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Do you support Hillary Clinton? What will be the 1# issue of 2016?

Yes, I support Hillary Clinton.
173
20%
No, I do not support Hillary Clinton.
300
34%
Healthcare
16
2%
Foreign Policy (ISIL,Iran,Yemen,Russia etc.)
134
15%
Debt/Deficit
22
3%
Economy (Unemployment,Wages,Trade, Taxes etc)
120
14%
Immigration
15
2%
Climate Change
24
3%
Civil Rights & Civil Liberties
55
6%
Other
13
1%
 
Total votes : 872

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Postby Myrensis » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:20 pm

Gauthier wrote:And let's remember who decided to cut embassy security budgets. Hint: It wasn't Hillary.

GOP cuts to embassy security draw scrutiny, jabs from Democrats


I was particularly amused by the Republican complaints about the Democrats trying to use Benghazi for cheap political points. Which party is it again that is in the middle of its...eighth? investigation into Benghazi, six months after the House Committee they lead released a report saying there was nothing to investigate? And using said investigation to demand access to fish through the e-mails of the presumptive 2016 Democrat nominee? :p

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:40 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Gauthier wrote:And let's remember who decided to cut embassy security budgets. Hint: It wasn't Hillary.

GOP cuts to embassy security draw scrutiny, jabs from Democrats


I was particularly amused by the Republican complaints about the Democrats trying to use Benghazi for cheap political points. Which party is it again that is in the middle of its...eighth? investigation into Benghazi, six months after the House Committee they lead released a report saying there was nothing to investigate? And using said investigation to demand access to fish through the e-mails of the presumptive 2016 Democrat nominee? :p


It makes one wish it was a deliberate plan to fuck things up and time them so the consequences happen under a Democrat's watch and they get to rant about it. Because the reality is they probably didn't think about the consequences before making the cuts and when it happened they simply saw a chance to soil Hillary Clinton's image in hopes of killing her 2016 election chances.
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Postby Penguin Union Nation » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:02 pm

Between Hillary and literally any Rethug, I will choose Hillary. But I refuse to be thrilled about her campaign, because even if she isn't the mass-murderer the GOP paints her as, she still has a little too much baggage. Frankly, I think she's too conservative.

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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:28 pm

I, Merizoc, am announcing that I am throwing my official support for the office of the Presidency behind Zeke.

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Postby Elsa the Snow Queen » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:31 pm

Merizoc wrote:I, Merizoc, am announcing that I am throwing my official support for the office of the Presidency behind Zeke.

I second that
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Postby Tsaraine » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:19 pm

Penguin Union Nation wrote:Between Hillary and literally any Rethug, I will choose Hillary. But I refuse to be thrilled about her campaign, because even if she isn't the mass-murderer the GOP paints her as, she still has a little too much baggage. Frankly, I think she's too conservative.

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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:47 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
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Isn't that how they talk in 'Mureca!


no it's not at all

it's what certain people do to try to make out gun owners as a bunch of uneducated southerners, which is not true in the slightest.

they think it's cute to type the opinions of gun owners in some kind of "redneck" style, when it's really just offensive and wrong.


Statistically, most gun owners are white people that live in the South and in rural areas, away from the coasts. so it might not be that far off...
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:23 pm

Atlanticatia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
no it's not at all

it's what certain people do to try to make out gun owners as a bunch of uneducated southerners, which is not true in the slightest.

they think it's cute to type the opinions of gun owners in some kind of "redneck" style, when it's really just offensive and wrong.


Statistically, most gun owners are white people that live in the South and in rural areas, away from the coasts. so it might not be that far off...


and statistically most crimes are committed by blacks, but you don't see me acting like all black people are criminals.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:30 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:
Statistically, most gun owners are white people that live in the South and in rural areas, away from the coasts. so it might not be that far off...


and statistically most crimes are committed by blacks, but you don't see me acting like all black people are criminals.

Incorrect.

And this is just for arrests, something far more likely to happen to an innocent black person than an innocent white person.

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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:35 pm

Merizoc wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
and statistically most crimes are committed by blacks, but you don't see me acting like all black people are criminals.

