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Postby Val Halla » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:48 pm

Kannap wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Cooties
*nods*

All I can come up with is "they're for girls, so if you buy it you're a girl"...


That's the shittiest logic I've ever heard.

People have shitty logic? *shrugs*
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Postby Kannap » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:49 pm

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Either you're a terrible dirty joke teller or this is an inside joke between you and friends 2-4. I fail to understand either

Cunning linguist. Say it ten times fast.


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Postby Gallade » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:49 pm

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I still fail to see the issue. What's the difference in buying tampons or buying anything else?

Cooties
*nods*

All I can come up with is "they're for girls, so if you buy it you're a girl"...

Seems to be some in-built fear of being seen with anything remotely related to women's crotches. Same level of awkward shuffling when I'm with him in a lingerie section.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:51 pm

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Valloria wrote:Heh, I don't hid my feelings because of male pride. I hide them because I'm an ENTJ and that's what we do.

Is that a good thing, really?

No, hiding your feelings because you think you should based on a bad personality classification system is not a good thing.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:51 pm

Gallade wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Cooties
*nods*

All I can come up with is "they're for girls, so if you buy it you're a girl"...

Seems to be some in-built fear of being seen with anything remotely related to women's crotches. Same level of awkward shuffling when I'm with him in a lingerie section.


I've no problem going into Victoria's secret with female friends. Nothing in there turns me on and I've no problem seeing it. I also fail to see how straight guys fear that store
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Postby Liberonscien » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:51 pm

Gallade wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Cooties
*nods*

All I can come up with is "they're for girls, so if you buy it you're a girl"...

Seems to be some in-built fear of being seen with anything remotely related to women's crotches. Same level of awkward shuffling when I'm with him in a lingerie section.

I think it might be a fear of being seen as perverted.
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Postby Valloria » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:52 pm

Kannap wrote:
Valloria wrote:Cunning linguist. Say it ten times fast.


All I've got is somebody who's smart and can speak a few languages

<sigh>
I don't think I can make it any more clearer, aside from shouting it from the rooftops. But if you don't get it, that's perfectly okay.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:53 pm

Liberonscien wrote:
Gallade wrote:Seems to be some in-built fear of being seen with anything remotely related to women's crotches. Same level of awkward shuffling when I'm with him in a lingerie section.

I think it might be a fear of being seen as perverted.


Buying tampons or lingerie for your partner is perverted? How so?
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Postby Liberonscien » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:53 pm

Kannap wrote:
Gallade wrote:Seems to be some in-built fear of being seen with anything remotely related to women's crotches. Same level of awkward shuffling when I'm with him in a lingerie section.


I've no problem going into Victoria's secret with female friends. Nothing in there turns me on and I've no problem seeing it. I also fail to see how straight guys fear that store

Afraid of being seen turned on and seen as perverts?
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Postby Jute » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:53 pm

Kannap wrote:
Valloria wrote:Cunning linguist. Say it ten times fast.


All I've got is somebody who's smart and can speak a few languages

Hey, did you see my post at the top of the page? I actually am in a somewhat similar situation as you, as in I might share your wish, although I'm not sure yet :P It's interesting to meet other people with similar feelings to you when these are kinda uncommon.
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Postby Valloria » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:53 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Jute wrote:Is that a good thing, really?

No, hiding your feelings because you think you should based on a bad personality classification system is not a good thing.

I've been hiding my feelings long before I discovered MBTI. I was bullied severely as a child for being emotionally "available" (a.k.a. effeminate), and so I developed it as a shield.
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Postby Liberonscien » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:53 pm

Kannap wrote:
Liberonscien wrote:I think it might be a fear of being seen as perverted.


Buying tampons or lingerie for your partner is perverted? How so?

For looking at it and possibly getting turned on.
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Postby Jute » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:54 pm

Kannap wrote:
Liberonscien wrote:I think it might be a fear of being seen as perverted.


Buying tampons or lingerie for your partner is perverted? How so?

No, but that somehow it'll be assumed that they want it for themselves.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Gallade » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:54 pm

Kannap wrote:
Gallade wrote:Seems to be some in-built fear of being seen with anything remotely related to women's crotches. Same level of awkward shuffling when I'm with him in a lingerie section.


