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Postby Plzen » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:39 am

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Why would we not stock up with supplies first? Most of us aren't that daft.


I suppose though if you become surrounded by zombies and have limited supplies inside it doesn't really matter how much you've stocked up. You're going to have to try and get out eventually

I hope you're good with subterranean construction and limited pyrotechnics. You'll need it to break out of a good sized zombie siege without supplies.

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:41 am

Paper Sprite wrote:... have limited supplies inside it doesn't really matter how much you've stocked up.


What? That makes no sense.
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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:42 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:
Paper Sprite wrote:... have limited supplies inside it doesn't really matter how much you've stocked up.


What? That makes no sense.


Zombies that can endure for years upon years. You have limited space. You're going to be able to stock it to a finite point constrained by space, time, and resource availability.

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Postby Plzen » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:42 am

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Well for your education here's the simple version :

Step 1 : Locate pointy / sharp end of knife
Step 2 : Stick pointy / sharp end in target


As a competitive fencer and part-time fencing instructor, I can tell you it's not anywhere near that easy. Hitting on target is hard enough to do when your opponent is advancing on a narrow designated strip and mirroring your posture. Keep in mind, that's most likely not a killing blow, it's a gentle tap to the general chest area.
Also, unless you've spent a lot of time learning your striking range, and learning how to lunge quickly, you expose yourself with every attack. This isn't too much of a problem with a human opponent who obeys right-of-way and has human reflexes to hostility, but against a zombie who has no such reflexes, and who desires only to kill you by any means possible, sword and knife attacks are, at best, a stalling tactic, and at worst, a kamikaze attack. Also God forbid you come up against a group of more than one, from different angles.

For about the same amount of effort, I'd go with a good baseball bat, or an axe. While they may not be perfect for killing opponents, they give a much better chance of getting out alive, especially if you're up against a group.

For me personally, our private lane is fairly easily defensible, and we all have generators and stockpiles. Failing that, I have a friend who owns a private jet at the local airport who owes me a favor. Failing that, my grandparents have a secluded and easily isolated place up in the mountains, which is just within driving range with the extra cans of petrol kept in the garage for the aforementioned generators.

I don't thin there is a single player in this entire thread that's in a worse situation than mine. Everyone has n ace up their sleeve...

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Postby Scandinavian Nations » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:44 am

Plzen wrote:I demand link.

Just takes looking up "mythbusters zombie episode": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBuster ... Special.22

Though wait, a single 2x4 didn't hold up. But the barn door did with more wood applied.
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Postby Plzen » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:50 am

Scandinavian Nations wrote:
Plzen wrote:I demand link.

Just takes looking up "mythbusters zombie episode": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBuster ... Special.22

Though wait, a single 2x4 didn't hold up. But the barn door did with more wood applied.

Strength in numbers! I guess logically, any door that's harder to break than a zombie is to crush can't be broken through.

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Postby Mefpan » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:57 am

United Russian Soviet States wrote:Zombies don't exist.

"No, frag your silly hypotheticals!"

I know that feeling, but silly hypotheticals can be wrecked in funnier ways.
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Postby Autrael » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:58 am

Either build a moat around my town, or move to the Bolærne islands.
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Postby Seraven » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:59 am

Paper Sprite wrote:It's a classic discussion but fun so.....How do you plan to survive the coming zombie apocalypse. For the purpose of this discussion we're talking zombies from the Walking Dead world.

I live relatively close to the coast so the obvious move is to grab a few long blades, a few sturdy poles to push back any zombies, and as much food as I can stick into a small bag. No hanging around, grab it and be gone within 10-15 minutes. Cycle rather than car to the harbour and hop on the nearest boat. I'm going to have to gamble that i'll get there first and cast off before overwhelmed by refugees. Then head north along the Scottish coast ideally with a goal of coming right around to Orkney. Plenty of crofting types who will be relatively self sufficient and with enough isolation to avoid swarms.


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Postby Plzen » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:00 am

Autrael wrote:Either build a moat around my town, or move to the Bolærne islands.

Moat around your town?

Easier said than done. Digging is tough.

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Postby Seraven » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:01 am

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Autrael wrote:Either build a moat around my town, or move to the Bolærne islands.

Moat around your town?

Easier said than done. Digging is tough.


And you need manpower and resources.
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An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P

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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:03 am

Seraven wrote:
Paper Sprite wrote:It's a classic discussion but fun so.....How do you plan to survive the coming zombie apocalypse. For the purpose of this discussion we're talking zombies from the Walking Dead world.

I live relatively close to the coast so the obvious move is to grab a few long blades, a few sturdy poles to push back any zombies, and as much food as I can stick into a small bag. No hanging around, grab it and be gone within 10-15 minutes. Cycle rather than car to the harbour and hop on the nearest boat. I'm going to have to gamble that i'll get there first and cast off before overwhelmed by refugees. Then head north along the Scottish coast ideally with a goal of coming right around to Orkney. Plenty of crofting types who will be relatively self sufficient and with enough isolation to avoid swarms.


