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Postby Krazniastan » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:28 am

Wallonochia wrote:I'm sure it is, but


Let me put it to you this way, it'd be a 6 month, multi million dollar headache.

Wallonochia wrote:I'm well aware of that, I earned my CAB.


And I thank you for your service.

Wallonochia wrote:Lots of guys I know have similar brakes, just without the juvenile artwork.


And those that don't want it, can get it without the pig, or paint over it. However, some get a laugh out of it. Humor comes in different forms to different people, and they all deal with it differently. For example, an associate of mine has a tattoo of a Tab button on his arm. The joke is that he thinks Iraq was his own personal game of Counterstrike. You may think its juvinile, but its a coping mechanism, and its how he deals with the shit he saw, and did while a gunner on a HMMV in some of the most hostile parts of Iraq without going insane. Its not tasteful, but it helps him cope, and thats the important part.

Wallonochia wrote:Those aren't the ones I'm concerned about pissing off, it's the ones who are at the "I don't particularly care for you but I'm not angry enough to do anything about it yet" stage.


There will always be some on the fence. And somewhere, sometime, something will piss them off enough to reach that stage where violence is the reaction. Doesn't matter if its something like this Bible Code fuss, or perhaps a particularly inspiring sermon from a local Imam, sooner or later those on the fence will jump down onto the side of violence.

Wallonochia wrote:As for what stage comes next it's usually the "I've got several 5.56mm holes in me" stage.


:D See, there's that humor coping mechanism. . . .


Not gonna lie, I'm seriously considering sigging that.
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Postby Krazniastan » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:34 am

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99% of them wouldn't be fighting us, if for no other reason than it's a long, long swim over here. Also, many of them only came after us because we invaded and they were convinced by Al Qaeda and others that the US was initiating another Crusade and that it was the duty of all Muslims to oppose us. For many the US invasion of Iraq was the proverbial straw that broke the camels back.


You are correct, those 99% probably wouldn't be fighting us. But they'd be supporting those that would. Money, training, services, intelligence, electronic warfare, etc.
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Postby Neu Mitanni » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:55 am

Epic.

Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

It also brings Warhammer 40K to mind :lol2:
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Postby Capitalistliberals » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:56 am

Neu Mitanni wrote:Epic.

Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

It also brings Warhammer 40K to mind :lol2:


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Postby Chezovolvia » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:12 pm

Neu Mitanni wrote:Epic.

Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

It also brings Warhammer 40K to mind :lol2:


Aw, do you have a bad case of xenophobia?

Educate yourself about the world, I pray your still a kid and there's still hope.

Just thought I'd let you know that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same God. I love it when my ignorant countrymen hear that one, especially after they say "Damn Allah".
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:15 pm

Neu Mitanni wrote:Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.


And here we see the reason some people think 9/11 was completely deserved.
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Postby Zachtung » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:18 pm

Krazniastan wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Why is it that people jump to the extreme in making their argument, under the assumption that it makes their argument, rather than making them look like idiots?

Has anyone, ever, defending the suicide bombing of innocent civilians as a legitimate expression of culture whilst being serious and/or not a extremist demagogue?


Swing and a miss there.

I was trying to make the point that the enemy already uses Religious texts, markings, symbols, and beliefs on their weapons. They already believe its a Holy War. So why is it when someone on our side does the same thing, and only gets a stink raised after they've been doing it for 20 years in a small, inconspicuous area, and never publicized it?


Just because THEY believe it, doesn't make it into something it's not. Furthermore, not all Muslims see it that way anyway.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:19 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Neu Mitanni wrote:Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.


And here we see the reason some people think 9/11 was completely deserved.


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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:27 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Neu Mitanni wrote:Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.


And here we see the reason some people think 9/11 was completely deserved.


No we don't.

Yeah, we do. And it's the corresponding attitude among the "terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!)" that perpetuates the entire idiotic cycle. NM is no more correct in his attitude, no more virtuous than his targets are in theirs.
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Postby Milks Empire » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:28 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Neu Mitanni wrote:Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

And here we see the reason some people think 9/11 was completely deserved.

No we don't.

Yeah, we do. And it's the corresponding attitude among the "terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!)" that perpetuates the entire idiotic cycle. NM is no more correct in his attitude, no more virtuous than his targets are in theirs.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Farn. It's like I've said before - I can't tell any difference (aside from professed religion) between what Neu Mitanni posts and what Osama bin Laden says.
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Postby Wallonochia » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:31 pm

It looks like they're removing the verses.

Trijicon said it would remove the references from future U.S. military products as well as those already manufactured but not yet shipped and would send 100 modification kits to forces in the field to remove the references already on optical sights in use.

Stephen Bindon, Trijicon’s president and chief executive officer, called the decisions “prudent and appropriate,” but otherwise gave no reason for the change in policy. The company also did not say whether sights for hunting weapons would continue to carry the references and calls to the company were not immediately returned.


http://www.freep.com/article/20100121/NEWS03/100121038/1320/Wixom-firm-to-remove-Bible-verses-from-rifles
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:06 pm

I think we should stop putting any orders in that company...

And, remove them from any weapons that have it, and immediately put a stop to it, for purely strategic reasons, anything that alludes to the current War on Terror being a Modern Crusade is to vehemently be avoided...

Nothing like a justification of an Al-Qaeda claim to rile up any would-be terror supporters, :?
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Postby Krazniastan » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:13 pm

Dammit.

This PC bullshit pisses me off to no end. They're discontinuing 30 years of tradition, and awesomeness because of a few butthurt, PC weenies. . .
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As for what stage comes next it's usually the "I've got several 5.56mm holes in me" stage. - Wallonochia

Americans and guns are like the British with tea. Its cultural. We don't expect you to like it, understand it, or accept it. We do, however, expect you to respect it.

