Free the nipple:should women be able to go topless in public

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Alright, so we're back to where we began. Groping a breast is then not sexual harassment because it isn't sexual.

Touching someone if they do not want to be touched is, in fact, sexual harassment.

Being forced to see naked people when they do not want to can also be interpreted as sexual harassment. But hey, some people feel they have to go around doing so because 'freedoms'.

See folks, it all goes circular here. And there's really nothing to be gained outside of what I've already laid out as selfishness on the parts of some, and 'because I want to'. Doesn't make it right, doesn't give you the automatic right to force others to view you in 'all your glory'. See previous posts. This has long since lost its debate value, given said circular nature. None of my points have been addressed, and simply the 'but I want to, why are you repressing my wants' gets brought up continually.

Surely some of us have better things to do than continue this back and forth silliness. I know I do.

[Excidium Planetis]

Alright, so we're back to where we began. Groping a breast is then not sexual harassment because it isn't sexual.

Touching someone if they do not want to be touched is, in fact, sexual harassment.

Nope:

Sexual harassment is bullying or coercion of a sexual nature

Booping someone on the nose is not bullying of a sexual nature, even if they do not want to be booped.

[Praetorian010]

Why should it not? Because you and your subjective morals say it's wrong? Who are you to tell people what they can and can't look like in public?

[Spoder]

Hi Kettle. I appreciate you're calling me black, but you are too.

Please stop acting like you're a scientist. You know damn well enough and so do I that Testosterone has not a damn thing to do with sexuality, otherwise if men were to produce that little of testerone, then they would lack muscle, bone mass, and body hair, two of which are required unless you want to be as weak as a stick.

Really, you can stop bullshitting the scientific route anytime.

Did I hit a nerve there? Sorry but it's as simple as that. Test and estrogen determine your sexuality in fetal development. And you are indeed right about the lack muscle, bone mass, and body hair. Homosexuals do indeed look more feminine than heterosexual males. I'm not saying that homosexuals produce no test, that would be silly. Rather, that they produce very little compared to a hetero.

I've met some very swole and masculine non-heterosexuals.

[Arbolvine]

I think you confused me by implying it's a larger group being fucked over. I see it as a majority fucking over a minority.

"OH GOD WE HAVE TO WEAR CLOTHES! THE HORROR ... THE HORROR ... MY RIGHTS ARE SO BEING FUCKED WITH HERE!"

I expected better from a Mod. Please be mature.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

I think you confused me by implying it's a larger group being fucked over. I see it as a majority fucking over a minority.

"OH GOD WE HAVE TO WEAR CLOTHES! THE HORROR ... THE HORROR ... MY RIGHTS ARE SO BEING FUCKED WITH HERE!"

... I'm sorry, but no.

You just sound ridiculous now. The only thing making me take you seriously is the red coat you have.

The problem being is that people's rights are being fucked with, yet there are laws that disallow the display of public nudity that concern female breasts, which can end up in a sentence for prison.

Really Nathani, if you're going to exaggerate and underexaggerate, then clap clap clap

[Arbolvine]

Boobs =/= health and safety concern.

There's a reason there's a speed limit. It's called physics.

Speed isn't a safety concern either. Heck, in many places there are no speed limits.

Having no speed limits is most often in of itself a safety concern.

[Excidium Planetis]

"OH GOD WE HAVE TO WEAR CLOTHES! THE HORROR ... THE HORROR ... MY RIGHTS ARE SO BEING FUCKED WITH HERE!"

... I'm sorry, but no.

Yes, actually, your rights are being fucked up. Males don't have any laws stopping us from going topless, but females do, and can go to jail for it.

Don't you that's just a little sexist and wrong?

Which is why I've argued that being topless should be banned regardless of gender!

[Excidium Planetis]

Speed isn't a safety concern either. Heck, in many places there are no speed limits.

Having no speed limits is most often in of itself a safety concern.

Tell it to Germany.

[New haven america]

Walking around topless isn't as dangerous as driving a car.

You're right. We should ban cars. They're too dangerous.

That's flawed logic, you can be taught how to drive and control a car, even though accidents happen.

