Hillary Clinton to Launch 2016 Campaign

[Farnhamia]

we need more regulation and higher taxes. ...unless you don't want to get our finances under control...

im hoping she will "evolve" on the drug war and come out against civil forfeiture. I don't see any future president getting the warrantless NSA searches under control. its too scary that they might miss some new threat and then its the president's fault for not catching it in the plotters email. *sigh*

Or maybe, you know, cut down on all that entitlement and military spending, cut taxes, and rejuvenate the economy.

Rand Paul has come out against it, opposing warrantless searches in his campaign platform and his Senate website. If he is elected president, he could probably repeal the PATRIOT Act.

Only Congress can repeal laws.

[Ashmoria]

we need more regulation and higher taxes. ...unless you don't want to get our finances under control...

im hoping she will "evolve" on the drug war and come out against civil forfeiture. I don't see any future president getting the warrantless NSA searches under control. its too scary that they might miss some new threat and then its the president's fault for not catching it in the plotters email. *sigh*

Or maybe, you know, cut down on all that entitlement and military spending, cut taxes, and rejuvenate the economy.

Rand Paul has come out against it, opposing warrantless searches in his campaign platform and his Senate website. If he is elected president, he could probably repeal the PATRIOT Act.

rand doesn't have much of a chance but once the security of the country would rest securely on his shoulders and he starts getting the daily reports of threats around the world he would probably have the same reaction that other presidents have--to do whatever is recommended to make sure that nothing bad happens on his watch.

taking money out of the economy wouldn't rejuvenate the economy.

[Timsvill]

How are they better then any republicans? The republicans have 1 of the great potential candidates! Jeb Bush, Look at florida today! It's one of the best states currently! It has a small government presents in every day lives. He sliced their spending in half, while moving unnecessary programs that are being government funned to the private sector.

florida isn't in a good place today. that's not jebs fault, of course, he served too long ago.

jeb was a passable governor of florida. that makes him better than some of the other republican candidates but not mrs Clinton who has been first lady, senator and secretary of state.

http://www.foramerica.org/2014/01/7-rea ... president/
There is a part that says Hillary was fired during the watergate scandal. I didn't believe it at first, then I googled it, and it was true Hillary was fired and was a lawyer in the watergate scandal.
Link to the site that back up my claim. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp . Now she was fired during the watergate scandal, but it wasn't because of a issue dealing with Nixon's resignation or impeachment.

[Ashmoria]

florida isn't in a good place today. that's not jebs fault, of course, he served too long ago.

jeb was a passable governor of florida. that makes him better than some of the other republican candidates but not mrs Clinton who has been first lady, senator and secretary of state.

http://www.foramerica.org/2014/01/7-rea ... president/
There is a part that says Hillary was fired during the watergate scandal. I didn't believe it at first, then I googled it, and it was true Hillary was fired and was a lawyer in the watergate scandal.
Link to the site that back up my claim. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp . Now she was fired during the watergate scandal, but it wasn't because of a issue dealing with Nixon's resignation or impeachment.

so what if she was fired from a job in the 70s?

[Farnhamia]

florida isn't in a good place today. that's not jebs fault, of course, he served too long ago.

jeb was a passable governor of florida. that makes him better than some of the other republican candidates but not mrs Clinton who has been first lady, senator and secretary of state.

http://www.foramerica.org/2014/01/7-rea ... president/
There is a part that says Hillary was fired during the watergate scandal. I didn't believe it at first, then I googled it, and it was true Hillary was fired and was a lawyer in the watergate scandal.
Link to the site that back up my claim. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp . Now she was fired during the watergate scandal, but it wasn't because of a issue dealing with Nixon's resignation or impeachment.

You didn't read the Snopes article, did you? It says the claim is false right at the top. Jerry Zeifman didn't have the power to fire her because she didn't work for him, she was let go because the impeachment inquiry ended with Nixon's resignation. Jerry Zeifman is a notorious Hillary-hater and has been grinding that axe for 20 years. It makes him a lot of money.

[Timsvill]

http://www.foramerica.org/2014/01/7-rea ... president/
There is a part that says Hillary was fired during the watergate scandal. I didn't believe it at first, then I googled it, and it was true Hillary was fired and was a lawyer in the watergate scandal.
Link to the site that back up my claim. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp . Now she was fired during the watergate scandal, but it wasn't because of a issue dealing with Nixon's resignation or impeachment.

so what if she was fired from a job in the 70s?

It's at the bottom of the list of what matters. But if you read the rest of the first link in my post, then you'll at least see why I don't want Hillary to win president. I see your side as you thinking Hillary would be better then the republicans. Now it's time for you to see my side and my frame of thinking. I believe if you don't agree someone, you should at least see their side and what they think of the issue. It gives more understanding on other people's thoughts.

