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Postby Vancouvia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:46 am

What I don't like about the Walking Dead is they never address the fact that there's some really easy ways to "block" the zombies.

Zombies can't jump. They also presumably have a hard time climbing. They can't swim. Also, they can't see, right? So they can't maneuver effectively through a maze. These factors open up a lot of opportunities to shield yourselves from them, but the best way would probably be to utilize the fact they can't jump. All you'd have to do is take out like two steps on some stairs and it would be impossible for them to get up.

If I had a ton of time to defend myself, I'd try to get to an island and then build a sort of fort there, with an elevated wall and a moat, and a drawbridge that required you to jump to get over. Ideally the moat would drain into the sea at high tide so I wouldn't have to worry about clearing them out.

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Postby Ghondra » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:48 am

I'll hide in a local pub until the zombies got me surrounded and then wait for the army. Hey if it worked for Shaun why won't it work for me? :p
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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:03 am

Dominated Earth wrote:We are talking classic zombies that can only transmit their virus through bite aren't we?


No we're talking Walking Dead style where if you die of any cause you rise as a zombie

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:06 am

Paper Sprite wrote:
Dominated Earth wrote:We are talking classic zombies that can only transmit their virus through bite aren't we?


No we're talking Walking Dead style where if you die of any cause you rise as a zombie

People who operate crematoriums will be delighted.
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We have a wall to work upon!
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And our work is never done
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The enemy is poverty
And the wall keeps out the enemy
And we build the wall to keep us free
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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
Paper Sprite wrote:
No we're talking Walking Dead style where if you die of any cause you rise as a zombie

People who operate crematoriums will be delighted.


I imagine up until their gas supply stops working

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Postby Scandavian States » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
Scandavian States wrote:List, in order of priority.

1) Acquire an AR and about 1,000 rounds. Find a suppressor. if possible.
2) Acquire a 1911 in 10mm Auto and about 1,000 rounds. Find a suppressor, if possible.
3) Acquire NVGs and enough batteries to power them for a year.
4) Find a full-size truck.
5) Load said truck with ammo, MREs, camping gear, camo netting, and a battery-powered radio.


Do you have any plan for how you're going to acquire these things?


Steal them, obviously.

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Postby Dominated Earth » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:10 am

Paper Sprite wrote:
Dominated Earth wrote:We are talking classic zombies that can only transmit their virus through bite aren't we?


No we're talking Walking Dead style where if you die of any cause you rise as a zombie


Hmm. I can see how that would be a problem actually. Not enough to cause societal collapse but enough to be a right pain in the ass having to re-kill 85 million people a year.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:12 am

Scandavian States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Do you have any plan for how you're going to acquire these things?


Steal them, obviously.

If there's anyone in your vicinity who owns all those things, and there probably isn't, then wouldn't they just shoot you? Especially if they have silencers for their guns, I don't think those are generally legal.
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We have a wall to work upon!
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And the wall keeps out the enemy
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Postby Dominated Earth » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:16 am

Scandavian States wrote:List, in order of priority.

1) Acquire an AR and about 1,000 rounds. Find a suppressor. if possible.
2) Acquire a 1911 in 10mm Auto and about 1,000 rounds. Find a suppressor, if possible.
3) Acquire NVGs and enough batteries to power them for a year.
4) Find a full-size truck.
5) Load said truck with ammo, MREs, camping gear, camo netting, and a battery-powered radio.
6) Go way out into the boonies and find an elevated position with good sight lines and set up shop.
7) About three months after everything goes dark, conduct a raid to find a good sniper rifle, ammo, and hard armour vest. Also suppressor for said rifle, if possible.
8) Go back out into the boonies and find an isolated house with good sight lines, clear it, and fortify.
9) Maintain a fallback position where the truck is loaded and ready to go, covered with camo netting.
10) Begin a hunter-gatherer lifestyle.
11) Avoid people unless absolutely necessary and never reveal primary or secondary positions.