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Postby Alsatian Knights » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:27 pm

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Meoton wrote:I think the bullets should have "Jesus Saves" and ichthus (fish) print on them. I think American Jesus would like his message delivered in an epiphany of blood. His word struck me like thunder and I was saved. I let Jesus into his heart at 400 yards. Blessed are the childress struck by Jesus rounds.

But the bullets have to be baptized (or something like that). How do we gather all the priests needed to do that?

Just do what Stan Smith does drive by with a supersoaker full of holy water.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:28 pm

Krazniastan wrote:Dammit.

This PC bullshit pisses me off to no end. They're discontinuing 30 years of tradition, and awesomeness because of a few butthurt, PC weenies. . .

....or because claiming to be fighting Religious Extremism, while at the same time shooting guns with religious epithets on them might not be the most sound strategic move....Just a thought...

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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:48 pm

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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:50 pm

Neu Mitanni wrote:Epic.

Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

It also brings Warhammer 40K to mind :lol2:

But you claim Jihad is barbaric, right?
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Postby Neu Mitanni » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:20 pm

Chezovolvia wrote:
Neu Mitanni wrote:Epic.

Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

It also brings Warhammer 40K to mind :lol2:


Aw, do you have a bad case of xenophobia?

Educate yourself about the world, I pray your still a kid and there's still hope.


I've probably forgotten more about "the world" than you've ever known. I've traveled extensively, especially in Asia. I've worked in South Korea and done business in Japan. And I'm long past being a "kid". On the other hand, there may still be hope for you ;)

Chezovolvia wrote:Just thought I'd let you know that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same God. I love it when my ignorant countrymen hear that one, especially after they say "Damn Allah".


Just thought I'd let you know that Moslems, by their own words, do not "worship the same God" as Jews, Christians, or Hindus, Buddhists or Amazonian jungle shamans for that matter.

Sura 109: The Disbelievers
Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship,
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
(see http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc ... 9.qmt.html )

So much for "worshipping the same God."

The "Allah" of Islam is no more the One True God of Christianity than Zeus, Re or Odin is. Onomastics don't determine theological identity.
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Postby Helertia » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:22 pm

Neu Mitanni wrote:
Chezovolvia wrote:
Neu Mitanni wrote:Epic.

Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

It also brings Warhammer 40K to mind :lol2:


Aw, do you have a bad case of xenophobia?

Educate yourself about the world, I pray your still a kid and there's still hope.


I've probably forgotten more about "the world" than you've ever known. I've traveled extensively, especially in Asia. I've worked in South Korea and done business in Japan. And I'm long past being a "kid". On the other hand, there may still be hope for you ;)

Chezovolvia wrote:Just thought I'd let you know that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same God. I love it when my ignorant countrymen hear that one, especially after they say "Damn Allah".


Just thought I'd let you know that Moslems, by their own words, do not "worship the same God" as Jews, Christians, or Hindus, Buddhists or Amazonian jungle shamans for that matter.

Sura 109: The Disbelievers
Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship,
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
(see http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc ... 9.qmt.html )

So much for "worshipping the same God."

The "Allah" of Islam is no more the One True God of Christianity than Zeus, Re or Odin is. Onomastics don't determine theological identity.


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Postby Maurepas » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:23 pm

Neu Mitanni wrote:The "Allah" of Islam is no more the One True God of Christianity than Zeus, Re or Odin is. Onomastics don't determine theological identity.

I think a more apt comparison would be Zeus to Jupiter...

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Postby Neu Mitanni » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:26 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Neu Mitanni wrote:Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.


And here we see the reason some people think 9/11 was completely deserved.


:rofl:

And some people believe Elvis is coming back from outer space with a great new diet.

Those who "think 9/11 was completely deserved" will eventually get what they deserve.
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Postby Shepherdton » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:28 pm

think this in Revelation anywhere?

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Postby Neu Mitanni » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:30 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Neu Mitanni wrote:Epic.

Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

It also brings Warhammer 40K to mind :lol2:

But you claim Jihad is barbaric, right?


I don't care whether or not it's "barbaric." I just care about crushing it, once and for all, by whatever means expedient. As should have been done at any time since 636 A.D.
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Postby North Suran » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:30 pm

Neu Mitanni wrote:Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

Does the phrase "Thou shalt not kill" mean anything to you?

Oh, wait. You're one of those faux Christians who is happy to use his faith to justify homophobia and being opposed to abortions, but will quickly dump it whenever it is not conducive to your political viewpoint.

Neu Mitanni wrote:Just thought I'd let you know that Moslems, by their own words, do not "worship the same God" as Jews, Christians, or Hindus, Buddhists or Amazonian jungle shamans for that matter.

Islam recognises Jesus Christ as an important Prophet - it simply does not recognise him as the Son of God, and believes that Muhammad was more important.

They believe in the same God. Hence why Judaism, Islam and Christianity are referred to as the Abrahamic religions.
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Postby North Suran » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:31 pm

Neu Mitanni wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Neu Mitanni wrote:Epic.

Just the thought of flaming lead projectiles blasting their way through terrorists (and haters of Jews and Christians at that!) after emerging from weapons bearing Scriptural cites puts a smile on my lips.

It also brings Warhammer 40K to mind :lol2:

But you claim Jihad is barbaric, right?


I don't care whether or not it's "barbaric." I just care about crushing it, once and for all, by whatever means expedient. As should have been done at any time since 636 A.D.

Because you always complain whenever someone subjects the Crusades to our "modern day morality", yet you see no issue with exporting centuries-old morality into the modern era.
Neu Mitanni wrote:As for NS, his latest statement is grounded in ignorance and contrary to fact, much to the surprise of all NSGers.


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