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Do you support Hillary Clinton? What will be the 1# issue of 2016?

Yes, I support Hillary Clinton.
173
20%
No, I do not support Hillary Clinton.
300
34%
Healthcare
16
2%
Foreign Policy (ISIL,Iran,Yemen,Russia etc.)
134
15%
Debt/Deficit
22
3%
Economy (Unemployment,Wages,Trade, Taxes etc)
120
14%
Immigration
15
2%
Climate Change
24
3%
Civil Rights & Civil Liberties
55
6%
Other
13
1%
 
Total votes : 872

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Postby Norstal » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:39 am

Ranoria wrote:If she IS elected, there's an AR-15 round with her name on it.

Are you talking about Clinton's name?
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Postby Tyrandel » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:45 am

Well, her advertisement with the small child who is going to be in a fish costume won me over.

That and the complete lack of other acceptable choices. Keyword: acceptable. None of them, not even Clinton, is someone I actually want as President. I'd rather someone in the fashion of Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Or Eugene V. Debs.

I'm expecting the election to center around foreign affairs, what with the Iran letter and ISIS.
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Postby Corunia and Mironor » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:51 am

Tyrandel wrote:None of them, not even Clinton, is someone I actually want as President. I'd rather someone in the fashion of Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Or Eugene V. Debs.

I agree
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:54 am

Tyrandel wrote:Well, her advertisement with the small child who is going to be in a fish costume won me over.

That and the complete lack of other acceptable choices. Keyword: acceptable. None of them, not even Clinton, is someone I actually want as President. I'd rather someone in the fashion of Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Or Eugene V. Debs.

I'm expecting the election to center around foreign affairs, what with the Iran letter and ISIS.

American elections decided by foreign policy? We're talking about the US here. The only presidential elections won because of 'foreign policy' were won by Washington, Jackson, Grant, Eisenhower and Roosevelt, because they fought in wars. That's the extent that foreign policy influences US elections.
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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:47 am

Ranoria wrote:If she IS elected, there's an AR-15 round with her name on it.

Ah yes. Following in the tradition of John Wilkes Booth I see.
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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:48 am

Stormwind-City wrote:
Ranoria wrote:If she IS elected, there's an AR-15 round with her name on it.

Ah yes. Following in the tradition of John Wilkes Booth I see.

But other than that, President Clinton, how was the play?

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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:14 am

Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire wrote:
Stormwind-City wrote:Ah yes. Following in the tradition of John Wilkes Booth I see.

But other than that, President Clinton, how was the play?

Quite good. It was a comedy about an attempt to assassinate a world leader when they visit a public event.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:18 am

Stormwind-City wrote:
Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire wrote:But other than that, President Clinton, how was the play?

Quite good. It was a comedy about an attempt to assassinate a world leader when they visit a public event.

Was he Russian?
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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:18 am

Genivaria wrote:
Stormwind-City wrote:Quite good. It was a comedy about an attempt to assassinate a world leader when they visit a public event.

Was he Russian?

John Wilkes Booth?

With a name like that, how could he be anything but Russian?

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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:21 am

Genivaria wrote:
Stormwind-City wrote:Quite good. It was a comedy about an attempt to assassinate a world leader when they visit a public event.

Was he Russian?

The assassin or world leader? The world leader was an ethnic Kenyan who was a rabbi and dictator over North Korea.
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Postby Asterdan » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:25 am

She supported the Iraq War. Her entire "career" has been based on lies. I can't stand Obama, but I'd vote to give him a third term over giving Hillary even half of a term.
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Postby Atlanticatia » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:40 am

I'm interested to see what issues she will run on. Childcare? Family leave? What will she do about the ACA? etc.
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:57 am

Atlanticatia wrote:I'm interested to see what issues she will run on. Childcare? Family leave? What will she do about the ACA? etc.


She'll probably expand the ACA to a one payer system, in my opinion. Not fond of her but, there are worst democrats that can run.
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Postby Atlanticatia » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:03 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:I'm interested to see what issues she will run on. Childcare? Family leave? What will she do about the ACA? etc.


She'll probably expand the ACA to a one payer system, in my opinion. Not fond of her but, there are worst democrats that can run.


