Christian Discussion Thread V

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Frozen is set in an Norweigan culture setting, and the religion of Norway is Lutheranism. Given the setting, one can assume the characters in Frozen are Lutherans. Oh my gosh, a Protestant animated film! Frozen is anti-Catholic!

(There you go......)

I wouldn't necessarily classify Protestantism as a whole as anti-Catholic. Many of the central tenets are the same, even if there is disagreement in some key areas.

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[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

It may make you anti-Christian. A pro-Christian person defends Christianity.

A pro-Christian person would like to defend Christianity, but Christian reaction on entertainment and pop culture, such as Hollywood films and Disney animated movies are diverse and varied and also the treatment of the said medium.

Some Christians go so far on being fundamentalist "Moral Guardians" like in the prevalent moralism found in several American Protestant churches during the 1980s, where pastors said that you should not play cards for they are the "devil's picture book" and condemned pop music of being Satanist.

Other Christians are quite the opposite around. In fact, I've found an Christian Internet blog focused on Japanese pop culture highlighting the Christian theological and Biblical positive points found in Japanese anime, manga and video games. (-_-)

[Benuty]

I go away for a bit, and come back to find this thread hijacked by a conspiracy theorist?

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

I go away for a bit, and come back to find this thread hijacked by a conspiracy theorist?

Who's that conspiracy theorist?

[Nordengrund]

I wouldn't necessarily classify Protestantism as a whole as anti-Catholic. Many of the central tenets are the same, even if there is disagreement in some key areas.

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I have always assumed Catholicism to be the default religion in any fantasy setting, or at least that world's equivalent of it.

While it is true that Norway tends to be Lutheran, the Frozen setting looks medieval and I think Norway was not Lutheran then.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I go away for a bit, and come back to find this thread hijacked by a conspiracy theorist?

Who's that conspiracy theorist?

nine

fucking

pages

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

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I have always assumed Catholicism to be the default religion in any fantasy setting, or at least that world's equivalent of it.

While it is true that Norway tends to be Lutheran, the Frozen setting looks medieval and I think Norway was not Lutheran then.

Coronation scene: Bishop speaks Swedish, not Latin. (Subtitle spelling looked closer to Swedish than Norwegian.) Technology was 18th Century, uniforms were 19th century. Therefore, the Renaissance has already happened.

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

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I have always assumed Catholicism to be the default religion in any fantasy setting, or at least that world's equivalent of it.

While it is true that Norway tends to be Lutheran, the Frozen setting looks medieval and I think Norway was not Lutheran then.

Frozen is quite clearly set during the 1800's, or maybe the late 1700's at the very earliest.

[Schiltzberg]

Why does Hollywood bash Christianity?

God's not Dead didn't need Hollywood do it's bashing.

Yeah, that was a poorly done movie.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

The Snow Queen is Danish. Denmark is a Lutheran Country. However I'm pretty sure Lutheranism doesn't have any hand in coronations. Pretty sure that's just Catholicism and Anglicanism.

[Nordengrund]

I have always assumed Catholicism to be the default religion in any fantasy setting, or at least that world's equivalent of it.

While it is true that Norway tends to be Lutheran, the Frozen setting looks medieval and I think Norway was not Lutheran then.

Frozen is quite clearly set during the 1800's, or maybe the late 1700's at the very earliest.

Meh. Me and my lack of attention to detail. I stand corrected.

[Angleter]

Nine. Pages.

Are you implying I'm taking on a brick wall?

A brick wall with a bizarre obsession with bloody Frozen.

[Menassa]

God's not Dead didn't need Hollywood do it's bashing.

Yeah, that was a poorly done movie.

We can agree on some things

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
It may make you anti-Christian. A pro-Christian person defends Christianity.
The movie Frozen promotes sin and defiance of God. One of the villains is a devout Christian. The movie Dogma is also quite anti-Christian. It mocks the whole Christian belief system.

Duke of Weaselton calls Elsa a witch which implies that he is RC versus Arendale's Prods, because RCs have had bigger and better inquisitions than us Prods. But it is only implied.

Weaselton is devout??? It is clearly shown that he wants Arendale's wealth.

Or do you mean Hans is devout because he punishes women?

Or do you mean Hans must be RC because he has 12 brothers? Prods having fewer children is recent. My grandma begat 9 children and she was pure-blood Prod for a thousand generations.

Menassa wrote:
I dislike a movie that has been denounced by many and that makes me anti-Christian? Tell me, what is your definition of pro-Christian?

Is that Mel Gibson? 3 hours of a guy being tortured to death. It was boring. They say it was anti-Semitic; it was so boring, I wasn't paying attention.

[United Russian Soviet States]

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
It may make you anti-Christian. A pro-Christian person defends Christianity.
The movie Frozen promotes sin and defiance of God. One of the villains is a devout Christian. The movie Dogma is also quite anti-Christian. It mocks the whole Christian belief system.

Duke of Weaselton calls Elsa a witch which implies that he is RC versus Arendale's Prods, because RCs have had bigger and better inquisitions than us Prods. But it is only implied.

Weaselton is devout??? It is clearly shown that he wants Arendale's wealth.

Or do you mean Hans is devout because he punishes women?

Or do you mean Hans must be RC because he has 12 brothers? Prods having fewer children is recent. My grandma begat 9 children and she was pure-blood Prod for a thousand generations.

