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Do you support Hillary Clinton? What will be the 1# issue of 2016?

Yes, I support Hillary Clinton.
173
20%
No, I do not support Hillary Clinton.
300
34%
Healthcare
16
2%
Foreign Policy (ISIL,Iran,Yemen,Russia etc.)
134
15%
Debt/Deficit
22
3%
Economy (Unemployment,Wages,Trade, Taxes etc)
120
14%
Immigration
15
2%
Climate Change
24
3%
Civil Rights & Civil Liberties
55
6%
Other
13
1%
 
Total votes : 872

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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:37 pm

Vettrera wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:I agree with that statement. That does not mean homosexuals have the right to marry.

Do you mean have the rights to a government supported wedding, or have the rights to have a Christian-supported wedding?

Veering back on topic, the gay marriage train is rolling through and it's not in the interest of the Democrats or especially Republicans to stop it.

There is no right to a government supported marriage.
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United Russian Soviet States wrote:I agree with that statement. That does not mean homosexuals have the right to marry.

Then obviously you disagree with it.

The Founding Fathers would have agreed with me. Liberals seem to want to change the interpretation.
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Postby Utceforp » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:39 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Vettrera wrote:Do you mean have the rights to a government supported wedding, or have the rights to have a Christian-supported wedding?

Veering back on topic, the gay marriage train is rolling through and it's not in the interest of the Democrats or especially Republicans to stop it.

There is no right to a government supported marriage.
Napkiraly wrote:Then obviously you disagree with it.

The Founding Fathers would have agreed with me. Liberals seem to want to change the interpretation.

The Founding Fathers were fallible humans, and lived over two hundred years ago. Not all of their views are correct.
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Postby Vettrera » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:41 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Vettrera wrote:Do you mean have the rights to a government supported wedding, or have the rights to have a Christian-supported wedding?

Veering back on topic, the gay marriage train is rolling through and it's not in the interest of the Democrats or especially Republicans to stop it.

There is no right to a government supported marriage.
Napkiraly wrote:Then obviously you disagree with it.

The Founding Fathers would have agreed with me. Liberals seem to want to change the interpretation.

Apparently heteros get it. So I think it's fair that gays get it too.

The founding fathers also seemed not too concerned with slavery, though that didn't fall under "All men are created equal". Obviously the founding fathers aren't the bastions for freedom, fairness, and liberty that conservative white males tend to make them out to be. The word of the founding fathers is not without fault, and the idea that they did not hold archaic and outdated views on some concepts is ridiculous. Saying the founding fathers agreed with you is like saying you are living 300 years in the past. Which you are....
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:42 pm

meh, regardless i don't support her on the gun rights issue, which, especially considering her opinion on law-abiding citizens, is valid.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:45 pm

Vettrera wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:I agree with that statement. That does not mean homosexuals have the right to marry.

Do you mean have the rights to a government supported wedding, or have the rights to have a Christian-supported wedding?

Veering back on topic, the gay marriage train is rolling through and it's not in the interest of the Democrats or especially Republicans to stop it.

Even young Republicans tend to support same sex marriage, the debate is over and the anti-equality folks lost.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:45 pm

I have a strong dislike of Hillary Clinton. I hope Rand Paul owns her in the election!
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:51 pm

Ranoria wrote:If she IS elected, there's an AR-15 round with her name on it.


With language like that, secret service probably have a few dozen for you as well.
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Postby The Dragon Realms Empire » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:55 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:I have a strong dislike of Hillary Clinton. I hope Rand Paul owns her in the election!

Personally I hope Sanders owns her in the preliminaries but that is highly unlikely.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:55 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:
Ranoria wrote:If she IS elected, there's an AR-15 round with her name on it.


With language like that, secret service probably have a few dozen for you as well.

Oh yeah, the Clintons are entitled to Secret Service protection.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:57 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:I have a strong dislike of Hillary Clinton. I hope Rand Paul owns her in the election!

With how he's been treating journalists lately he's got no chance.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:58 pm

The Dragon Realms Empire wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:I have a strong dislike of Hillary Clinton. I hope Rand Paul owns her in the election!

Personally I hope Sanders owns her in the preliminaries but that is highly unlikely.

It would be better for the GOP if Sanders is the nominee. They would easily defeat the socialist.
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Postby The Dragon Realms Empire » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:00 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
The Dragon Realms Empire wrote:Personally I hope Sanders owns her in the preliminaries but that is highly unlikely.

It would be better for the GOP if Sanders is the nominee. They would easily defeat the socialist.

