Free the nipple:should women be able to go topless in public

[Sun Wukong]

Cosplay girls.

Not all cosplay girls wear skimpy, leathery, tight strings.

No, just my favorites.

What's your point?

[Scomagia]

The only real objections anyone brings up are the pointless sexualization of the female body, and some go so far as to shame women for having breasts and making them all horny and stuff. Its the ones who are doing that that have the problem and I am getting pretty tired of them projecting that onto all the other men in this thread. You're being pigs, all of you.

Yeah, I don't particularly like how this thread has gone, in that regard.

[SaintB]

The only real objections anyone brings up are the pointless sexualization of the female body, and some go so far as to shame women for having breasts and making them all horny and stuff. Its the ones who are doing that that have the problem and I am getting pretty tired of them projecting that onto all the other men in this thread. You're being pigs, all of you.

Yeah, I don't particularly like how this thread has gone, in that regard.

Its so common in this thread that I am taking my leave of it before I begin personally flaming people.

[Reploid Productions]

I don't see a guy walking down the street with a mini-skirt so high, his balls are sticking out

Man-Faye. Not linking a pic. Even the ones that might not be NSFW are Not Safe For Sanity.

[Arkhane]

Not all cosplay girls wear skimpy, leathery, tight strings.

No, just my favorites.

What's your point?

I don't even know how cosplay got into this..

[Novorobo]

People in Saudi Arabia have. They are almost completely covered in clothes. In fact, Hot weather usually means you are more prone to sunburn, and nudity compounds that problem.

See my response below. Also, why do you keep talking about nudity?

Isn't bright-coloured clothing better for that if only for being less absorptive to sun rays than skin?

No. For one, the sun doesn't have to be out for it to be hot.

Where are you referring to that it's that it's too hot for even a bra even after sunset? Last but not least, if they have reasons for going topless, why would they avoid giving them with this whole "don't have to explain my reasons" thing at all?

That said, none of this requires the rules against toplessness to be repealed completely, an exception above a given outdoor temperature could be worked into them.

[Scomagia]

So you automatically associate a woman acting with free agency to be seeking attention and, therefore, not to be respected. That's very, very telling.

Look at facebook.

So you don't respect a woman's right to express herself physically and see women who do so as not deserving of your respect.

You'd fit in quite well in certain backwards and repressive nations.

[Scomagia]

Yeah, I don't particularly like how this thread has gone, in that regard.

Its so common in this thread that I am taking my leave of it before I begin personally flaming people.

Same. I'm done here.

[Arkhane]

I don't see a guy walking down the street with a mini-skirt so high, his balls are sticking out

Man-Faye. Not linking a pic. Even the ones that might not be NSFW are Not Safe For Sanity.

This is exactly my point, not everything can be decent, just because people are free..

[Nazi Flower Power]

I'm not about to go wandering around topless either way, but it would still make sense for the law to be gender-neutral. If it causes a problem in some places, just tell everyone to put their shirts on in those places.

[Novorobo]

I'm not about to go wandering around topless either way, but it would still make sense for the law to be gender-neutral. If it causes a problem in some places, just tell everyone to put their shirts on in those places.

Biology isn't really gender-neutral though.

[Arkhane]

Look at facebook.

So you don't respect a woman's right to express herself physically and see women who do so as not deserving of your respect.

You'd fit in quite well in certain backwards and repressive nations.

I'm saying that women who are....generous tend to be disrespected more often than those who are covered, in case you don't know, a large part of the male population are horny perverts. Most women who took boob pics of themselves to send to admirers often wonder, "Why are men only interested in sex?"

[Sun Wukong]

No, just my favorites.

What's your point?

I don't even know how cosplay got into this..

Well, you were saying that all women who dress provocatively were, de facto, skanks. When, in reality, some are geeks, or dating geeks. This really wasn't that hard of a conversation to keep up with, it hasn't even been a full page since it started.

Ultimately this is of little consequence, however. A woman's decency is not a function of her modesty. Sluts, and I use this term in an entirely sex-positive manner, are often lovely people.

