Free the nipple:should women be able to go topless in public

[Spoder]

Exactly. When was the last time breasts were necessary for conception?

They aren't. But if they aren't sexual, then groping someone's breasts isn't sexual harassment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groping

It sure as hell is.

[Ostroeuropa]

Not really.

It's just that oversexualization of mammary glands shouldn't exist at all.

I know, I just think Ostro's only supporting this because he wants to see boobs irl. But sexualisation of breasts has existed since prehistoric times, so it will probably exist long into the future.

Uh, ok?
I'm more of an ass person, frankly. I'm actually supporting it because i'm sick of prudes being upset about things that are none of their business. I'd prefer it if nudism were normal for people to do. I personally wouldn't, but if people want to, it harms noone, so they should be able to.

[Excidium Planetis]

It's not ONLY women's breasts. It's sexual organs in general.

Did you just call tits a sex organ?

I think you need to go back to high school biology then...

I think you need to learn what "sexual" means.

[Spoder]

I know, I just think Ostro's only supporting this because he wants to see boobs irl. But sexualisation of breasts has existed since prehistoric times, so it will probably exist long into the future.

Uh, ok?
I'm more of an ass person, frankly. I'm actually supporting it because i'm sick of prudes being upset about things that are none of their business. I'd prefer it if nudism were normal for people to do. I personally wouldn't, but if people want to, it harms noone, so they should be able to.

I'm more of a face and downstairs person.

I appreciate good boobs and a great ass, but it doesn't turn me on.

It doesn't hurt anybody. If anything, it'll teach people with dicks to control their boners if they haven't already learned how.

[Ostroeuropa]

But why should be allowed to be topless and not women?

You men do not jiggle your manboobs when you walk about - at least the ones who don't possess manboobs. >_> Yours are not accepted widely as sexual symbols. Women's are, like it or not. Yours do not need support as you saunter down the street - many of ours do. You think the twins are uncomfortable now, try going around without a bra and really getting nasty and sweaty all under there. Son, I tell you what, it is not a pleasant thing. How do I know this? Because I tend to go around without a bra as often as I can get away with - AT HOME and in MY OWN YARD. And the fact is, working when it's going to be hot, I tend to put on said bra to stave off that uncomfortable feeling and overall gritty, nasty ick factor that results when going sans. So don't gimme those lame excuses. I got boobs, I'm fine with my boobs, and I don't think everyone and their dog needs to see my boobs, even if they were the most perfect pair on the planet and they could make the blind see and the lame walk again. >_<

I'm not that big of a prude, tbh. I simply like having SOME goram lines where we can more or less agree to operate within. We're not wild animals. We don't need to act like them, operating off our ID rather than Superego urges, at all given times. Perhaps it's my relative maturity level compared to the 24 and younger crowd that's predominant here, dunno. Yes, it's your body. Yes, by all means, be proud of it. But ffs, keep some o' that shit to yourself, plskthx. Like the old saying sorta goes - don't care what all you get up to, so long as you don't do it in the streets and scare the horses.

Can you give any reason why your personal reservations should restrict other people who don't have them?

[Lancaster of Wessex]

I know, I just think Ostro's only supporting this because he wants to see boobs irl. But sexualisation of breasts has existed since prehistoric times, so it will probably exist long into the future.

Uh, ok?
I'm more of an ass person, frankly. I'm actually supporting it because i'm sick of prudes being upset about things that are none of their business. I'd prefer it if nudism were normal for people to do. I personally wouldn't, but if people want to, it harms noone, so they should be able to.

So few people go topless where it's legalized as I've said, so what does it even matter? A few people may do it, a few prudes may be upset, this affects probably 1% (or some very small percentage) of the population or less. I don't see the debate, honestly.

[Greater Soviet Ukraine]

Not really.

It's just that oversexualization of mammary glands shouldn't exist at all.

but the sexualization does exist...

God people, basic science. Why do you think we like boobs and vaginas? Sex sex sex. Nature is all about procreation. Sure, you might say "I'm human! I'm better than animals!", but when it comes to it, you are born to make babies, like your father and his father did, to continue the human race and life on Earth. So, we can't try to do some utopian removal of sexualization. It is buried into our psyche to feel arousal when we see breasts, because without arousal there with be no babies to continue this argument. You simply can't control your unconscious impulses.

[Excidium Planetis]

They aren't. But if they aren't sexual, then groping someone's breasts isn't sexual harassment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groping

It sure as hell is.

And it is because... breasts are sexual!

Sexual harassment is bullying or coercion of a sexual nature.

If breasts aren't sexual, touching them is not an act of sexual nature!