That's what you think.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:01 pm

The Dragon Realms Empire wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:It would be better for the GOP if Sanders is the nominee. They would easily defeat the socialist.

That's what you think.

America will never have a socialist president! We fought to hard in the Cold War against the fucking Soviets to allow that to happen.
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Postby Vettrera » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:04 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
The Dragon Realms Empire wrote:That's what you think.

America will never have a socialist president! We fought to hard in the Cold War against the fucking Soviets to allow that to happen.

I don't think socialist means what you think it means...
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:05 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Vettrera wrote:Do you mean have the rights to a government supported wedding, or have the rights to have a Christian-supported wedding?

Veering back on topic, the gay marriage train is rolling through and it's not in the interest of the Democrats or especially Republicans to stop it.

There is no right to a government supported marriage.
Napkiraly wrote:Then obviously you disagree with it.

The Founding Fathers would have agreed with me. Liberals seem to want to change the interpretation.

The Founding Fathers are men who died over two centuries ago in a different era and also tended to be rather fallible a number of times. Stop trying to deify them.

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Postby The Dragon Realms Empire » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:05 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
The Dragon Realms Empire wrote:That's what you think.

America will never have a socialist president! We fought to hard in the Cold War against the fucking Soviets to allow that to happen.

Never say Never.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:07 pm

The Dragon Realms Empire wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:It would be better for the GOP if Sanders is the nominee. They would easily defeat the socialist.

That's what you think.

To be fair he's pretty spot on. Sanders is a self-proclaimed socialist and that alone would turn a number of independents and even a number of democrats against voting for him.

Plus Sanders is better suited to the Senate. The US needs him there far more than it does in the White House.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:07 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Vettrera wrote:Do you mean have the rights to a government supported wedding, or have the rights to have a Christian-supported wedding?

Veering back on topic, the gay marriage train is rolling through and it's not in the interest of the Democrats or especially Republicans to stop it.

There is no right to a government supported marriage.
Napkiraly wrote:Then obviously you disagree with it.

The Founding Fathers would have agreed with me. Liberals seem to want to change the interpretation.

There is no right to anti-discrimination laws. If people want to discriminate against Blacks, they should be able to.

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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:07 pm

The Dragon Realms Empire wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:America will never have a socialist president! We fought to hard in the Cold War against the fucking Soviets to allow that to happen.

Never say Never.

I will. This song would be relevant if Sanders ran:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XxYwWg7F8I
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:08 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:There is no right to a government supported marriage.
The Founding Fathers would have agreed with me. Liberals seem to want to change the interpretation.

There is no right to anti-discrimination laws. If people want to discriminate against Blacks, they should be able to.

Or Christians for that matter.

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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:08 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
The Dragon Realms Empire wrote:That's what you think.

America will never have a socialist president! We fought to hard in the Cold War against the fucking Soviets to allow that to happen.


We enslaved people of color and denied women the vote too....Black President down, Female President coming soon....anything is possible in the land of opportunity.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:09 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:America will never have a socialist president! We fought to hard in the Cold War against the fucking Soviets to allow that to happen.


We enslaved people of color and denied women the vote too....Black President down, Female President coming soon....anything is possible in the land of opportunity.

I would rather have Sarah Palin be the female President.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:10 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
The Dragon Realms Empire wrote:That's what you think.

America will never have a socialist president! We fought to hard in the Cold War against the fucking Soviets to allow that to happen.


Even granting your hysterical interpretation of Progressive Caucus member being a "socialist" ... electing a socialist president wouldn't make the US into the Soviet Union.

I mean look at France. They have a literal Socialist Party president and they haven't thrown all the journalists in the gulag or stolen all the peasants' chickens have they?
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:10 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:America will never have a socialist president! We fought to hard in the Cold War against the fucking Soviets to allow that to happen.


Even granting your hysterical interpretation of Progressive Caucus member being a "socialist" ... electing a socialist president wouldn't make the US into the Soviet Union.

I mean look at France. They have a literal Socialist Party president and they haven't thrown all the journalists in the gulag or stolen all the peasants' chickens have they?

They have not.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:11 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:America will never have a socialist president! We fought to hard in the Cold War against the fucking Soviets to allow that to happen.


Even granting your hysterical interpretation of Progressive Caucus member being a "socialist" ... electing a socialist president wouldn't make the US into the Soviet Union.

I mean look at France. They have a literal Socialist Party president and they haven't thrown all the journalists in the gulag or stolen all the peasants' chickens have they?

Nor have they nationalised everything or demanded that all business be run by worker's councils.

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