Hillary Clinton to Launch 2016 Campaign

[Genivaria]

There is literally only one letter missing and you can't tell what I meant to say?

Your saying that I think most black people are criminals?

Statistically, most gun owners are white people that live in the South and in rural areas, away from the coasts. so it might not be that far off...

and statistically most crimes are committed by blacks, but you don't see me acting like all black people are criminals.

[MERIZoC]

Your saying that I think most black people are criminals?

and statistically most crimes are committed by blacks, but you don't see me acting like all black people are criminals.

Most criminals are black≠most blacks are criminals. Though both are inane statements.

[North Calaveras]

Your saying that I think most black people are criminals?

and statistically most crimes are committed by blacks, but you don't see me acting like all black people are criminals.

I said statistically

I assume you know how to interpret that correct? Because statically is not the same as my personal opinion...

[United Russian Soviet States]

I, Merizoc, am announcing that I am throwing my official support for the office of the Presidency behind Zeke.

I second that

That kid is smart. He would probably make a good President. He would also most likely be better than Hillary.

[Genivaria]

Most criminals are black≠most blacks are criminals. Though both are inane statements.

True enough.

[Caribica]

I second that

That kid is smart. He would probably make a good President. He would also most likely be better than Hillary.

He would likely make a better president than all the candidates. Zeke for prez 2016!

[The United Territories of Providence]

I said statistically

I assume you know how to interpret that correct? Because statically is not the same as my personal opinion...

Well in that case...STATISTICALLY speaking. You are incorrect, no matter how you slice it.

Whites constitute the majority of the prison population.
http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp

White people commit more crimes than blacks.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

Maybe if you talk about conviction rates when compared to the size of an ethnic group...but generally speaking. Whites commit more crime. But that's not what the thread is about, the thread is about Secretary Clinton.

[North Calaveras]

I said statistically

I assume you know how to interpret that correct? Because statically is not the same as my personal opinion...

Well in that case...STATISTICALLY speaking. You are incorrect, no matter how you slice it.

Whites constitute the majority of the prison population.
http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp

White people commit more crimes than blacks.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

Maybe if you talk about conviction rates when compared to the size of an ethnic group...but generally speaking. Whites commit more crime. But that's not what the thread is about, the thread is about Secretary Clinton.

Your right it is about Hilary Clinton, where is apparently okay for rebels(whom were not even sure what their goals are) to get military weapons but is for tighter American gun laws.

[The United Territories of Providence]

Well in that case...STATISTICALLY speaking. You are incorrect, no matter how you slice it.

Whites constitute the majority of the prison population.
http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp

White people commit more crimes than blacks.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

Maybe if you talk about conviction rates when compared to the size of an ethnic group...but generally speaking. Whites commit more crime. But that's not what the thread is about, the thread is about Secretary Clinton.

Your right it is about Hilary Clinton, where is apparently okay for rebels(whom were not even sure what their goals are) to get military weapons but is for tighter American gun laws.

I think that's a false equivalency but I agree with your point that the 2nd amendment should be protected. Common sense regulation is fine, but 10-day waiting periods and magazine limits and bans on some semi-automatic firearms is excessive. Especially when these regulations effect law abiding citizens and not so much criminals, who can just as easily purchase an unregistered weapon illegally.

And we should be hesitant to arm "moderate" rebels. We've armed rebels before. We also funded and trained them. It was great when they were fighting the Soviets....not so great when they attacked New York City. The moderates in Syria aren't pro-America, just anti-ISIS. Which is great now, but we need reliable partners in the middle east.

[Genivaria]

Your right it is about Hilary Clinton, where is apparently okay for rebels(whom were not even sure what their goals are) to get military weapons but is for tighter American gun laws.

I think that's a false equivalency but I agree with your point that the 2nd amendment should be protected. Common sense regulation is fine, but 10-day waiting periods and magazine limits and bans on some semi-automatic firearms is excessive. Especially when these regulations effect law abiding citizens and not so much criminals, who can just as easily purchase an unregistered weapon illegally.

And we should be hesitant to arm "moderate" rebels. We've armed rebels before. We also funded and trained them. It was great when they were fighting the Soviets....not so great when they attacked New York City. The moderates in Syria aren't pro-America, just anti-ISIS. Which is great now, but we need reliable partners in the middle east.

Like the Kurds?

[North Calaveras]

Your right it is about Hilary Clinton, where is apparently okay for rebels(whom were not even sure what their goals are) to get military weapons but is for tighter American gun laws.

I think that's a false equivalency but I agree with your point that the 2nd amendment should be protected. Common sense regulation is fine, but 10-day waiting periods and magazine limits and bans on some semi-automatic firearms is excessive. Especially when these regulations effect law abiding citizens and not so much criminals, who can just as easily purchase an unregistered weapon illegally.