[Ashmoria]

http://www.foramerica.org/2014/01/7-rea ... president/
There is a part that says Hillary was fired during the watergate scandal. I didn't believe it at first, then I googled it, and it was true Hillary was fired and was a lawyer in the watergate scandal.
Link to the site that back up my claim. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp . Now she was fired during the watergate scandal, but it wasn't because of a issue dealing with Nixon's resignation or impeachment.

You didn't read the Snopes article, did you? It says the claim is false right at the top. Jerry Zeifman didn't have the power to fire her because she didn't work for him, she was let go because the impeachment inquiry ended with Nixon's resignation. Jerry Zeifman is a notorious Hillary-hater and has been grinding that axe for 20 years. It makes him a lot of money.

reading that snopes article again (I didn't pay close attention the other day because its so irrelevant) she was never fired at all, just let go after Nixon resigned and the investigation ended.

[Timsvill]

http://www.foramerica.org/2014/01/7-rea ... president/
There is a part that says Hillary was fired during the watergate scandal. I didn't believe it at first, then I googled it, and it was true Hillary was fired and was a lawyer in the watergate scandal.
Link to the site that back up my claim. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp . Now she was fired during the watergate scandal, but it wasn't because of a issue dealing with Nixon's resignation or impeachment.

You didn't read the Snopes article, did you? It says the claim is false right at the top. Jerry Zeifman didn't have the power to fire her because she didn't work for him, she was let go because the impeachment inquiry ended with Nixon's resignation. Jerry Zeifman is a notorious Hillary-hater and has been grinding that axe for 20 years. It makes him a lot of money.

You sir, are correct. I did read the false part, but I read it until I found info that could back up my claim. I got to the part that had the guy saying "let me put it this way, i didn't fire her, I terminated her."

[Ashmoria]

so what if she was fired from a job in the 70s?

It's at the bottom of the list of what matters. But if you read the rest of the first link in my post, then you'll at least see why I don't want Hillary to win president. I see your side as you thinking Hillary would be better then the republicans. Now it's time for you to see my side and my frame of thinking. I believe if you don't agree someone, you should at least see their side and what they think of the issue. It gives more understanding on other people's thoughts.

what reasons did you find the most compelling? I find none of them compelling.

[Timsvill]

It's at the bottom of the list of what matters. But if you read the rest of the first link in my post, then you'll at least see why I don't want Hillary to win president. I see your side as you thinking Hillary would be better then the republicans. Now it's time for you to see my side and my frame of thinking. I believe if you don't agree someone, you should at least see their side and what they think of the issue. It gives more understanding on other people's thoughts.

what reasons did you find the most compelling? I find none of them compelling.

The failed health care plan one, and Benghazi. You might be saying "oh my god! He's one of the republicans that watches Fox News!" And you sir, would be wrong. I hate Fox News! I am a republican, but I don't like how they give us republicans a bad reputation. Now the Benghazi scandal, I don't like the way Hillary handled it.

[The Black Forrest]

she (and the current president) is head and shoulders above the proposed republican candidates. it would be silly to wait for someone better. there IS no one better.

How are they better then any republicans? The republicans have 1 of the great potential candidates! Jeb Bush, Look at florida today! It's one of the best states currently! It has a small government presents in every day lives. He sliced their spending in half, while moving unnecessary programs that are being government funned to the private sector.

Oh wait you are serious.

Look up the Schiavo affair. He is a vindictive wanker who thinks all that matters is what he wants regardless of the laws.

[Kelinfort]

what reasons did you find the most compelling? I find none of them compelling.

The failed health care plan one, and Benghazi. You might be saying "oh my god! He's one of the republicans that watches Fox News!" And you sir, would be wrong. I hate Fox News! I am a republican, but I don't like how they give us republicans a bad reputation. Now the Benghazi scandal, I don't like the way Hillary handled it.

Did you like the way Reagan handled the Marine Barracks and embassy bombing in Lebanon?

You mean Hillarycare or the website?

[Wallenburg]

I support Hillary as the lesser evil. I hope she puts Sanders, Kerry, or Warren in her cabinet, but this seems unlikely.

[The Black Forrest]

42% of republican cant see themselves ever supporting jeb. that is better than chris Christie but worse than the rest.

When given the choice between a democrat or jeb, I bet most of them will still prefer jeb. The real question is how much support he can get from swing voters. Coming from a swing state will give him an important home-state bonus.

if it was only that simple. You need a plan. Preaching the beauty of trickle down economics isn't going to carry them anymore. Few are going to but in on all we need to do is cut the social assistance programs and nirvana will happen.

The cons like to talk about it. However, you don't see them jumping to cut federal money from their state.....

[Ashmoria]

what reasons did you find the most compelling? I find none of them compelling.

