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by Greater Soviet Ukraine » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:57 pm

by The Sotoan Union » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:57 pm
Torisakia wrote:Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Sure. Of course, businesses should be able to decide whether or not topless women can enter their establishment. In public places, I have nothing against topless women walking around. Some may think it's gross, others may think it's sexy, some may think it's morally wrong. Ultimately, it is a woman's choice.
Would that include businesses also not allowing topless men in their establishment? It would have to, wouldn't it?

by Greater Soviet Ukraine » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:59 pm

by Greater Soviet Ukraine » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:59 pm

by Torisakia » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:00 pm

by Torisakia » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:00 pm
Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:Guys. Unless you are super sexy, who would want to be topless anyway. (Male or female?)

by Greater Soviet Ukraine » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:03 pm

by Keyboard Warriors » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:05 pm

by The Rich Port » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:06 pm
Keyboard Warriors wrote:You rarely, if ever, see guys walking around topless anywhere but the beach, and considering that a lot of women prefer to wear some sort of breast-restraining (for want of a better term) top anyway. I'm sorry to break it to you all, but allowing female toplessness is not going to cause the smorgasbord of bare boobies which some appear to be hanging out for.

by Keyboard Warriors » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:09 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Keyboard Warriors wrote:You rarely, if ever, see guys walking around topless anywhere but the beach, and considering that a lot of women prefer to wear some sort of breast-restraining (for want of a better term) top anyway. I'm sorry to break it to you all, but allowing female toplessness is not going to cause the smorgasbord of bare boobies which some appear to be hanging out for.
It's almost like we haven't said "that's not the point" 500 times in this thread.

by The Rich Port » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:10 pm

by Harelia » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:11 pm


by Keyboard Warriors » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:12 pm


by Dyakovo » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:15 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Keyboard Warriors wrote:You rarely, if ever, see guys walking around topless anywhere but the beach, and considering that a lot of women prefer to wear some sort of breast-restraining (for want of a better term) top anyway. I'm sorry to break it to you all, but allowing female toplessness is not going to cause the smorgasbord of bare boobies which some appear to be hanging out for.
It's almost like we haven't said "that's not the point" 500 times in this thread.

by Greater Soviet Ukraine » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:16 pm

by Keyboard Warriors » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:16 pm
Harelia wrote:But seriously, the argument many pro-nudists seem to make here is out of the same greed and selfishness that they claim is being used against them.
It reduces the crime rates of rape, obviously.
It helps to shield the youth of the nation, which is especially important, unless you want the kid to grow and be a rapist thinking it's okay to get grabby hands on naked folk.
But ultimately it helps to suppress sexual urges by putting sexual organs out of sight. Breasts have, since the dawn of man, been sexualized. It's literally science. A group of men didn't just sit down at a table four years ago and go "...You know this might sound taboo. But I REALLY like tits."

by Harelia » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:19 pm
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Harelia wrote:But seriously, the argument many pro-nudists seem to make here is out of the same greed and selfishness that they claim is being used against them.
The argument I see being made revolves around that men are allowed to walk bare-chested in public and women are not, as in your sex decides on what level the law applies to you. I'm going to take the liberty of assuming that you agree that laws should not be different for men and women, so what precisely is selfish or greedy about wanting to receive the same treatment as everybody else?It reduces the crime rates of rape, obviously.
Let's not go there. Rape is caused by rapists and nothing more.It helps to shield the youth of the nation, which is especially important, unless you want the kid to grow and be a rapist thinking it's okay to get grabby hands on naked folk.
I'm unaware of any child being raised thinking it's okay to get grabby with any stranger, dressed or not?But ultimately it helps to suppress sexual urges by putting sexual organs out of sight. Breasts have, since the dawn of man, been sexualized. It's literally science. A group of men didn't just sit down at a table four years ago and go "...You know this might sound taboo. But I REALLY like tits."
We already sexualize each other when wearing clothes. I highly doubt the presence of a few more tits on the beach will push us over the edge.

by Dyakovo » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:20 pm
Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:Guys. Unless you are super sexy, who would want to be topless anyway. (Male or female?)

by Keyboard Warriors » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:20 pm
Harelia wrote:Keyboard Warriors wrote:The argument I see being made revolves around that men are allowed to walk bare-chested in public and women are not, as in your sex decides on what level the law applies to you. I'm going to take the liberty of assuming that you agree that laws should not be different for men and women, so what precisely is selfish or greedy about wanting to receive the same treatment as everybody else?
Let's not go there. Rape is caused by rapists and nothing more.
I'm unaware of any child being raised thinking it's okay to get grabby with any stranger, dressed or not?
We already sexualize each other when wearing clothes. I highly doubt the presence of a few more tits on the beach will push us over the edge.
That's some impressive trolling. But I shall not fall for your attempts to enrage me with a purposeful lack of logic in your post!
/butthurt
....Aaaaaww...

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