Saudi Arabia intervenes in Yemen

[Alsheb]

You know that by saying that, you inherently support a complete and utter campaign of genocide and annihalation of the shia people in Yemen, correct?

No.
By saying that, I support the bombardment and (hopefully) eventual defeat of the Houthis and Victory of Hadis forces and the Coalition.

At no point did I say "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support the Genocide and complete Annihalation of the Shi'ite people inside Yemen".

Don't come to assumptions next time

Yet you oppose the Houthis for the simple reason that they are Shia.

[Laanvia]

No.
By saying that, I support the bombardment and (hopefully) eventual defeat of the Houthis and Victory of Hadis forces and the Coalition.

At no point did I say "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support the Genocide and complete Annihalation of the Shi'ite people inside Yemen".

Don't come to assumptions next time

Yet you oppose the Houthis for the simple reason that they are Shia.

I never said that, did I?


I hate them because they're allied with that pig: Bashar and his filthy Army and also with Hizbullah and the oppressive Regime of Iran.

[The South Polish Union]

Yet you oppose the Houthis for the simple reason that they are Shia.

I never said that, did I?


I hate them because they're allied with that pig: Bashar and his filthy Army and also with Hizbullah and the oppressive Regime of Iran.

"The Finnish anthropologist Susanne Dahlgren, who has lived in Yemen, points out in the Middle East Research and Information Project this week that the Shiite and Iranian links being slapped on to the Houthis have little substance.

"She writes: “The Western media shorthand designating the Houthis as ‘Iran-backed’ and ‘Shiite’ is misleading at best, since Houthi grievances are home grown and the Zaydi sect to which the Houthis belong is a distant cousin of the Twelver Shi’ism championed by the Islamic Republic in Tehran.”

"Dahlgren goes on to say, “Much huffing and puffing by Gulf (Arab) media notwithstanding, there was little evidence that Iran aided the Houthis in the intermittent fighting of 2004-2010, certainly not to the extent of Saudi Arabia’s military intervention against the Houthis in 2009.”"

[Cyllea]

You know that by saying that, you inherently support a complete and utter campaign of genocide and annihalation of the shia people in Yemen, correct?

No.
By saying that, I support the bombardment and (hopefully) eventual defeat of the Houthis and Victory of Hadis forces and the Coalition.

At no point did I say "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support the Genocide and complete Annihalation of the Shi'ite people inside Yemen".

Don't come to assumptions next time

Okay, and.. The current government of Yemen has been brutally oppressing the shia minority pretty much ever since the conception of a unified Yemen. You really don't think that if they won this war they wouldn't repress these people even more?

[Cyllea]

Yet you oppose the Houthis for the simple reason that they are Shia.

I never said that, did I?


I hate them because they're allied with that pig: Bashar and his filthy Army and also with Hizbullah and the oppressive Regime of Iran.

>cries about Syria and Iran being oppressive
>supports saudi arabia, qatar, bahrain, sudan, morocco and egypt intervening in a civil war, all of which are arguably more oppressive than syria or iran
>k

[Laanvia]

No.
By saying that, I support the bombardment and (hopefully) eventual defeat of the Houthis and Victory of Hadis forces and the Coalition.

At no point did I say "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support the Genocide and complete Annihalation of the Shi'ite people inside Yemen".

Don't come to assumptions next time

Okay, and.. The current government of Yemen has been brutally oppressing the shia minority pretty much ever since the conception of a unified Yemen. You really don't think that if they won this war they wouldn't repress these people even more?

Again, at no point did I say "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support the Genocide and complete Annihalation of the Shi'ite people inside Yemen".

People on these forums

[Alsheb]

Yet you oppose the Houthis for the simple reason that they are Shia.

I never said that, did I?


I hate them because they're allied with that pig: Bashar and his filthy Army and also with Hizbullah and the oppressive Regime of Iran.

Yes, it's so terrible of Bashar and Hezbollah that they are waging war against takfiri terrorist mass murderers who enslave and commit bloodbath after bloodbath against pretty much everyone. Why don't they just leave those nice sweet terrorists alone?
I'm so touched by your compassion for the oppressed. Fortunately, there is no oppression whatsoever in your beloved Saudi Arabia

[Laanvia]

I never said that, did I?


I hate them because they're allied with that pig: Bashar and his filthy Army and also with Hizbullah and the oppressive Regime of Iran.