I've no problem going into Victoria's secret with female friends. Nothing in there turns me on and I've no problem seeing it. I also fail to see how straight guys fear that store

What Lib said about being seen as perverted, probably. Which is stupid, he's clearly with me.
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Postby Liberonscien » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:55 pm

Jute wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Buying tampons or lingerie for your partner is perverted? How so?

No, but that somehow it'll be assumed that they want it for themselves.

Murphy's law.
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Postby Liberonscien » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:55 pm

Gallade wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I've no problem going into Victoria's secret with female friends. Nothing in there turns me on and I've no problem seeing it. I also fail to see how straight guys fear that store

What Lib said about being seen as perverted, probably. Which is stupid, he's clearly with me.

Agreed.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:56 pm

Liberonscien wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Buying tampons or lingerie for your partner is perverted? How so?

For looking at it and possibly getting turned on.


It's not publicly announced when you're turned on, only the penis owner knows. People don't assume you're in a lingerie store to masturbate, they assume you're there shopping for a gal
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Postby Jute » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:57 pm

Valloria wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, hiding your feelings because you think you should based on a bad personality classification system is not a good thing.

I've been hiding my feelings long before I discovered MBTI. I was bullied severely as a child for being emotionally "available" (a.k.a. effeminate), and so I developed it as a shield.

Maybe it's time you let go of it and try to accept who you are? Not that I'd pressure you into doing so, but you might turn out to be happier if you're no longer hiding your personality. This seems rather universal among most people, and I think I myself would belong there as well.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

Check out the Jutean language! Talk to me about anything. Avian air force flag (Source) Definition of atheism Is Religion Dangerous?

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Postby Barboneia » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:59 pm

I'm honestly surprised that I was so far able to get, like, 5 people onboard already with my new RP.
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Postby Jute » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:01 pm

Barboneia wrote:I'm honestly surprised that I was so far able to get, like, 5 people onboard already with my new RP.

See, there was no need to question your abilities as rp operator :P
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Val Halla » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:01 pm

Liberonscien wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Buying tampons or lingerie for your partner is perverted? How so?

For looking at it and possibly getting turned on.

Clothes can do that?
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Postby Jute » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:02 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Liberonscien wrote:For looking at it and possibly getting turned on.

Clothes can do that?

Yes, it's one of the reasons cross-dressing exists, for example.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

Check out the Jutean language! Talk to me about anything. Avian air force flag (Source) Definition of atheism Is Religion Dangerous?

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Postby Gallade » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:03 pm

Valloria wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, hiding your feelings because you think you should based on a bad personality classification system is not a good thing.

I've been hiding my feelings long before I discovered MBTI. I was bullied severely as a child for being emotionally "available" (a.k.a. effeminate), and so I developed it as a shield.

You're 14, right? I know it sounds terribly dismissive to say you'll grow out of it, but you will. I've seen this behaviour dozens of times at work; as the years between the bullying years and your current state widen you'll start opening up. No need to obsess over it, just let it happen.

And report any future bullying, of course.
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Postby Barboneia » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:03 pm

Jute wrote:
Barboneia wrote:I'm honestly surprised that I was so far able to get, like, 5 people onboard already with my new RP.

See, there was no need to question your abilities as rp operator :P

Indeed. Im planning on making a spiritual successor to my first RP in a month or two.
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Postby Jute » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:04 pm

Gallade wrote:
Valloria wrote:I've been hiding my feelings long before I discovered MBTI. I was bullied severely as a child for being emotionally "available" (a.k.a. effeminate), and so I developed it as a shield.

You're 14, right? I know it sounds terribly dismissive to say you'll grow out of it, but you will. I've seen this behaviour dozens of times at work; as the years between the bullying years and your current state widen you'll start opening up. No need to obsess over it, just let it happen.

And report any future bullying, of course.

I think I can somewhat confirm this :P
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

Check out the Jutean language! Talk to me about anything. Avian air force flag (Source) Definition of atheism Is Religion Dangerous?

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