Don't know why you'd want a suppressor, most firearms are still loud even with them on unless its using .22 rounds.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:19 am

Paper Sprite wrote:
Ifreann wrote:People who operate crematoriums will be delighted.


I imagine up until their gas supply stops working

In which case their gas suppliers will be delighted.


Dominated Earth wrote:
Scandavian States wrote:List, in order of priority.

1) Acquire an AR and about 1,000 rounds. Find a suppressor. if possible.
2) Acquire a 1911 in 10mm Auto and about 1,000 rounds. Find a suppressor, if possible.
3) Acquire NVGs and enough batteries to power them for a year.
4) Find a full-size truck.
5) Load said truck with ammo, MREs, camping gear, camo netting, and a battery-powered radio.
6) Go way out into the boonies and find an elevated position with good sight lines and set up shop.
7) About three months after everything goes dark, conduct a raid to find a good sniper rifle, ammo, and hard armour vest. Also suppressor for said rifle, if possible.
8) Go back out into the boonies and find an isolated house with good sight lines, clear it, and fortify.
9) Maintain a fallback position where the truck is loaded and ready to go, covered with camo netting.
10) Begin a hunter-gatherer lifestyle.
11) Avoid people unless absolutely necessary and never reveal primary or secondary positions.


Don't know why you'd want a suppressor, most firearms are still loud even with them on unless its using .22 rounds.

Because they're cool, duh.
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What do we have that they should want?
We have a wall to work upon!
We have work and they have none
And our work is never done
My children, my children
And the war is never won

The enemy is poverty
And the wall keeps out the enemy
And we build the wall to keep us free
That's why we build the wall
We build the wall to keep us free
We build the wall to keep us free

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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:21 am

Ifreann wrote:In which case their gas suppliers will be delighted.


I don't think zombies can be delighted

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Postby Dominated Earth » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:22 am

Ifreann wrote:
Paper Sprite wrote:
I imagine up until their gas supply stops working

In which case their gas suppliers will be delighted.


Dominated Earth wrote:
Don't know why you'd want a suppressor, most firearms are still loud even with them on unless its using .22 rounds.

Because they're cool, duh.


Fuck why didn't I think of that?

Also to further add to it, most assault rifles require sub-sonic ammunition to use with a suppressor otherwise it won't do anything.
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Postby Scandavian States » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:24 am

Ifreann wrote:If there's anyone in your vicinity who owns all those things, and there probably isn't, then wouldn't they just shoot you? Especially if they have silencers for their guns, I don't think those are generally legal.


You would be mistaken. The only thing you need to own a suppressor is to submit the forms to the ATF and a background check. The check isn't that stringent, you just can't have been convicted of an offense that would bar you from owning one. Oh, and live in a state where the local laws don't prohibit them.

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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:26 am

I think i'd rather not rely on firearms because of the finite supply of ammunition issue along with the noise they produce. Better to stick to blunt trauma or penetrating trauma with blades, etc really

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Postby Scandavian States » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:27 am

Dominated Earth wrote:Also to further add to it, most assault rifles require sub-sonic ammunition to use with a suppressor otherwise it won't do anything.


Actually, that's incorrect. First of all, you need subsonic ammunition for everything if you want to have extremely quiet operation. However, even with supersonic ammunition a suppressor still quiets the firearm, to the point where one can forego hearing protection and also diffuses the sound so that it's extremely difficult to pinpoint the source of the firing.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:27 am

Paper Sprite wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In which case their gas suppliers will be delighted.


I don't think zombies can be delighted

I don't think they'd be zombies. Just gainfully employed in disposing of zombies.


Scandavian States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If there's anyone in your vicinity who owns all those things, and there probably isn't, then wouldn't they just shoot you? Especially if they have silencers for their guns, I don't think those are generally legal.


You would be mistaken. The only thing you need to own a suppressor is to submit the forms to the ATF and a background check. The check isn't that stringent, you just can't have been convicted of an offense that would bar you from owning one. Oh, and live in a state where the local laws don't prohibit them.