>cries about Syria and Iran being oppressive
>supports saudi arabia, qatar, bahrain, sudan, morocco and egypt intervening in a civil war, all of which are arguably more oppressive than syria or iran
>k

You know that people are getting infantile when they say that another is "crying" over Politics on an online, browser based game.
Also, are you sure about that? Are you sure?

[Alsheb]

>cries about Syria and Iran being oppressive
>supports saudi arabia, qatar, bahrain, sudan, morocco and egypt intervening in a civil war, all of which are arguably more oppressive than syria or iran
>k

You know that people are getting infantile when they say that another is "crying" over Politics on an online, browser based game.
Also, are you sure about that? Are you sure?

Saudi Arabia flogs people to death for blogging, sentences religious scholars to lifelong imprisonment for not being Wahhabi, cuts off hands of thieves, publicly flogs victims of rape and imprisons women who dare to sit behind the steering wheel of a car.

Yes, we're sure.

[Laanvia]

I never said that, did I?


I hate them because they're allied with that pig: Bashar and his filthy Army and also with Hizbullah and the oppressive Regime of Iran.

Yes, it's so terrible of Bashar and Hezbollah that they are waging war against takfiri terrorist mass murderers who enslave and commit bloodbath after bloodbath against pretty much everyone. Why don't they just leave those nice sweet terrorists alone?
I'm so touched by your compassion for the oppressed. Fortunately, there is no oppression whatsoever in your beloved Saudi Arabia

1. No offence, buddy, but you're getting really weird now...
2. Bashar oppresses his people.
3. Opened fire on Peaceful protestors.
4. Supports Hizbullah
5. Hizbullah are textbook terrorists, aside from the fact that they're very well organised, I'll give you that.

[Alsheb]

Okay, and.. The current government of Yemen has been brutally oppressing the shia minority pretty much ever since the conception of a unified Yemen. You really don't think that if they won this war they wouldn't repress these people even more?

Again, at no point did I say "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support the Genocide and complete Annihalation of the Shi'ite people inside Yemen".

People on these forums

Answer the damn question.
Are you honestly denying that the Yemeni "government" has been, and will most likely continue to be, extremely racist and oppressive against the Shias?

[Laanvia]

You know that people are getting infantile when they say that another is "crying" over Politics on an online, browser based game.
Also, are you sure about that? Are you sure?

Saudi Arabia flogs people to death for blogging, sentences religious scholars to lifelong imprisonment for not being Wahhabi, cuts off hands of thieves, publicly flogs victims of rape and imprisons women who dare to sit behind the steering wheel of a car.

Yes, we're sure.

At no point did I say that I supported any of that. If anything, I oppose it. I support their actions in Yemen aside from the accidental killing of civilians.

[Laanvia]

Again, at no point did I say "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support the Genocide and complete Annihalation of the Shi'ite people inside Yemen".

People on these forums

Answer the damn question.
Are you honestly denying that the Yemeni "government" has been, and will most likely continue to be, extremely racist and oppressive against the Shias?

No, I'm not denying that the Yemeni "government" (I have no idea why you put that in quote marks. Maybe because you think it's not real?) has oppressed Shias. I just oppose the Houthis and prefer Hadi.

[Alsheb]

Yes, it's so terrible of Bashar and Hezbollah that they are waging war against takfiri terrorist mass murderers who enslave and commit bloodbath after bloodbath against pretty much everyone. Why don't they just leave those nice sweet terrorists alone?
I'm so touched by your compassion for the oppressed. Fortunately, there is no oppression whatsoever in your beloved Saudi Arabia

1. No offence, buddy, but you're getting really weird now...
2. Bashar oppresses his people.
3. Opened fire on Peaceful protestors.
4. Supports Hizbullah
5. Hizbullah are textbook terrorists, aside from the fact that they're very well organised, I'll give you that.

1) That's not even an argument, but then again I don't expect you to have any. Moving on.
2) The sun revolves around the Earth. See, I can say random bullshit too.
3) No, he didn't. He fired upon the rebels when they started their rebellion. The essence of a civil war is basically that two camps are shooting at one another. When the rebels started their insurgency, they know what was coming.
4) Of course. Hezbollah is the prime anti-imperialist and anti-zionist force in Lebanon. Why on earth would any sane Arab not support them?
5) I think you'll find that your friends of Al Qaeda, Daesh and the FSA have way more in the way of textbook terrorism, mate. Hezbollah defends Lebanon against the Israelis. They don't go around trying to overthrow governments like your friends do.

