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Do you support Hillary Clinton? What will be the 1# issue of 2016?

Yes, I support Hillary Clinton.
173
20%
No, I do not support Hillary Clinton.
300
34%
Healthcare
16
2%
Foreign Policy (ISIL,Iran,Yemen,Russia etc.)
134
15%
Debt/Deficit
22
3%
Economy (Unemployment,Wages,Trade, Taxes etc)
120
14%
Immigration
15
2%
Climate Change
24
3%
Civil Rights & Civil Liberties
55
6%
Other
13
1%
 
Total votes : 872

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Postby Murkwood » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:19 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Money from human rights abusers should be denied.


For once, I'm inclined to agree with Murkwood here.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:22 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Money from human rights abusers should be denied.


For once, I'm inclined to agree with Murkwood here.


And yet we still buy oil from them. Allow them to invest., etc., etc.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:24 pm

Asterdan wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:I'm not American, but I'm rooting for Hillary.

The reasons why I support her are quite simple. The Republican candidates are pitiful, I don't foresee any better candidates coming from the Democrat Party, Hillary's political views seem more or less acceptable, and I happen to find her likable.

Hopefully she wins, I think she'd do well in office.


:rofl:

Oh... you were serious?

So you're voting Republican I take it?

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Postby Asterdan » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:26 pm

Genivaria wrote:
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:rofl:

Oh... you were serious?

So you're voting Republican I take it?


Yet to see a Democrat or a Republican candidate that I can support without hating myself.
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Postby Hentar » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:29 pm

Yes lets have a president who is okay with adultery.

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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:30 pm

Hentar wrote:Yes lets have a president who is okay with adultery.

Just like the last 44?

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:34 pm

What I like most about this thread is being able to get back at all those Americans who voted for UKIP in the UK election thread poll.
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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:35 pm

L Ron Cupboard wrote:What I like most about this thread is being able to get back at all those Americans who voted for UKIP in the UK election thread poll.

BNP, that's me!

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:41 pm

Hentar wrote:Yes lets have a president who is okay with adultery.

Fine by me. I'd actually prefer presidents who are okay with things that totally aren't crimes.
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Postby Galmarch » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:41 pm

Sounds good, dont know that much about the other candidates but she seems like a reasonable choice.
Not an american though so I can not vote.
Will be interesting this presidential race. Will be interesting to experience it first hand and not via international news like I've been used to.
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:36 pm

Hentar wrote:Yes lets have a president who is okay with adultery.


So you'd rather have Jindal or Cruz? They're not okay with adultery...but bombing Muslims and oppressing gays is just fine by them. Adultery shouldn't be your deal breaker....
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:36 pm

nd so, from the dormant volcano that is American politics, out flies Hillary, like Rodan the Flying Reptile pretending to be Granny Goose. Now that she is officially flapping around the electorate, the excitable mainstream press reports the initial caw-caw-cawing of her campaign: it will be “based on diversity, discipline and humbleness.” These are endearing qualities in any giant flying reptile, and reassuring to voters who might otherwise fear something a bit darker on the wing. :?:


Yeah that about sums it up. From


http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/shes-back/
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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:38 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:nd so, from the dormant volcano that is American politics, out flies Hillary, like Rodan the Flying Reptile pretending to be Granny Goose. Now that she is officially flapping around the electorate, the excitable mainstream press reports the initial caw-caw-cawing of her campaign: it will be “based on diversity, discipline and humbleness.” These are endearing qualities in any giant flying reptile, and reassuring to voters who might otherwise fear something a bit darker on the wing. :?:


Yeah that about sums it up. From


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Postby Atlanticatia » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:39 pm

My mom and aunt have already told me that I better support Hillary. :p
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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:40 pm

Atlanticatia wrote:My mom and aunt have already told me that I better support Hillary. :p

Psh, support who you want to. My father was an ardent Republican, my mother a stalwart Independent. I ended up telling them both to jump a bridge the first time I voted.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:40 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:
Hentar wrote:Yes lets have a president who is okay with adultery.


So you'd rather have Jindal or Cruz? They're not okay with adultery...but bombing Muslims and oppressing gays is just fine by them. Adultery shouldn't be your deal breaker....