[Spoder]

But why should be allowed to be topless and not women?

You men do not jiggle your manboobs when you walk about - at least the ones who don't possess manboobs. >_> Yours are not accepted widely as sexual symbols. Women's are, like it or not. Yours do not need support as you saunter down the street - many of ours do. You think the twins are uncomfortable now, try going around without a bra and really getting nasty and sweaty all under there. Son, I tell you what, it is not a pleasant thing. How do I know this? Because I tend to go around without a bra as often as I can get away with - AT HOME and in MY OWN YARD. And the fact is, working when it's going to be hot, I tend to put on said bra to stave off that uncomfortable feeling and overall gritty, nasty ick factor that results when going sans. So don't gimme those lame excuses. I got boobs, I'm fine with my boobs, and I don't think everyone and their dog needs to see my boobs, even if they were the most perfect pair on the planet and they could make the blind see and the lame walk again. >_<

I'm not that big of a prude, tbh. I simply like having SOME goram lines where we can more or less agree to operate within. We're not wild animals. We don't need to act like them, operating off our ID rather than Superego urges, at all given times. Perhaps it's my relative maturity level compared to the 24 and younger crowd that's predominant here, dunno. Yes, it's your body. Yes, by all means, be proud of it. But ffs, keep some o' that shit to yourself, plskthx. Like the old saying sorta goes - don't care what all you get up to, so long as you don't do it in the streets and scare the horses.

So you're saying that because you don't like to see boobs, women shouldn't be allowed to reveal them?

[Ostroeuropa]

Uh, ok?
I'm more of an ass person, frankly. I'm actually supporting it because i'm sick of prudes being upset about things that are none of their business. I'd prefer it if nudism were normal for people to do. I personally wouldn't, but if people want to, it harms noone, so they should be able to.

So few people go topless where it's legalized as I've said, so what does it even matter? A few people may do it, a few prudes may be upset, this affects probably 1% (or some very small percentage) of the population or less. I don't see the debate, honestly.

Because fuck peoples rights if they're a small enough minority, right?

[Harelia]

But why should be allowed to be topless and not women?

You men do not jiggle your manboobs when you walk about - at least the ones who don't possess manboobs. >_> Yours are not accepted widely as sexual symbols. Women's are, like it or not. Yours do not need support as you saunter down the street - many of ours do. You think the twins are uncomfortable now, try going around without a bra and really getting nasty and sweaty all under there. Son, I tell you what, it is not a pleasant thing. How do I know this? Because I tend to go around without a bra as often as I can get away with - AT HOME and in MY OWN YARD. And the fact is, working when it's going to be hot, I tend to put on said bra to stave off that uncomfortable feeling and overall gritty, nasty ick factor that results when going sans. So don't gimme those lame excuses. I got boobs, I'm fine with my boobs, and I don't think everyone and their dog needs to see my boobs, even if they were the most perfect pair on the planet and they could make the blind see and the lame walk again. >_<

I'm not that big of a prude, tbh. I simply like having SOME goram lines where we can more or less agree to operate within. We're not wild animals. We don't need to act like them, operating off our ID rather than Superego urges, at all given times. Perhaps it's my relative maturity level compared to the 24 and younger crowd that's predominant here, dunno. Yes, it's your body. Yes, by all means, be proud of it. But ffs, keep some o' that shit to yourself, plskthx. Like the old saying sorta goes - don't care what all you get up to, so long as you don't do it in the streets and scare the horses.

If your boobs have healing powers, then I think we need to start rethinking our religious ideals.

"I CAN SEE! I CAN SEEEEE...TITS."

I can just imagine how that post-healing conversation would work.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

So few people go topless where it's legalized as I've said, so what does it even matter? A few people may do it, a few prudes may be upset, this affects probably 1% (or some very small percentage) of the population or less. I don't see the debate, honestly.

Because fuck peoples rights if they're a small enough minority, right?

Gross misconstruing of what I said.

Legalize it. Go ahead, everywhere.

But almost nobody is going to do it, so who cares.

[Spoder]

Did you just call tits a sex organ?

I think you need to go back to high school biology then...

I think you need to learn what "sexual" means.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sexual?s=t

I think you do.

Well, I suppose that they can be technically called sexual organs if you grope them during sex.

[Excidium Planetis]

Uh, ok?
I'm more of an ass person, frankly. I'm actually supporting it because i'm sick of prudes being upset about things that are none of their business. I'd prefer it if nudism were normal for people to do. I personally wouldn't, but if people want to, it harms noone, so they should be able to.