The failed health care plan one, and Benghazi. You might be saying "oh my god! He's one of the republicans that watches Fox News!" And you sir, would be wrong. I hate Fox News! I am a republican, but I don't like how they give us republicans a bad reputation. Now the Benghazi scandal, I don't like the way Hillary handled it.

what bothers you about the failed health care thing?

the republicans investigated Benghazi and they found nothing to dis mrs Clinton over that the state department's report didn't find. what "handling" of it bothers you?

[Ashmoria]

dp

[Ecnard]

I support Hillary as the lesser evil. I hope she puts Sanders, Kerry, or Warren in her cabinet, but this seems unlikely.

Oh no sir, Hillary is the most evil one. If you consider her to be the "lesser evil" then you have been severely brainwashed.

[Ecnard]

what bothers you about the failed health care thing?

the republicans investigated Benghazi and they found nothing to dis mrs Clinton over that the state department's report didn't find. what "handling" of it bothers you?

Please fix your grammar.

[Farnhamia]

You didn't read the Snopes article, did you? It says the claim is false right at the top. Jerry Zeifman didn't have the power to fire her because she didn't work for him, she was let go because the impeachment inquiry ended with Nixon's resignation. Jerry Zeifman is a notorious Hillary-hater and has been grinding that axe for 20 years. It makes him a lot of money.

You sir, are correct. I did read the false part, but I read it until I found info that could back up my claim. I got to the part that had the guy saying "let me put it this way, i didn't fire her, I terminated her."

Which is a lie.

But as noted above, Zeifman had no authority to "terminate" Hillary. They were members of different staffs, and Zeifman had no hiring or firing authority over members of the Impeachment Inquiry staff for which Hillary worked (that authority rested with Special Counsel John Doar and, ultimately, with House Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino). Quite tellingly, Zeifman made absolutely no mention of having "fired" or "terminated" Hillary in his 1995 book and only started claiming so much later; back in 1995 he plainly stated that Hillary had remained with the inquiry staff up until the end, leaving only when President Nixon's August 1974 resignation made the issue of impeachment moot and the Judiciary Committee's impeachment inquiry staff was therefore disbanded:

Hillary was twenty-seven when the impeachment inquiry staff was disbanded. The next morning she took a train down to Little Rock, Arkansas. She moved in with Bill Clinton and they eventually married.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons ... gHdzHxg.99

[Ecnard]

You sir, are correct. I did read the false part, but I read it until I found info that could back up my claim. I got to the part that had the guy saying "let me put it this way, i didn't fire her, I terminated her."

Which is a lie.

But as noted above, Zeifman had no authority to "terminate" Hillary. They were members of different staffs, and Zeifman had no hiring or firing authority over members of the Impeachment Inquiry staff for which Hillary worked (that authority rested with Special Counsel John Doar and, ultimately, with House Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino). Quite tellingly, Zeifman made absolutely no mention of having "fired" or "terminated" Hillary in his 1995 book and only started claiming so much later; back in 1995 he plainly stated that Hillary had remained with the inquiry staff up until the end, leaving only when President Nixon's August 1974 resignation made the issue of impeachment moot and the Judiciary Committee's impeachment inquiry staff was therefore disbanded:

Hillary was twenty-seven when the impeachment inquiry staff was disbanded. The next morning she took a train down to Little Rock, Arkansas. She moved in with Bill Clinton and they eventually married.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons ... gHdzHxg.99

But snopes is a horrible source.

[Wallenburg]

I support Hillary as the lesser evil. I hope she puts Sanders, Kerry, or Warren in her cabinet, but this seems unlikely.

Oh no sir, Hillary is the most evil one. If you consider her to be the "lesser evil" then you have been severely brainwashed.

Not even a good ad hominem. Also, brainwashed by whom? FOX News?

[Ecnard]

Oh no sir, Hillary is the most evil one. If you consider her to be the "lesser evil" then you have been severely brainwashed.

Not even a good ad hominem. Also, brainwashed by whom? FOX News?

Whatever you want kid.

[Ashmoria]

what bothers you about the failed health care thing?

the republicans investigated Benghazi and they found nothing to dis mrs Clinton over that the state department's report didn't find. what "handling" of it bothers you?

Please fix your grammar.

im sorry I guess im too stupid to notice my grammatical errors.

[Ecnard]

Please fix your grammar.

im sorry I guess im too stupid to notice my grammatical errors.

[The Black Forrest]

what reasons did you find the most compelling? I find none of them compelling.

The failed health care plan one, and Benghazi. You might be saying "oh my god! He's one of the republicans that watches Fox News!" And you sir, would be wrong. I hate Fox News! I am a republican, but I don't like how they give us republicans a bad reputation. Now the Benghazi scandal, I don't like the way Hillary handled it.

Oh yea Benghazi! Ok 4 guys died on her watch. Do you hate Reagan over Beirut?