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Should women be allowed to 'go topless' in areas where men are allowed the same privilege?

Yes
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No
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Furry Alairia and Algeria
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:35 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Surely some of us have better things to do than continue this back and forth silliness. I know I do.

Not you.

Being forced to see naked people when they do not want to can also be interpreted as sexual harassment.

Not really.
But hey, some people feel they have to go around doing so because 'freedoms'.

People purposely sexually harass others?
Then I have yet to see anything on this.
See folks, it all goes circular here

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Postby Spoder » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:35 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Spoder wrote:You're quoting a joking post as a source for breasts being exposed being dangerous?

What about muscular, attractive men? Isn't it dangerous for them to just exist in general then?


I said being topless should be banned in general (and everyone should wear biohazard suits). What do you people not understand?

Nobody can see muscles through a shirt?
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Postby New haven america » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:35 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
New haven america wrote:That's flawed logic, you can be taught how to drive and control a car, even though accidents happen.

Breast do literally nothing dangerous, they're mammary glands used to feed children.


Apparently not:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm all for topless women! Though I don't think I'd be able to drive anywhere if it happened. :p

You're quoting a joke post as an argument.

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:36 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:I honestly don't care, go nuts throw your shirt off practice whatever religion you want . We should make equal wages were equals I don't care if your black, Asian white a woman. I honestly don't even care for rasicism I think it's archaic, I feel in this modern world racism and gender inequality just drive us apart, why does everyone care so much.


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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:37 pm

New haven america wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:
Apparently not:

You're quoting a joke post as an argument.

Cangradu-fucking-lations, you can't read joke over the internet.

I feel sorry for the person who was quoted now.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:37 pm

My conservatism says no, but the fact that I'm a teenager says hell yes, so I don't know. I guess yes.
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Postby High Germany » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:38 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:I honestly don't care, go nuts throw your shirt off practice whatever religion you want . We should make equal wages were equals I don't care if your black, Asian white a woman. I honestly don't even care for rasicism I think it's archaic, I feel in this modern world racism and gender inequality just drive us apart, why does everyone care so much.


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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:38 pm

They should, that is what freedom implies.

I support insanely high tax rates, do you?
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:38 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Polar Svalbard wrote:I honestly don't care, go nuts throw your shirt off practice whatever religion you want . We should make equal wages were equals I don't care if your black, Asian white a woman. I honestly don't even care for rasicism I think it's archaic, I feel in this modern world racism and gender inequality just drive us apart, why does everyone care so much.


This thread isn't about racism OR religious beliefs.

But it treads on the line of civil right I'm just bringing my pov forward and it's just that I don't care, I have my life you have yours, you wants your breasts out fine by me idc.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:38 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Polar Svalbard wrote:I honestly don't care, go nuts throw your shirt off practice whatever religion you want . We should make equal wages were equals I don't care if your black, Asian white a woman. I honestly don't even care for rasicism I think it's archaic, I feel in this modern world racism and gender inequality just drive us apart, why does everyone care so much.


This thread isn't about racism OR religious beliefs.


I dunno.
The prudishness aspect of it is very european imperial.
It's part of the justification for designating people as uncivilized savages.

Rock on up, good god, look at them, bare breasted and without trousers and hats!
Why, they don't even have moustaches!
Get me a bible, a gun, a bra, and some trousers at once willikins, we'll sort these savages out by jove.
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Postby Arbolvine » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:38 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Polar Svalbard wrote:I honestly don't care, go nuts throw your shirt off practice whatever religion you want . We should make equal wages were equals I don't care if your black, Asian white a woman. I honestly don't even care for rasicism I think it's archaic, I feel in this modern world racism and gender inequality just drive us apart, why does everyone care so much.


This thread isn't about racism OR religious beliefs.

Good thing too. Otherwise I would be arguing with total brick walls.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:39 pm

New haven america wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:
Apparently not:

You're quoting a joke post as an argument.

Cangradu-fucking-lations, you can't read joke over the internet.


Apparently you can't either, despite my insistence that:
1) Cars should be banned
2) Knives should be banned
3) Men should get maternity leave
4) Women should be subject to the military draft
4.5) Banning Hands and Skin just isn't practical.
5) Everyone should have to wear Biohazard suits

I mean, come on! What do I have to say on these forums to not be taken seriously!
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Postby Olthar » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:39 pm

Yes. If it's legal for men, then it should be legsl for women, no exceptions.
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Postby Silviah » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:40 pm

Jaxukuk wrote:
Communist Volkstrad wrote:But the only reason that it causes more problems is because people think of it that way. The way to change that is to allow people to do it.