And we should be hesitant to arm "moderate" rebels. We've armed rebels before. We also funded and trained them. It was great when they were fighting the Soviets....not so great when they attacked New York City. The moderates in Syria aren't pro-America, just anti-ISIS. Which is great now, but we need reliable partners in the middle east.

I like you...

[The United Territories of Providence]

I think that's a false equivalency but I agree with your point that the 2nd amendment should be protected. Common sense regulation is fine, but 10-day waiting periods and magazine limits and bans on some semi-automatic firearms is excessive. Especially when these regulations effect law abiding citizens and not so much criminals, who can just as easily purchase an unregistered weapon illegally.

And we should be hesitant to arm "moderate" rebels. We've armed rebels before. We also funded and trained them. It was great when they were fighting the Soviets....not so great when they attacked New York City. The moderates in Syria aren't pro-America, just anti-ISIS. Which is great now, but we need reliable partners in the middle east.

Like the Kurds?

Wait, have we seriously not armed the Kurds yet? If we're going to arm anybody, I trust them. Unlike the Iraqi security forces, they hopefully won't sell their weapons to the insurgents. or worse, become the new insurgents.

[Kelinfort]

Hillary is bought and paid for by the Koch Brothers. She is against GMO labelling...

Good.

[British Empire Strikes Back]

Hillary is bought and paid for by the Koch Brothers. She is against GMO labelling...

Good.

Why! You don't want to know what goes in your mouth? You can be for GMOs and want labeling. I am against GMOs, however. She is jst a Republican. We need Bernie Sanders.

[Genivaria]

Like the Kurds?

Wait, have we seriously not armed the Kurds yet? If we're going to arm anybody, I trust them. Unlike the Iraqi security forces, they hopefully won't sell their weapons to the insurgents. or worse, become the new insurgents.

Not in any serious manner no.
They've been saying for months they need heavier weapons against the armored vehicles that ISIS stole.

[British Empire Strikes Back]

Wait, have we seriously not armed the Kurds yet? If we're going to arm anybody, I trust them. Unlike the Iraqi security forces, they hopefully won't sell their weapons to the insurgents. or worse, become the new insurgents.

Not in any serious manner no.
They've been saying for months they need heavier weapons against the armored vehicles that ISIS stole.

The Kurds are terrorists! They have killed tens of thousands of Turks, Europeans, and some Americans! We do not need to arm them, we need to stay out of it! It is a war that the Middle East must have amongst itself, we should not intervene!

[Genivaria]

Not in any serious manner no.
They've been saying for months they need heavier weapons against the armored vehicles that ISIS stole.

The Kurds are terrorists! They have killed tens of thousands of Turks, Europeans, and some Americans! We do not need to arm them, we need to stay out of it! It is a war that the Middle East must have amongst itself, we should not intervene!

Really an entire ethnic group between 3 countries are terrorists?
That's really fucking racist.

[United Russian Soviet States]

That kid is smart. He would probably make a good President. He would also most likely be better than Hillary.

He would likely make a better president than all the candidates. Zeke for prez 2016!

If only he could run.

[The United Territories of Providence]

Not in any serious manner no.
They've been saying for months they need heavier weapons against the armored vehicles that ISIS stole.

The Kurds are terrorists! They have killed tens of thousands of Turks, Europeans, and some Americans! We do not need to arm them, we need to stay out of it! It is a war that the Middle East must have amongst itself, we should not intervene!

Kurd is an ethnicity. Saying the Kurds are terrorists is a giant generalization. The Kurds in Iraq have been victim to genocide over the 20th and 21st centuries, and not perpetrators at least not to my knowledge. By not arming the Kurds, we'd be resulting to acquiescence. The United States does not condone terror. If we leave the Kurds as they are, more civilians will die at the hands of ISIL. Isolationism is a dangerous thing. To look at this as "the Middle East's War" is short sighted. ISIL is a threat to our allies in The region, like Saudi Arabia (who is a major trade partner and investor in our country), as well as our allies in Europe. We should do what we reasonably can to help resolve this conflict, especially since our actions helped cause it.

[Dakini]

Good.

Why! You don't want to know what goes in your mouth? You can be for GMOs and want labeling. I am against GMOs, however. She is jst a Republican. We need Bernie Sanders.

The only people who are for GMO labeling and/or anti-GMO are people who are either uninformed or basically scientifically illiterate.

[British Empire Strikes Back]

Why! You don't want to know what goes in your mouth? You can be for GMOs and want labeling. I am against GMOs, however. She is jst a Republican. We need Bernie Sanders.

The only people who are for GMO labeling and/or anti-GMO are people who are either uninformed or basically scientifically illiterate.