Incorrect.

And this is just for arrests, something far more likely to happen to an innocent black person than an innocent white person.


Oh my god...get real dude

you know exactly the point i'm trying to make here.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:37 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:
Statistically, most gun owners are white people that live in the South and in rural areas, away from the coasts. so it might not be that far off...


and statistically most crimes are committed by blacks, but you don't see me acting like all black people are criminals.

No just acting lie most black people are criminals.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:38 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Incorrect.

And this is just for arrests, something far more likely to happen to an innocent black person than an innocent white person.


Oh my god...get real dude

you know exactly the point i'm trying to make here.

Your point probably sucks if you need to resort to extreme hyperbole/lies to illustrate it.

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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:38 pm

Genivaria wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
and statistically most crimes are committed by blacks, but you don't see me acting like all black people are criminals.

No just acting lie most black people are criminals.


i dont even know what your saying here
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:39 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Incorrect.

And this is just for arrests, something far more likely to happen to an innocent black person than an innocent white person.


Oh my god...get real dude

you know exactly the point i'm trying to make here.

Is 'get real' your fall back phrase for when someone proves you wrong?
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:42 pm

Genivaria wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Oh my god...get real dude

you know exactly the point i'm trying to make here.

Is 'get real' your fall back phrase for when someone proves you wrong?


No, but there was a person here who was making fun of gun owners by using a supposed accent when making hypothetical quotes of American gun owners, i merely pointed out that it was offensive. But apparently it's cool to stereotype people on Nationstates, even though if it was against muslims or some other group there would be an outrage.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:44 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Is 'get real' your fall back phrase for when someone proves you wrong?


No, but there was a person here who was making fun of gun owners by using a supposed accent when making hypothetical quotes of American gun owners, i merely pointed out that it was offensive. But apparently it's cool to stereotype people on Nationstates, even though if it was against muslims or some other group there would be an outrage.

People jokingly scream "Allahu Akbar!" on here all the time. No one flips their shit.
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:46 pm

Merizoc wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
No, but there was a person here who was making fun of gun owners by using a supposed accent when making hypothetical quotes of American gun owners, i merely pointed out that it was offensive. But apparently it's cool to stereotype people on Nationstates, even though if it was against muslims or some other group there would be an outrage.

People jokingly scream "Allahu Akbar!" on here all the time. No one flips their shit.


except it wasn't a joke being made first off. He actually thought Americans were like that.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:50 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Genivaria wrote:No just acting lie most black people are criminals.


i dont even know what your saying here

There is literally only one letter missing and you can't tell what I meant to say?
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:50 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Merizoc wrote:People jokingly scream "Allahu Akbar!" on here all the time. No one flips their shit.


except it wasn't a joke being made first off. He actually thought Americans were like that.

TBF (to the best of my knowledge) and Atlanticatia are American. So no. It was a joke.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:51 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Merizoc wrote:People jokingly scream "Allahu Akbar!" on here all the time. No one flips their shit.


except it wasn't a joke being made first off. He actually thought Americans were like that.

Tell us more about how you can read minds through the internet.
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:51 pm

Genivaria wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
i dont even know what your saying here

There is literally only one letter missing and you can't tell what I meant to say?


Your saying that I think most black people are criminals?
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:52 pm

Genivaria wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
except it wasn't a joke being made first off. He actually thought Americans were like that.

Tell us more about how you can read minds through the internet.


Tell me more about how I'm supposed to read emotions and intent through text... :roll:
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Postby British Empire Strikes Back » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:53 pm

Hillary is bought and paid for by the Koch Brothers. She is against GMO labelling, against universal healthcare, she was against gay marriage, for the Iraq War, etc. We need Bernie Sanders! If Hillary is elected, this country will be ruined!
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:53 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Tell us more about how you can read minds through the internet.


Tell me more about how I'm supposed to read emotions and intent through text... :roll:

Or, you know, rational logic.

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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:54 pm

Merizoc wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Tell me more about how I'm supposed to read emotions and intent through text... :roll:

Or, you know, rational logic.


Were on nationstates and you want to talk about rational logic...
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