It's engrained into our society. There is no way to change it without making life awkward for a large amount of people.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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I think there is. Female breasts develop for a purpose at puberty. No one knows the purpose of male breasts.

I'm way late on this, I realize.
But you're fucking stupid. Male breasts are female breasts. When you're being developed, you are a female. That's why you have breasts in the first place. In fact, there is no such thing as 'female breasts'. With enough stimulation, males can lactate as well (albeit less efficiently, the organs aren't developed nearly as well, if at all.)
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Postby Spoder » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:40 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:
This thread isn't about racism OR religious beliefs.


I dunno.
The prudishness aspect of it is very european imperial.
It's part of the justification for designating people as uncivilized savages.

Rock on up, good god, look at them, bare breasted and without trousers and hats!
Why, they don't even have moustaches!
Get me a bible, a gun, a bra, and some trousers at once willikins, we'll sort these savages out by jove.

I'll fetch the hunting hounds, m'lord. They're wearing the sweater nanny sewed up for them on Yuletide.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:41 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:
New haven america wrote:Touching someone if they do not want to be touched is, in fact, sexual harassment.

Being forced to see naked people when they do not want to can also be interpreted as sexual harassment. But hey, some people feel they have to go around doing so because 'freedoms'.

See folks, it all goes circular here. And there's really nothing to be gained outside of what I've already laid out as selfishness on the parts of some, and 'because I want to'. Doesn't make it right, doesn't give you the automatic right to force others to view you in 'all your glory'. See previous posts. This has long since lost its debate value, given said circular nature. None of my points have been addressed, and simply the 'but I want to, why are you repressing my wants' gets brought up continually.

Surely some of us have better things to do than continue this back and forth silliness. I know I do.

Allowing women to go topless where men are allowed to go topless would not force anyone to see naked people.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:42 pm

Atelia wrote:The fact that this issue is even raised, is further proof of the rapidly degrading nature of western society. No of course a women should not be able to be so shameless in a public environment.

Why shouldn't women be allowed to go topless where men are allowed to do so?
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:43 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
New haven america wrote:You're quoting a joke post as an argument.

Cangradu-fucking-lations, you can't read joke over the internet.


Apparently you can't either, despite my insistence that:
1) Cars should be banned
2) Knives should be banned
3) Men should get maternity leave
4) Women should be subject to the military draft
4.5) Banning Hands and Skin just isn't practical.
5) Everyone should have to wear Biohazard suits

I mean, come on! What do I have to say on these forums to not be taken seriously!

Oh don't worry I stopped taking you seriously after your first post.
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Postby Silviah » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:45 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:
This thread isn't about racism OR religious beliefs.

But it treads on the line of civil right I'm just bringing my pov forward and it's just that I don't care, I have my life you have yours, you wants your breasts out fine by me idc.


I love it when these ridiculous motherfuckers get on the internet, get in a fight, then get all offended and defensive XD.

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:45 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:
Apparently you can't either, despite my insistence that:
1) Cars should be banned
2) Knives should be banned
3) Men should get maternity leave
4) Women should be subject to the military draft
4.5) Banning Hands and Skin just isn't practical.
5) Everyone should have to wear Biohazard suits

I mean, come on! What do I have to say on these forums to not be taken seriously!

Oh don't worry I stopped taking you seriously after your first post.


I wasn't worried about you.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:46 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:
Apparently you can't either, despite my insistence that:
1) Cars should be banned
2) Knives should be banned
3) Men should get maternity leave
4) Women should be subject to the military draft
4.5) Banning Hands and Skin just isn't practical.
5) Everyone should have to wear Biohazard suits

I mean, come on! What do I have to say on these forums to not be taken seriously!

Oh don't worry I stopped taking you seriously after your first post.

was anyone taking him seriously is the question.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:46 pm

Spoder wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:
I said being topless should be banned in general (and everyone should wear biohazard suits). What do you people not understand?

Nobody can see muscles through a shirt?


They can't see muscles through a biohazard suit.
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Postby Silviah » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:46 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Oh don't worry I stopped taking you seriously after your first post.


I wasn't worried about you.

He speaks for us all ^^

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Postby Spoder » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:47 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Oh don't worry I stopped taking you seriously after your first post.

was anyone taking him seriously is the question.

I have to admit, I think that they're serious about their opinion.

It's just not a very good one.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:47 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Oh don't worry I stopped taking you seriously after your first post.

was anyone taking him seriously is the question.


Spoder and new haven america were.
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Saveyou Island wrote:"Warmest welcomes to the Assembly, ambassador. You'll soon learn to hate everyone here."
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Digital Network Defence is pretty meh
Tier 9 nation, according to my index.Made of nomadic fleets.


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