Fair enough. I still think most people who own one would shoot you if you tried to steal it from them.
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What do we have that they should want?
We have a wall to work upon!
We have work and they have none
And our work is never done
My children, my children
And the war is never won

The enemy is poverty
And the wall keeps out the enemy
And we build the wall to keep us free
That's why we build the wall
We build the wall to keep us free
We build the wall to keep us free

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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:28 am

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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
Paper Sprite wrote:
I don't think zombies can be delighted

I don't think they'd be zombies. Just gainfully employed in disposing of zombies.


I doubt there would be much in the way of gainful employment after the fall of society. What would be the point of being paid in currency that's no longer usable. Assuming they've managed difficult task of avoiding turning into a zombie while working.

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Postby Chronodosia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:29 am

Paper Sprite wrote:I think i'd rather not rely on firearms because of the finite supply of ammunition issue along with the noise they produce. Better to stick to blunt trauma or penetrating trauma with blades, etc really


Nice idea course you would have to train for that if you don't know how to wield a blade. but that's what the Zombies are for Practice.
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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:31 am

Chronodosia wrote:
Paper Sprite wrote:I think i'd rather not rely on firearms because of the finite supply of ammunition issue along with the noise they produce. Better to stick to blunt trauma or penetrating trauma with blades, etc really


Nice idea course you would have to train for that if you don't know how to wield a blade. but that's what the Zombies are for Practice.


I'm not sure I know of anyone that doesn't know how to wield a blade.

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Postby Chronodosia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:32 am

Paper Sprite wrote:
Chronodosia wrote:
Nice idea course you would have to train for that if you don't know how to wield a blade. but that's what the Zombies are for Practice.


I'm not sure I know of anyone that doesn't know how to wield a blade.


I meant like a Katana or a Bastard Sword
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:33 am

Merizoc wrote:Move to Atlantis.

Good luck getting through immigration.


Paper Sprite wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't think they'd be zombies. Just gainfully employed in disposing of zombies.


I doubt there would be much in the way of gainful employment after the fall of society. What would be the point of being paid in currency that's no longer usable. Assuming they've managed difficult task of avoiding turning into a zombie while working.

Society wouldn't fall, though.


Paper Sprite wrote:
Chronodosia wrote:
Nice idea course you would have to train for that if you don't know how to wield a blade. but that's what the Zombies are for Practice.


I'm not sure I know of anyone that doesn't know how to wield a blade.

Most people don't know how to "wield a blade", that being a fairly useless skill people would only learn for recreational purposes.
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What do we have that they should want?
We have a wall to work upon!
We have work and they have none
And our work is never done
My children, my children
And the war is never won

The enemy is poverty
And the wall keeps out the enemy
And we build the wall to keep us free
That's why we build the wall
We build the wall to keep us free
We build the wall to keep us free

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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:34 am

Chronodosia wrote:
Paper Sprite wrote:
I'm not sure I know of anyone that doesn't know how to wield a blade.


I meant like a Katana or a Bastard Sword


I'm thinking more along the lines of kitchen knives and pointy metal bars. Katanas and longswords aren't readily available or practical

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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:35 am

Ifreann wrote:Society wouldn't fall, though.


The Zombies from Walking Dead don't seem to create a society, or at least one as we know it, so I don't think they'll manage to continue society.

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Postby Dominated Earth » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:35 am

Scandavian States wrote:
Dominated Earth wrote:Also to further add to it, most assault rifles require sub-sonic ammunition to use with a suppressor otherwise it won't do anything.


Actually, that's incorrect. First of all, you need subsonic ammunition for everything if you want to have extremely quiet operation. However, even with supersonic ammunition a suppressor still quiets the firearm, to the point where one can forego hearing protection and also diffuses the sound so that it's extremely difficult to pinpoint the source of the firing.


Yeah I just looked it up lol. Still, I'd probably avoid trying to steal your neighbors gun it's likely that they'll shoot you. We are talking zombies that use sound and smell and are blind as well as thick as a plank so explosives would be something useful.
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