Do you mean single payer? I don't think Hillary would do that. Her health care plan in the 90s wasn't single payer(Health Security Act), and single payer is only really supported by the Progressive Democrats. Her plan was a bit more robust version of Obamacare - it had a much stricter mandate (i.e. you couldn't opt out and pay a tax penalty), stricter regulations regarding benefits and plans, etc.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:04 am

Ranoria wrote:If she IS elected, there's an AR-15 round with her name on it.


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Postby Sanctissima » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:06 am

I'm not American, but I'm rooting for Hillary.

The reasons why I support her are quite simple. The Republican candidates are pitiful, I don't foresee any better candidates coming from the Democrat Party, Hillary's political views seem more or less acceptable, and I happen to find her likable.

Hopefully she wins, I think she'd do well in office.

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Postby Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:07 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ranoria wrote:If she IS elected, there's an AR-15 round with her name on it.


Your ITG powers will not work here.

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Postby Atlanticatia » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:09 am

I do like that Hillary seems a bit more 'modern' and a bit more progressive than her 2008 campaign, but I still want someone to challenge her from the left..maybe Elizabeth Warren, Martin O'Malley, or Bernie Sanders.
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:26 am

Atlanticatia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
She'll probably expand the ACA to a one payer system, in my opinion. Not fond of her but, there are worst democrats that can run.


Do you mean single payer? I don't think Hillary would do that. Her health care plan in the 90s wasn't single payer(Health Security Act), and single payer is only really supported by the Progressive Democrats. Her plan was a bit more robust version of Obamacare - it had a much stricter mandate (i.e. you couldn't opt out and pay a tax penalty), stricter regulations regarding benefits and plans, etc.


Yeah, that's what I meant.
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Postby Asterdan » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:39 am

Sanctissima wrote:I'm not American, but I'm rooting for Hillary.

The reasons why I support her are quite simple. The Republican candidates are pitiful, I don't foresee any better candidates coming from the Democrat Party, Hillary's political views seem more or less acceptable, and I happen to find her likable.

Hopefully she wins, I think she'd do well in office.


:rofl:

Oh... you were serious?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:43 am

Asterdan wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:I'm not American, but I'm rooting for Hillary.

The reasons why I support her are quite simple. The Republican candidates are pitiful, I don't foresee any better candidates coming from the Democrat Party, Hillary's political views seem more or less acceptable, and I happen to find her likable.

Hopefully she wins, I think she'd do well in office.


:rofl:

Oh... you were serious?


Oh and who do you think should be in office?
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Postby Asterdan » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:46 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Asterdan wrote:
:rofl:

Oh... you were serious?


Oh and who do you think should be in office?


So far I'm yet to see a candidate that I support. I would prefer just about anyone over Hillary, whose career has been full of lies, corruption and cover-ups.

I find it funny that people still hate on Republicans that supported the Iraq War, but are quick to forgive people like Hillary, who has even said that she does not regret voting in favor of it.
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Postby Sanctissima » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:57 am

Asterdan wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh and who do you think should be in office?


So far I'm yet to see a candidate that I support. I would prefer just about anyone over Hillary, whose career has been full of lies, corruption and cover-ups.

I find it funny that people still hate on Republicans that supported the Iraq War, but are quick to forgive people like Hillary, who has even said that she does not regret voting in favor of it.


My disdain for the current Republican candidates goes far beyond whether or not they supported the Iraq War.

My disdain for them largely comes from the fact that they're educated idiots. By that, I mean that they're all educated people (for the most part) who nonetheless support stupid policies and antiquated social ideologies. I mean, just look at some of these candidates: Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, etc. All complete and utter morons. It's a tragedy, really.

Thus, the reason why I support Hillary. She's level-headed, is likable, and her political views aren't over-the-top insane.

She's not perfect, but she'll do.

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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:58 am

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The Black Forrest wrote:
*shrugs* depends on your viewpoints.

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Postby Kelinfort » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:58 am

Asterdan wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:I'm not American, but I'm rooting for Hillary.

The reasons why I support her are quite simple. The Republican candidates are pitiful, I don't foresee any better candidates coming from the Democrat Party, Hillary's political views seem more or less acceptable, and I happen to find her likable.

Hopefully she wins, I think she'd do well in office.


:rofl:

Oh... you were serious?

Compared to the Republican's opposition, yes.

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