So few people go topless where it's legalized as I've said, so what does it even matter? A few people may do it, a few prudes may be upset, this affects probably 1% (or some very small percentage) of the population or less. I don't see the debate, honestly.

Given the poll statistics, I'm guessing it's closer to 20% of the population, not 1%.

Only around 2% of people identify as homosexual, yet that's a major debate.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Can you give any reason why your personal reservations should restrict other people who don't have them?

Can you give any reason why your personal desires should infringe on other people who don't feel the same?

[High Germany]

No. Anyone who even proclaims any sense of logic should say no. Men and women are different not just physically, but mentally. The male's brain reacts to the sight of plump breasts, curves, and large bottoms by releasing testosterone, adrenaline, and an erection. Why? Because these things indicate a healthy female, therefor, healthy offspring, therefor, breed baby breed. Women do the same thing, only replace testosterone with estrogen and plump breasts, etc., with a strong male, strong face, body hair, etc. The main difference should've already been spotted here, men release testosterone, adrenaline, and an erection.

Men are simply more... aggressive and prominent in their desire to breed. So what do you end up with? Well you end up with every man going googly eyed with an erection and excited. A confused child with weird feelings that his father now has to give "the talk". And seniors losing more hope for the future generations.

So really, it's not just "your" body. People have a right to not have to be bombarded with indecent exposure when they want to go play with their kid in the park or take a jog. Your actions have consequences that affect both you and the people around you. Men apply as well. You don't generally see many men walking around exposing their bush or walking around with an erection because: indecent exposure laws.

If you want to go topless, go to a nudist beach. If you want to do soft drugs, do it in the privacy of your own home. Etc., Etc., Etc.

[Ostroeuropa]

Because fuck peoples rights if they're a small enough minority, right?

Gross misconstruing of what I said.

Legalize it. Go ahead, everywhere.

But almost nobody is going to do it, so who cares.

That's fine with me. I may have misinterpretated your position, in which case, sorry.
I also think hardly anyone would do it, but dammit, they should be able to. It harms none.

[New haven america]

Did you just call tits a sex organ?

I think you need to go back to high school biology then...

I think you need to learn what "sexual" means.

I think you need to learn what the "Sexual Organs" are.

Now, off to bio, don't want the teacher giving you detention~

[Ostroeuropa]

Can you give any reason why your personal reservations should restrict other people who don't have them?

Can you give any reason why your personal desires should infringe on other people who don't feel the same?

Assuming I were a woman who wanted to go around topless, how would that infringe on others? They'd have to see something they don't like? Not really infringement.
We gonna support bags for uglies now?

[Spoder]

Can you give any reason why your personal reservations should restrict other people who don't have them?

Can you give any reason why your personal desires should infringe on other people who don't feel the same?

Can you give any reason why a bill shouldn't be voted on by the public?

Let the majority decide if it should be legal or not.

[Herrebrugh]

No. Anyone who even proclaims any sense of logic should say no. Men and women are different not just physically, but mentally. The male's brain reacts to the sight of plump breasts, curves, and large bottoms by releasing testosterone, adrenaline, and an erection. Why? Because these things indicate a healthy female, therefor, healthy offspring, therefor, breed baby breed.

My brain does no such thing.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Gross misconstruing of what I said.

Legalize it. Go ahead, everywhere.

But almost nobody is going to do it, so who cares.

That's fine with me. I may have misinterpretated your position, in which case, sorry.
I also think hardly anyone would do it, but dammit, they should be able to. It harms none.

No worries.

And to the poster who said 20% of the female population would go topless if they could, I call BS. It's legal here in Canada, and I've never seen it. Ever.

[West Hudson]

Ban life because some people are killers *nods*

No, we ban guns because some people are killers. Flawed logic on your part.

How the fuck did you turn a debate on whether or not women should be able to show their tits in public into a gun control argument?

[Excidium Planetis]

I think you need to learn what "sexual" means.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sexual?s=t

I think you do.

Well, I suppose that they can be technically called sexual organs if you grope them during sex.

adjective
1. of, relating to, or for sex :
sexual matters; sexual aids.
2. occurring between or involving the sexes :
sexual relations.

1. Breasts are used in sex.
2. Breasts involve the sexes... in women, they lactate and are usually larger.

So yes, Breasts are sexual organs. Admit it.

[Spoder]

That's fine with me. I may have misinterpretated your position, in which case, sorry.
I also think hardly anyone would do it, but dammit, they should be able to. It harms none.

No worries.

And to the poster who said 20% of the female population would go topless if they could, I call BS. It's legal here in Canada, and I've never seen it. Ever.

That's because most of the year, you'd get frostbitten nipples.