Menassa wrote:
I dislike a movie that has been denounced by many and that makes me anti-Christian? Tell me, what is your definition of pro-Christian?

Is that Mel Gibson? 3 hours of a guy being tortured to death. It was boring. They say it was anti-Semitic; it was so boring, I wasn't paying attention.

The Duke is most likely Lutheran. Weselton appears to be based on Prussia and Prussia was Lutheran in the 1800s. The Duke of Weselton is a very devout Christian who acts on his faith. Hans is also most likely a Lutheran since the Southern Isles is based on Denmark and Denmark is Lutheran. Hans may also have a deist view like Napoleon Bonaparte.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

The Duke is most likely Lutheran. Weselton appears to be based on Prussia and Prussia was Lutheran in the 1800s. The Duke of Weselton is a very devout Christian who acts on his faith. Hans is also most likely a Lutheran since the Southern Isles is based on Denmark and Denmark is Lutheran. Hans may also have a deist view like Napoleon Bonaparte.

You are reading into that movie way, way too much.

[Benuty]

The Duke is most likely Lutheran. Weselton appears to be based on Prussia and Prussia was Lutheran in the 1800s. The Duke of Weselton is a very devout Christian who acts on his faith. Hans is also most likely a Lutheran since the Southern Isles is based on Denmark and Denmark is Lutheran. Hans may also have a deist view like Napoleon Bonaparte.

You are reading into that movie way, way too much.

Not to mention the continued threadjacking.

[United Russian Soviet States]

You are reading into that movie way, way too much.

Not to mention the continued threadjacking.

I have to respond to what people ask me.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Not to mention the continued threadjacking.

I have to respond to what people ask me.

Hence why people should listen to me, AND STOP TALKING TO URSS!!!!!!

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

You are reading into that movie way, way too much.

Not to mention the continued threadjacking.

It ain't thread-jack. Does Frozen have a pro or anti Christian message? is a valid topic.

True Love cures a frozen heart is a pro Christian message.

Elsa and Anna are Prods and Good. RC point of view is that RCism is the One True Faith, therefore any story with Prod heroes has an anti-christian message.

Bishop is Prod, but we never see him after the coronation, so we don't know his alignment.

We don't know Hans' and Weaselton's religion, all we know is that they are evil.

IF they had been explicitly RC, then the message would have been anti-RC.

IF they has been explicitly Prod, then the message COULD have been interpreted as anti-Prod. Look at all the political shennanigans that Kings get up to when they don't have a Pope telling them what to do. France, Spain, Bavaria, Austria and Portugal have never EVAH gone to war with each other.

[United Russian Soviet States]

Not to mention the continued threadjacking.

It ain't thread-jack. Does Frozen have a pro or anti Christian message? is a valid topic.

True Love cures a frozen heart is a pro Christian message.

Elsa and Anna are Prods and Good. RC point of view is that RCism is the One True Faith, therefore any story with Prod heroes has an anti-christian message.

Bishop is Prod, but we never see him after the coronation, so we don't know his alignment.

We don't know Hans' and Weaselton's religion, all we know is that they are evil.

IF they had been explicitly RC, then the message would have been anti-RC.

IF they has been explicitly Prod, then the message COULD have been interpreted as anti-Prod. Look at all the political shennanigans that Kings get up to when they don't have a Pope telling them what to do. France, Spain, Bavaria, Austria and Portugal have never EVAH gone to war with each other.

I would say Anna and Elsa are atheists.

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

It ain't thread-jack. Does Frozen have a pro or anti Christian message? is a valid topic.

True Love cures a frozen heart is a pro Christian message.

Elsa and Anna are Prods and Good. RC point of view is that RCism is the One True Faith, therefore any story with Prod heroes has an anti-christian message.

Bishop is Prod, but we never see him after the coronation, so we don't know his alignment.

We don't know Hans' and Weaselton's religion, all we know is that they are evil.

IF they had been explicitly RC, then the message would have been anti-RC.

IF they has been explicitly Prod, then the message COULD have been interpreted as anti-Prod. Look at all the political shtheennanigans that Kings get up to when they don't have a Pope telling them what to do. France, Spain, Bavaria, Austria and Portugal have never EVAH gone to war with each other.

I would say Anna and Elsa are atheists.

Effectively, they are indeed Atheists. Apart from Coronation and Weaselton, religion is irrelevant to the story.

The story focuses on Love rather than focusing on the GOD of Love. I continue to assert that a pro-Love message is a pro-Christian message.

[Nordengrund]

I would say Anna and Elsa are atheists.

Effectively, they are indeed Atheists. Apart from Coronation and Weaselton, religion is irrelevant to the story.

The story focuses on Love rather than focusing on the GOD of Love. I continue to assert that a pro-Love message is a pro-Christian message.

Elsa uses magic which is un-Christian.

[Shaggai]

Effectively, they are indeed Atheists. Apart from Coronation and Weaselton, religion is irrelevant to the story.

The story focuses on Love rather than focusing on the GOD of Love. I continue to assert that a pro-Love message is a pro-Christian message.

Elsa uses magic which is un-Christian.

How do you know she didn't have a series of extremely convenient (or inconvenient) miracles?

[The Alexanderians]

Elsa uses magic which is un-Christian.

How do you know she didn't have a series of extremely convenient (or inconvenient) miracles?

Or even that her ice powers weren't "her Cross to bare"?