[Alsheb]

Answer the damn question.
Are you honestly denying that the Yemeni "government" has been, and will most likely continue to be, extremely racist and oppressive against the Shias?

No, I'm not denying that the Yemeni "government" (I have no idea why you put that in quote marks. Maybe because you think it's not real?) has oppressed Shias. I just oppose the Houthis and prefer Hadi.

So you prefer Hadi, the man whom you admit has oppressed, repressed and exploited the Shia population because they are Shia?
Bingo. You have just admitted you support the oppression of the Shiite faith and its followers. Thank you.

Also, I put "government" between quotations since the Hadi clique is no longer the government of Yemen. In case you missed it, the Houthis rule Yemen now.

[Laanvia]

1. No offence, buddy, but you're getting really weird now...
2. Bashar oppresses his people.
3. Opened fire on Peaceful protestors.
4. Supports Hizbullah
5. Hizbullah are textbook terrorists, aside from the fact that they're very well organised, I'll give you that.

1) That's not even an argument, but then again I don't expect you to have any. Moving on.
2) The sun revolves around the Earth. See, I can say random bullshit too.
3) No, he didn't. He fired upon the rebels when they started their rebellion. The essence of a civil war is basically that two camps are shooting at one another. When the rebels started their insurgency, they know what was coming.
4) Of course. Hezbollah is the prime anti-imperialist and anti-zionist force in Lebanon. Why on earth would any sane Arab not support them?
5) I think you'll find that your friends of Al Qaeda, Daesh and the FSA have way more in the way of textbook terrorism, mate. Hezbollah defends Lebanon against the Israelis. They don't go around trying to overthrow governments like your friends do.

I support the FSA.

I absolutely detest those w*nkers who belong to al-Qa'eda, al-Nusra and obviously Da'esh.

He did fire on protestors.

I credit him in the fact that he's able to Fire on them if they actively rebelling, but in protests? No.

I can't wait for the day until Bashar is seen as Gaddafi: Dead and Deposed.

[Cyllea]

Okay, and.. The current government of Yemen has been brutally oppressing the shia minority pretty much ever since the conception of a unified Yemen. You really don't think that if they won this war they wouldn't repress these people even more?

Again, at no point did I say "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support the Genocide and complete Annihalation of the Shi'ite people inside Yemen".

People on these forums

No, its more like "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support a regime that will commit genocide and oppress the shia people inside yemen"

[Alsheb]

1) That's not even an argument, but then again I don't expect you to have any. Moving on.
2) The sun revolves around the Earth. See, I can say random bullshit too.
3) No, he didn't. He fired upon the rebels when they started their rebellion. The essence of a civil war is basically that two camps are shooting at one another. When the rebels started their insurgency, they know what was coming.
4) Of course. Hezbollah is the prime anti-imperialist and anti-zionist force in Lebanon. Why on earth would any sane Arab not support them?
5) I think you'll find that your friends of Al Qaeda, Daesh and the FSA have way more in the way of textbook terrorism, mate. Hezbollah defends Lebanon against the Israelis. They don't go around trying to overthrow governments like your friends do.

I support the FSA.

I absolutely detest those w*nkers who belong to al-Qa'eda, al-Nusra and obviously Da'esh.

He did fire on protestors.

I credit him in the fact that he's able to Fire on them if they actively rebelling, but in protests? No.

I can't wait for the day until Bashar is seen as Gaddafi: Dead and Deposed.

Oh yes, because after killing Gaddafi, things have been going so well for Libya.
Genocides, ethnic cleansing, tribal conflict, privatisation of the natural wealth by a handful of oligarchs, religious turmoil, the spread of Daesh into Libya, rape and murder on a massive scale, complete disintegration of the country and a backlash in the country's condition of living to basically the Stone Ages. Well done.

[Laanvia]

I support the FSA.

I absolutely detest those w*nkers who belong to al-Qa'eda, al-Nusra and obviously Da'esh.

He did fire on protestors.

I credit him in the fact that he's able to Fire on them if they actively rebelling, but in protests? No.

I can't wait for the day until Bashar is seen as Gaddafi: Dead and Deposed.

Oh yes, because after killing Gaddafi, things have been going so well for Libya.
Genocides, ethnic cleansing, tribal conflict, privatisation of the natural wealth by a handful of oligarchs, religious turmoil, the spread of Daesh into Libya, rape and murder on a massive scale, complete disintegration of the country and a backlash in the country's condition of living to basically the Stone Ages. Well done.