Breast do literally nothing dangerous, they're mammary glands used to feed children.

[Excidium Planetis]

You're right. We should ban cars. They're too dangerous.

That's flawed logic, you can be taught how to drive and control a car, even though accidents happen.

Breast do literally nothing dangerous, they're mammary glands used to feed children.

Apparently not:

I'm all for topless women! Though I don't think I'd be able to drive anywhere if it happened.

[Atelia]

The fact that this issue is even raised, is further proof of the rapidly degrading nature of western society. No of course a women should not be able to be so shameless in a public environment.

[Polar Svalbard]

I honestly don't care, go nuts throw your shirt off practice whatever religion you want . We should make equal wages were equals I don't care if your black, Asian white a woman. I honestly don't even care for rasicism I think it's archaic, I feel in this modern world racism and gender inequality just drive us apart, why does everyone care so much.

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

They should allow this.... under and above a certain age

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Did I hit a nerve there? Sorry but it's as simple as that

Biology 101, Room 168.

Test and estrogen determine your sexuality in fetal development.

No, they don't.

Homosexuals do indeed look more feminine than heterosexual males.

Nice stereotype.

[Spoder]

That's flawed logic, you can be taught how to drive and control a car, even though accidents happen.

Breast do literally nothing dangerous, they're mammary glands used to feed children.

Apparently not:

I'm all for topless women! Though I don't think I'd be able to drive anywhere if it happened.

You're quoting a joking post as a source for breasts being exposed being dangerous?

What about muscular, attractive men? Isn't it dangerous for them to just exist in general then?

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Having no speed limits is most often in of itself a safety concern.

Tell it to Germany.

Because if one nation does it, it MUST be right then. -_-

[Lancaster of Wessex]

They should allow this.... under and above a certain age

Going to ID the 5 topless women who would actually do this, even if legalized?

[Spoder]

They should allow this.... under and above a certain age

Going to ID the 5 topless women who would actually do this, even if legalized?

A lot more than 5.

This would revolutionize female bodybuilding.

[Excidium Planetis]

Apparently not:

You're quoting a joking post as a source for breasts being exposed being dangerous?

What about muscular, attractive men? Isn't it dangerous for them to just exist in general then?

I said being topless should be banned in general (and everyone should wear biohazard suits). What do you people not understand?

[New haven america]

Touching someone if they do not want to be touched is, in fact, sexual harassment.

Being forced to see naked people when they do not want to can also be interpreted as sexual harassment. But hey, some people feel they have to go around doing so because 'freedoms'.

See folks, it all goes circular here. And there's really nothing to be gained outside of what I've already laid out as selfishness on the parts of some, and 'because I want to'. Doesn't make it right, doesn't give you the automatic right to force others to view you in 'all your glory'. See previous posts. This has long since lost its debate value, given said circular nature. None of my points have been addressed, and simply the 'but I want to, why are you repressing my wants' gets brought up continually.

Surely some of us have better things to do than continue this back and forth silliness. I know I do.

As long as that person/people is/are minding their own business and trying to not bother anyone, I'm not seeing a problem.

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

They should allow this.... under and above a certain age

Going to ID the 5 topless women who would actually do this, even if legalized?

well i mean over a certain age it's scary... like old men

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Going to ID the 5 topless women who would actually do this, even if legalized?

A lot more than 5.

This would revolutionize female bodybuilding.

Funny I live in a city of millions and have never seen it.

[High Germany]

Did I hit a nerve there? Sorry but it's as simple as that. Test and estrogen determine your sexuality in fetal development. And you are indeed right about the lack muscle, bone mass, and body hair. Homosexuals do indeed look more feminine than heterosexual males. I'm not saying that homosexuals produce no test, that would be silly. Rather, that they produce very little compared to a hetero.

I've met some very swole and masculine non-heterosexuals.

I should've also mentioned that levels of test and estrogen are not fixed either. They sway all through out life from internal and external factors. Also some homosexuals tend to hide their femininity by bulking or exposing themselves to test. However your sexual preference is generally fixed.

[Excidium Planetis]

Tell it to Germany.

Because if one nation does it, it MUST be right then. -_-

Germany isn't the only nation.