should be lauded for her actions; she did her duty to her country even after she took off the uniform.

It's not much of a symbol if it's weakened by actions such as that.

[United Russian Soviet States]

I have a rigid mind.

And a fondness for lying, apparently.

I have no fondness of lying.

[-The West Coast-]

I'm not an internet tough guy. If anyone here is guilty of being an internet tough guy, its you. All I'm guilty of is expressing my opinion.

Claiming that you would beat the shit out of anyone you saw trying to desecrate the American flag very much makes you seem like you want to look tough on the internet, regardless of whether you would actually do that.

I'm not trying to impress anyone, I was simply stating (as an American and a patriot) what I would do to a disgusting protester destroying the symbol of freedom and liberty.

[Dyakovo]

And you'd get arrested for assault. Well, except for the detail that you'd do no such thing.... Playing the ITG impresses no-one.

I'm not an internet tough guy. If anyone here is guilty of being an internet tough guy, its you. All I'm guilty of is expressing my opinion.

"I know you are, but what am I?" is the best you can come up with?

[Ifreann]

Those who would make flag desecration illegal show far less respect for the values that flag represents than these protestors ever could. This vet in this news article is worse than the protestors.

That veteran is a patriot. Those who would destroy our greatest symbol are disturbed and of low moral character.

Even if they are, they have the constitutionally protected right to desecrate the American flag.

She should be lauded for her actions; she did her duty to her country

She did no such thing. She tried to stop people exercising their rights under the constitution she swore to defend and bear true faith and allegiance to.

even after she took off the uniform.

It's funny because the Air Force demoted her for posing nude and in uniform in Playboy.

[Kernen]

Dissent is treason, and should be treated as such.

The law may say the did nothing wrong, but the law is itself wrong.

I hear dissent.

[-The West Coast-]

I'm not an internet tough guy. If anyone here is guilty of being an internet tough guy, its you. All I'm guilty of is expressing my opinion.

Which is hilariously ironic, considering you're using freedom of expression to justify your statement of what you'd do to restrict the freedom of expression of others.

Burning the flag of the United States is an ironic action by those edgy, rag wearing protesters. They burn the very flag that symbolizes the country and the people that defend and support their rights as human beings.

That veteran is a patriot. Those who would destroy our greatest symbol are disturbed and of low moral character. She should be lauded for her actions; she did her duty to her country even after she took off the uniform.

It's not much of a symbol if it's weakened by actions such as that.

The flag is not weakened by Patriots preventing its destruction. It is strengthened by the resolve of those protecting it.

[Dyakovo]

Those who would make flag desecration illegal show far less respect for the values that flag represents than these protestors ever could. This vet in this news article is worse than the protestors.

That veteran is a patriot. Those who would destroy our greatest symbol are disturbed and of low moral character. She should be lauded for her actions; she did her duty to her country even after she took off the uniform.

No, she definitely is not a patriot, seeing as she has no respect for the constitutionally guaranteed rights of others. Also, just a little FYI: both Tekania and myself are veterans.

[Kernen]

Those who would make flag desecration illegal show far less respect for the values that flag represents than these protestors ever could. This vet in this news article is worse than the protestors.

That veteran is a patriot. Those who would destroy our greatest symbol are disturbed and of low moral character. She should be lauded for her actions; she did her duty to her country even after she took off the uniform.

Veterans burn flags all the time. It is how flags are formally retired. There is nothing illegal or immoral about burning flags at all.

[Wisconsin9]

Claiming that you would beat the shit out of anyone you saw trying to desecrate the American flag very much makes you seem like you want to look tough on the internet, regardless of whether you would actually do that.

I'm not trying to impress anyone, I was simply stating (as an American and a patriot) what I would do to a disgusting protester destroying the symbol of freedom and liberty.

I can't believe you actually fucking believe this shit. The doublethink here would make Big Brother shed tears of joy.

[New Skaaneland]

I think it's about the buzz.

[-The West Coast-]

That veteran is a patriot. Those who would destroy our greatest symbol are disturbed and of low moral character. She should be lauded for her actions; she did her duty to her country even after she took off the uniform.

Veterans burn flags all the time. It is how flags are formally retired. There is nothing illegal or immoral about burning flags at all.

You burn a flag respectfully when its decommissioned. There are rules and regulations for properly burning an American flag upon decommission. Burning a flag disrespectfully and reprehensibly is what protesters.

[The Black Forrest]

Claiming that you would beat the shit out of anyone you saw trying to desecrate the American flag very much makes you seem like you want to look tough on the internet, regardless of whether you would actually do that.

I'm not trying to impress anyone, I was simply stating (as an American and a patriot) what I would do to a disgusting protester destroying the symbol of freedom and liberty.

Your ITG powers will not work here.

[New Frenco Empire]

As I said before, anyone threatening violence or calling for the arrest of the protestors are desecrating the flag in worse ways than these kids ever could.

To anyone who falls under that criteria, why do you hate America?

[Ifreann]

Claiming that you would beat the shit out of anyone you saw trying to desecrate the American flag very much makes you seem like you want to look tough on the internet, regardless of whether you would actually do that.

I'm not trying to impress anyone, I was simply stating (as an American and a patriot) what I would do to a disgusting protester destroying the symbol of freedom and liberty.

Again, regardless of whether you would actually do so, you look like you're just trying to act tough. People will probably take you more seriously if you leave out the bit about criminally attacking people and just say that you'd be very angry with them. Maybe buy a thesaurus and find other ways to say "very angry" that you think would fit.

[-The West Coast-]

That veteran is a patriot. Those who would destroy our greatest symbol are disturbed and of low moral character. She should be lauded for her actions; she did her duty to her country even after she took off the uniform.

No, she definitely is not a patriot, seeing as she has no respect for the constitutionally guaranteed rights of others. Also, just a little FYI: both Tekania and myself are veterans.

She has more respect for the country and flag she served than either of you have, apparently. Also, just a little FYI: I'm a currently serving soldier.

I'm not trying to impress anyone, I was simply stating (as an American and a patriot) what I would do to a disgusting protester destroying the symbol of freedom and liberty.

Your ITG powers will not work here.

Then stop responding to my supposed "ITG posts" with your spammy responses that have nothing to do with the topic.

[Kernen]

You burn a flag respectfully when its decommissioned. There are rules and regulations for properly burning an American flag upon decommission. Burning a flag disrespectfully and reprehensibly is what protesters.

Which was not a difference you bothered making.

A flag is a symbol. It is important, but the ideals it stands for superseded the mere cloth. Destroying a symbol is an entirely amoral action in the abstract. Even in context, nothing immoral occurred here, because nobody's rights were violated and nobody harmed.