The country doesn't now live in the stone ages. The stone ages? Really? So big, huge men walk around with sticks, marvelling at the site of fire and impaling their food with a spear? I find that hard to believe.

[Alsheb]

Oh yes, because after killing Gaddafi, things have been going so well for Libya.
Genocides, ethnic cleansing, tribal conflict, privatisation of the natural wealth by a handful of oligarchs, religious turmoil, the spread of Daesh into Libya, rape and murder on a massive scale, complete disintegration of the country and a backlash in the country's condition of living to basically the Stone Ages. Well done.

The country doesn't now live in the stone ages. The stone ages? Really? So big, huge men walk around with sticks, marvelling at the site of fire and impaling their food with a spear? I find that hard to believe.

That's your reply? Seriously?

[Dain II Ironfoot]

Its actually that government that doesn't want such things.



Have you even looked at the two? If those two would get 1vs1 head on Iran would win, there's no doubt about that.


And what about the Sunni rebels?

This isn't a Shia VS sunni battle, its a Tribal VS government battle and with the involvement of Saudi Arabia it has become another Iran VS Saudi conflict.
Anyhow, religion doesn't even play a role in it; That is, if you look at the facts and not at the media.

Iran wouldn't win. It's that simple. I don't know why Iran is so over mystified.

Have you even looked at the two? If those two would get 1vs1 head on Iran would win, there's no doubt about that.

What the hell are you talking about? Saudi's got the best-trained, most well-funded and equipped military on the Gulf. Iran would get beaten around the block by Saudi.

You're kidding me right?
Please, go study the two armies and come back to me afterwards.

[Organized States]

Iran wouldn't win. It's that simple. I don't know why Iran is so over mystified.

What the hell are you talking about? Saudi's got the best-trained, most well-funded and equipped military on the Gulf. Iran would get beaten around the block by Saudi.

You're kidding me right?
Please, go study the two armies and come back to me afterwards.

No, I have looked at the facts, and I can tell you that is bullshit.

Royal Saudi Air Force

-Largest Force on the Gulf
-3rd Largest F-15 operator in the world
-Maintains four of the 7 types used by NATO nations (on the same if not better upgrade block)
-Buying KC-130Js, allowing for deep strike into Iran
-Experienced and Well-trained Pilots and a large pilot corps

Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force

-Hasn't acquirred a new aircraft in 20 years
-No tanker capability
-F-5, Su-24, F-7, and F-14 fleet suffering from disrepair
-Is unable to acquire new aircraft in case of accidents or combat losses
-Average Iranian pilot gets half the flying hours a Saudi equal would and the Iranian pilot corps in the half the size of its Saudi equal

Royal Saudi Navy

-Extensive Littoral Capability
-Mk.41 VLS
-Modern Ships from the US and France
-British Mine Hunters
-Extensive ASW

Islamic Republic of Iran Navy

-Smaller Surface Fleet
-Suffers with aging equipment
-Relies on Missile Boats and Missiles, something Saudi has extensively countered.

Please don't make me go further how Iran's force is broken and could get beaten around the Gulf by the Saudis (and this is excluding the other gulf states that would intervene on Saudi's side).

[The South Polish Union]

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countrie ... it=COMPARE

Basically, Iran has a larger land force and navy, while Saudi Arabia has a stronger air force and more mechanized army.

The above site ranks Iran as 23^rd and Saudi Arabia as 28^th worldwide in military power (out of 106 countries in the database)

[Organized States]

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=saudi-arabia&country2=iran&Submit=COMPARE

Basically, Iran has a larger land force and navy, while Saudi Arabia has a stronger air force and more mechanized army.

The above site ranks Iran as 23^rd and Saudi Arabia as 28^th worldwide in military power (out of 106 countries in the database)

And half of Iran's Navy are patrol boats that couldn't get very far into the Gulf and make a considerable difference.

The Saudis are by far the more professional and more capable force.

[Costa Fierro]

And half of Iran's Navy are patrol boats that couldn't get very far into the Gulf and make a considerable difference.

The Saudis are by far the more professional and more capable force.

I wouldn't necessarily say "professional". For the most part, the last time they intervened in Yemen, all we saw were pictures of a bunch of barely equipped men standing around waving their Rolex watches in the sun.

Not to mention they also lost 133 men killed in action. Although I'm not sure what part of standing around showing off expensive watches involves actual combat, let alone being killed.

Saudi Arabia is, more or less, a paper tiger.