Judging by Clinton's vote history, bombing Muslims is A-OK with her and she only wins on the 'oppressing gays' front because she prefers interfering with everyone's civil rights equally. Which isn't exactly something to be commended for.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:42 pm

Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:nd so, from the dormant volcano that is American politics, out flies Hillary, like Rodan the Flying Reptile pretending to be Granny Goose. Now that she is officially flapping around the electorate, the excitable mainstream press reports the initial caw-caw-cawing of her campaign: it will be “based on diversity, discipline and humbleness.” These are endearing qualities in any giant flying reptile, and reassuring to voters who might otherwise fear something a bit darker on the wing. :?:


Yeah that about sums it up. From


http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/shes-back/

A second Civil War for America?

Not quite sure if sane.

I didn't read that into the piece. More that hillary is a machine politician, and the machine is. Very disfunctional
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:43 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire wrote:A second Civil War for America?

Not quite sure if sane.

I didn't read that into the piece. More that hillary is a machine politician, and the machine is. Very disfunctional

Oh, the section where he talks about 1856, when the Whig party went away and the Republicans came into power as the Democrats endorsed slavery and state's rights. His comment was that we (as a nation) had to endure a schism, and we likely won't survive a second.

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Postby Sanctissima » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:46 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
The United Territories of Providence wrote:
So you'd rather have Jindal or Cruz? They're not okay with adultery...but bombing Muslims and oppressing gays is just fine by them. Adultery shouldn't be your deal breaker....

Judging by Clinton's vote history, bombing Muslims is A-OK with her and she only wins on the 'oppressing gays' front because she prefers interfering with everyone's civil rights equally. Which isn't exactly something to be commended for.


What impediment to civil rights?

Are you talking about gun laws, because that's pretty much the norm for Democrat candidates. Considering the psychotic crap her current competitors want to get enacted as laws, she's pretty moderate.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:50 pm

Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I didn't read that into the piece. More that hillary is a machine politician, and the machine is. Very disfunctional

Oh, the section where he talks about 1856, when the Whig party went away and the Republicans came into power as the Democrats endorsed slavery and state's rights. His comment was that we (as a nation) had to endure a schism, and we likely won't survive a second.

Last paragraph, I see it. I thought that was a "no third party can save us" type of comment.
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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:52 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire wrote:Oh, the section where he talks about 1856, when the Whig party went away and the Republicans came into power as the Democrats endorsed slavery and state's rights. His comment was that we (as a nation) had to endure a schism, and we likely won't survive a second.

Last paragraph, I see it. I thought that was a "no third party can save us" type of comment.

Interesting, I can see that interpretation.

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Postby Consumer Regulated Donuts » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:03 pm

I could get behind Hillary. Republican candidates range on a scale from meh to puke worthy so far, and the Democrats aren't too much better right now. She doesn't seem insane or too irrational. I hate voting for (well I can't really say that, this will be my first election I'm allowed to vote in) a candidate I'm not completely behind, but I'm really terrified of what Christie or Cruz could do in office.

I'm Independant by the way.
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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:09 pm

Consumer Regulated Donuts wrote:I could get behind Hillary. Republican candidates range on a scale from meh to puke worthy so far, and the Democrats aren't too much better right now. She doesn't seem insane or too irrational. I hate voting for (well I can't really say that, this will be my first election I'm allowed to vote in) a candidate I'm not completely behind, but I'm really terrified of what Christie or Cruz could do in office.

I'm Independant by the way.

I really wouldn't get behind Hillary.

I'm just not that into her.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:11 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Judging by Clinton's vote history, bombing Muslims is A-OK with her and she only wins on the 'oppressing gays' front because she prefers interfering with everyone's civil rights equally. Which isn't exactly something to be commended for.


What impediment to civil rights?

Are you talking about gun laws, because that's pretty much the norm for Democrat candidates. Considering the psychotic crap her current competitors want to get enacted as laws, she's pretty moderate.

More the Patriot act, domestic spying, and condemnation of whistleblowers. But her position on firearms is also in there as well. In addition to her opposition to the electoral college (these are in descending order of seriousness, in case that wasn't obvious).
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Postby Consumer Regulated Donuts » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:12 pm

Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire wrote:
Consumer Regulated Donuts wrote:I could get behind Hillary. Republican candidates range on a scale from meh to puke worthy so far, and the Democrats aren't too much better right now. She doesn't seem insane or too irrational. I hate voting for (well I can't really say that, this will be my first election I'm allowed to vote in) a candidate I'm not completely behind, but I'm really terrified of what Christie or Cruz could do in office.

I'm Independant by the way.

I really wouldn't get behind Hillary.

I'm just not that into her.


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