What is wrong with labeling? If there is nothing wrong with GMOs, then why not kabel them? Hillary is paid off
by Monsanto. Monsanto already killed millions of people with Agent Orange and Asbestos. GMO corn has been killing monarch butterflies! You are uninformed and brainwashed by corporate propaganda! Do you not want to know what goes in your mouth?

[AiliailiA]

Why! You don't want to know what goes in your mouth? You can be for GMOs and want labeling. I am against GMOs, however. She is jst a Republican. We need Bernie Sanders.

The only people who are for GMO labeling and/or anti-GMO are people who are either uninformed or basically scientifically illiterate.

That isn't an argument against labelling. Do you have an argument against labelling GMO's?

[AiliailiA]

The only people who are for GMO labeling and/or anti-GMO are people who are either uninformed or basically scientifically illiterate.

What is wrong with labeling? If there is nothing wrong with GMOs, then why not kabel them? Hillary is paid off
by Monsanto. Monsanto already killed millions of people with Agent Orange and Asbestos. GMO corn has been killing monarch butterflies! You are uninformed and brainwashed by corporate propaganda! Do you not want to know what goes in your mouth?

I don't agree with you. I wouldn't avoid GMO's if they were labelled. But I support labelling (with identification of which GMO according to its patent number) for an actual scientific reason.

I want there to be a control group for epidemiological studies. Anti-GMO consumers are the control group. If you're willing to restrict your own food choices, and pay higher prices because you're eating something which is harder to grow and more of a niche in the market, then good luck to you. You're doing it for science!

[Crimiea]

And that opponent sat on his ass while college students in UCs have to fork up more money from a tuition hike when it can prevented by looking at Pat Brown's administration, or have a government akin to Germany's.

A country that is 4x Germany's population and GDP can not afford what Germany can afford per capita, especially a state with less than half of Germany's population but half of its GDP.

And Kashkari still didn't make enough of a threat to cause Brown to even campaign. So, you agree then...Kashkari is not a good candidate. Though it makes me wonder why you brought him up as someone who could contend for the presidency.

It's difficult to run against an incumbent, that I'll admit. Kashkari also has the disadvantage of not having sponsors as he is going against someone who already made connections. The presidential race, however, could be a different story as Obama does not have the legal authority to run for another term. Doesn't mean Neel will be a serious threat to Democrat's chances of winning 2016.

It's wrong to say "I'd like X to run"? I did not say "Neel will win", I said "I'd like X, Y, and Z" to run just like I stated why disappointment in Hillary running instead of Warren.

Also, I'd like it if you don't assume I agree/disagree with something I've yet to explicitly say. I did not say Kashkari's not a good candidate nor did I say I believed he has a shot for the presidency, hence why I said that if the ones I listed were to run, then the Democrats would need some luck. I only stated that I'd like him to run against Hillary, not that he'll be a popular candidate.

And that opponent sat on his ass while college students in UCs have to fork up more money from a tuition hike when it can prevented by looking at Pat Brown's administration, or have a government akin to Germany's.

A country that is 4x Germany's population and GDP can not afford what Germany can afford per capita, especially a state with less than half of Germany's population but half of its GDP.

The hell are you talking about, "Sat on his ass"?

That still isn't enough to threaten the school system. He was first governor in 1974 and since then held various offices. Our education and healthcare system is laughably pathetic compared to Germany even if the UCs were to reverse their tuition hike, even if he passed a bill reducing tuition in half. What was he doing for all those years regarding education? Since the 1970's, tuition rates have been increasing and loans are becoming a serious threat to the state; what did he do?

To visualize, lets compare our state to Germany. Germany's 2013 population is 80.7 million with an economy of 3.73 trillion, California's 2.2 trillion dollar economy (2013) and a 38.4 million population (2013) is near a ratio of 2 to 1.

California's population (2013): 38.4 million
California's GSP (2013): $2.2 trillion

GSP/population = 2.2E12/38.4E6 = 57,291 $/person

Multiplied by 2
38.4*2 = 76.8 million
2.2 trillion*2 = $4.4 trillion

double GSP/double population = 4.4E12/76.8E6 = 57,291 $/person

Germany's population (2013): 80.7 million
Germany's GDP (2013): $3.73 Trillion

3.73E11/80.7E6 = 46,203 $/person.

Germany has 46,203 $/person. That is 20% less than California and 20% more taxable income California can have.

The GDP to population ratio is more favorable for California than Germany, so there should be more wealth available for social services like education. For some unknown reason, we have student loans, tuition fees, and now the UCs are increasing their tuition.

That is what I mean by "sitting on his ass". What was he doing since 1974 and why aren't we doing as good as or better than Germany? It's a country with smaller land, larger population, and smaller economy compared to California's if we use the GDP to Population ratio. What humiliation for a state to be doing worse than a country that is more limited than we are.

[Costa Fierro]

You don't want to know what goes in your mouth?

That depends on whether or not it contains nuts.