You think you degrade them with your rhetoric, but you only degrade yourself.

[Sun Wukong]

I'm not about to go wandering around topless either way, but it would still make sense for the law to be gender-neutral. If it causes a problem in some places, just tell everyone to put their shirts on in those places.

Biology isn't really gender-neutral though.

Nipples are pretty gender neutral.

[Novorobo]

Biology isn't really gender-neutral though.

Nipples are pretty gender neutral.

Not in terms of their effects on the opposite sex.

[Fartsniffage]

Biology isn't really gender-neutral though.

Nipples are pretty gender neutral.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-OwMoAsP38

[Arkhane]

I don't even know how cosplay got into this..

Well, you were saying that all women who dress provocatively were, de facto, skanks. When, in reality, some are geeks, or dating geeks. This really wasn't that hard of a conversation to keep up with, it hasn't even been a full page since it started.

Ultimately this is of little consequence, however. A woman's decency is not a function of her modesty. Sluts, and I use this term in an entirely sex-positive manner, are often lovely people.

You think you degrade them with your rhetoric, but you only degrade yourself.

are you saying being a cosplayer or dating a geek automatically makes you not a skank. It sounds really more like an excuse to whore-out, just like Halloween. Sluts are often lovely people? Who's degrading who?

[Reploid Productions]

If I have to see guys wandering around with shirtless triple-D moobs, I should damn well be able to air my breasts if I want to. (Not that I personally would, because I like support, thankyouverymuch! Bouncing hurts!)

[Torisakia]

Right, because women who dare bare more skin than society deems appropriate are totally skanks.

Yes, they are, find me a decent woman that dresses like a slut in public.

You called? I'm not a female but I dress like a slut in public and my mom says I'm decent. *shrugs*

If I have to see guys wandering around with shirtless triple-D moobs, I should damn well be able to air my breasts if I want to. (Not that I personally would, because I like support, thankyouverymuch! Bouncing hurts!)

What if I have Gynecomastia and can't help it?

[Korouse]

If I have to see guys wandering around with shirtless triple-D moobs, I should damn well be able to air my breasts if I want to. (Not that I personally would, because I like support, thankyouverymuch! Bouncing hurts!)

But I thought mine were attractive?!

[Sun Wukong]

Nipples are pretty gender neutral.

Not in terms of their effects on the opposite sex.

Yes, because a well-built male chest does nothing for heterosexual women.

[Scomagia]

Not in terms of their effects on the opposite sex.

Yes, because a well-built male chest does nothing for heterosexual women.

Women are sexually submissive and reactive, didn't you know? They don't have sexual thoughts. *nods*

[Reploid Productions]

If I have to see guys wandering around with shirtless triple-D moobs, I should damn well be able to air my breasts if I want to. (Not that I personally would, because I like support, thankyouverymuch! Bouncing hurts!)

But I thought mine were attractive?!

Amusingly, I think everybody should be required to take a life drawing class in, like, high school. Break 'em in early enough and "OMG NEKKID!" loses all impact remarkably fast. I certainly recall freaking out in junior college about "OMG, there's gonna be nude models for this class ew!" Three weeks and 3 different models of varying physical attractiveness/lack thereof? "Meh."

The whole "But boobies make men act badly/get into wrecks/hurt themselves/etc" argument really only has any weight in that there is this whole huge taboo about the naked body. If nudity or even just topless is allowed, that will go away. As it stands, it's the forbidden fruit; take that mystique away and it will lose its effect.

[Arkhane]

Yes, they are, find me a decent woman that dresses like a slut in public.

You called? I'm not a female but I dress like a slut in public and my mom says I'm decent. *shrugs*

That's because you'r mom is a slut too.

[Fanosolia]

Yes, because a well-built male chest does nothing for heterosexual women.

Women are sexually submissive and reactive, didn't you know? They don't have sexual thoughts. *nods*

I know this is hardcore sarcasm, but submissive=not having sexual thought to some?