Living in a mall?


I remember watching a documentary where that didn't work out too well

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Postby Seraven » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:05 am

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Living in a mall?


I remember watching a documentary where that didn't work out too well


A temporary place before going to look for permanent ones. Or, we could make it more permanent.
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Postby Scandinavian Nations » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:06 am

Plzen wrote:Strength in numbers! I guess logically, any door that's harder to break than a zombie is to crush can't be broken through.

On a totally serious note, the TWD's premise is that zombies aren't all that huge a deal. It's that the Zombie Apocalypse wipes out almost everyone who isn't an asshole and it's then the very human assholes that become the real problem.

So if it were happening totally srs for real and pinching was no help, my irl plan for something of the kind would be to try and return to active duty, as there's sure to be some warning and a ramp-up of response forces, then deal with it as it happens. Starting out on the front lines is more dangerous in the short term than just finding a remote place to hide out - but better in the long term. I figure that, even if it ends up a proper apocalypse and we get cut off, any group will have to kill a lot of people to survive, and a measure of legitimacy, not to mention experience, is going to be great help in holding it together.
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Postby Seraven » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:08 am

United Russian Soviet States wrote:Zombies don't exist.


They are.

Humans are zombies.
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Postby Caribica » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:09 am

United Russian Soviet States wrote:Zombies don't exist.

Yet, which is why you should always be prepared.

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Postby Autrael » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:39 am

Plzen wrote:
Autrael wrote:Either build a moat around my town, or move to the Bolærne islands.

Moat around your town?

Easier said than done. Digging is tough.

Plus there is rather tough terrain. This is Norway, after all. But if I can convince Sørumsand's 4000 residents to work together, even if they only moat a road or two, that should still be doable and enough.

Don't forget my alternate plan of moving to the Bolærne Islands.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:43 am

Paper Sprite wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The premise is Walking Dead zombies.


My thread, my premise

And that's the premise you wrote in your OP.

Posting on the internet doesn't get in the way of doing my job.


Sounds important

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I think you may be mistaking "can make a sandwich" with "can sufficiently destroy a zombie's body before they turn you into a sandwich".


Nope

Human skulls are a little tougher than whatever it is they make TV props from.


When the choice is do nothing and die and try to penetrate skull through a handy opening (anterior base of skull being weak along with the sphenoid or eyes) I think i'd choose not to be eaten

I'm sure you would, but desperately stabbing at someone's face while they try to eat you is hardly "wielding a blade".


You should tell the Saudis or ISIS that

I'm sure they're well aware. After all, they have to hold people down and saw their heads off to get them decapitated. No lopping them off with a single swing of one's cleaver.



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I don't see how "everyone who dies turns into a violent death machine" isn't considered a major threat. I'd be pretty concerned when my grandfather dying in his sleep means I could get killed in the middle of the night.

True.

Once people are aware than anyone who dies will become a zombie I expect we'll learn to adapt. Granddad will lock himself into his room at night, just in case.


L Ron Cupboard wrote:
Why would we not stock up with supplies first? Most of us aren't that daft.

The castles probably have restaurants and gift shops and what have you.


United Russian Soviet States wrote:Zombies don't exist.

That's what the Illuminati want you to think.
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Postby Paper Sprite » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:30 am

Ifreann wrote:And that's the premise you wrote in your OP.


Ah it's the picky semantics guy. Every forum has to have one

I'm sure you would, but desperately stabbing at someone's face while they try to eat you is hardly "wielding a blade".


Hiiiiii Mr Semantics

I'm sure they're well aware. After all, they have to hold people down and saw their heads off to get them decapitated. No lopping them off with a single swing of one's cleaver.


Yup, never happens. Not at all.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:39 am

Paper Sprite wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And that's the premise you wrote in your OP.


Ah it's the picky semantics guy. Every forum has to have one

Don't worry, NSG has several.

I'm sure you would, but desperately stabbing at someone's face while they try to eat you is hardly "wielding a blade".


Hiiiiii Mr Semantics

Hello.

I'm sure they're well aware. After all, they have to hold people down and saw their heads off to get them decapitated. No lopping them off with a single swing of one's cleaver.


Yup, never happens. Not at all.

I'm not saying it never happens. All manner of things happen. I'm saying it's not easy to lop of someone's head.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:24 pm

Caribica wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:Zombies don't exist.

Yet, which is why you should always be prepared.

They will never exist. Science does not allow for that.
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Postby Dominated Earth » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:35 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Caribica wrote:Yet, which is why you should always be prepared.

They will never exists. Science does not allow for that.


Technically, they could exist. But they probably wouldn't last much longer than a week or two before necrosis and environmental factors get the better of them.
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