Saudi Arabia intervenes in Yemen

[Kubra]

Why the hell the South Yemen Movement join the fight with Houthis against the loyalists and takfiris? Aden is controlled by Houthis and Houthis is very active in the South which cause the silence of the movement and also the Houthis executed some South militants after the capture in Aden so do you think they'll join with the Houthis? Definitely not and also they have different goals and ideologies, the Houthis wants to establish their Shiite government right? They have an interest in the South while the South Yemen movement wants to restore communism in the Arabian Peninsula and wants independence against Yemen.

The Houthis may be Shiite, yes, but their ideology is still generally progressive, and heavily anti-imperialist. I see no reason for a communist to not support that. Anyway, the South Yemen Movement is (unfortunately) no longer purely Communist, and not even all of it fights for complete independence anymore. Both the South Yemen Movement and the Houthis have engaged in democratisation of Yemen, bringing politics to the local level through the establishment of Popular Committees. While I agree that ideally South Yemen shoule be granted independence once more, fighting against the Houthis is not the way to achieve this.

The SYM has been fighting the Yemenite government, the takfiris and the pro-Saudi forces for around twenty years now. It would only make sense to join forces with the Houthis now since they share a common enemy. Plus, the main powerbase of the Houthis is in the North of the country, where the historical Zaidi Imamate was positioned as well. It'd be perfectly possible to achieve a Houthi-controlled North and an SYM-controlled South. That is, if outside forces could stop bombing the country to hell and let the Yemenites sort out their country.

and on what grounds do you suppose the houthi's to be progressive?

[Costa Fierro]

The Houthis may be Shiite, yes, but their ideology is still generally progressive, and heavily anti-imperialist. I see no reason for a communist to not support that. Anyway, the South Yemen Movement is (unfortunately) no longer purely Communist, and not even all of it fights for complete independence anymore. Both the South Yemen Movement and the Houthis have engaged in democratisation of Yemen, bringing politics to the local level through the establishment of Popular Committees. While I agree that ideally South Yemen shoule be granted independence once more, fighting against the Houthis is not the way to achieve this.

The SYM has been fighting the Yemenite government, the takfiris and the pro-Saudi forces for around twenty years now. It would only make sense to join forces with the Houthis now since they share a common enemy. Plus, the main powerbase of the Houthis is in the North of the country, where the historical Zaidi Imamate was positioned as well. It'd be perfectly possible to achieve a Houthi-controlled North and an SYM-controlled South. That is, if outside forces could stop bombing the country to hell and let the Yemenites sort out their country.

and on what grounds do you suppose the houthi's to be progressive?

According to this, apparently they claim themselves to be "liberal" and do not wish to implement the same kind of religious system as can be found in Iran.

[Alsheb]

Their work in establishing people's committees, ensure fair prices for basic commodities and opposition to imperialism is by itself a step forward. They may not be left-wing as such, but they are the more progressive option in present-day Yemen. I think it would be fair to call the Houthis the main force of the national-democratic revolution in the country.

[West Aurelia]

Yemen asks the Saudi-led coalition to send ground troops.

[Asigna]

Yemen asks the Saudi-led coalition to send ground troops.

COMING UP NEXT: Houthi government asks Iran to intervene, going against their previous vow to make it through the war without having to seek Iranian aid.

Or

Houthi vows "intensive guerilla war".

Or

Houthi vows to "make Saudis suffer in Yemeni soil".

Just as they all do...

In all hopes, that the Aden government survives and remodels the Yemeni government into a federal one to accommodate the interests of Sunnis, Shiites and southerners.

[Teemant]

Yemen asks the Saudi-led coalition to send ground troops.

COMING UP NEXT: Houthi government asks Iran to intervene, going against their previous vow to make it through the war without having to seek Iranian aid.

Or

Houthi vows "intensive guerilla war".

Or

Houthi vows to "make Saudis suffer in Yemeni soil".

Just as they all do...

In all hopes, that the Aden government survives and remodels the Yemeni government into a federal one to accommodate the interests of Sunnis, Shiites and southerners.

Saudi Arabia spends 80 BILLION dollars on defense (that's is more than Russia). Iran won't dare to fight Saudi Arabia.

[Herskerstad]

COMING UP NEXT: Houthi government asks Iran to intervene, going against their previous vow to make it through the war without having to seek Iranian aid.

Or

Houthi vows "intensive guerilla war".

Or

Houthi vows to "make Saudis suffer in Yemeni soil".

Just as they all do...

In all hopes, that the Aden government survives and remodels the Yemeni government into a federal one to accommodate the interests of Sunnis, Shiites and southerners.

Saudi Arabia spends 80 BILLION dollars on defense (that's is more than Russia). Iran won't dare to fight Saudi Arabia.

Man, it feels morbid, but I'd actually pick Saudi Arabia over Iran by the thinnest hair of desire should the two come to war.

That being said, Saudi Arabia got expensive toys and this there is no doubt of, but Iran s hardened comparatively and not cheap with a lot of higher previous investments on the field which does play a tremendous role. While I don't think Iran would have a chance compared to the Israeli tradition of logistically-targeted genius, IE, strike whatever can strike you before they actually strike, I do think any conflict with Saudi Arabia would be prolonged and have relatively few casualties, unless they both violated Irak's border in which case that'd be the principled battleground.

[Asigna]

Saudi Arabia spends 80 BILLION dollars on defense (that's is more than Russia). Iran won't dare to fight Saudi Arabia.

Man, it feels morbid, but I'd actually pick Saudi Arabia over Iran by the thinnest hair of desire should the two come to war.

That being said, Saudi Arabia got expensive toys and this there is no doubt of, but Iran s hardened comparatively and not cheap with a lot of higher previous investments on the field which does play a tremendous role. While I don't think Iran would have a chance compared to the Israeli tradition of logistically-targeted genius, IE, strike whatever can strike you before they actually strike, I do think any conflict with Saudi Arabia would be prolonged and have relatively few casualties, unless they both violated Irak's border in which case that'd be the principled battleground.

The real question would be what Saudi would do once it actually occupies Yemen. Would it empower the Hadi government or install a Sunni puppet in place in order to counter ballance the Shia regime in Iraq in its continuous anti shia war against Iran?

Surprisingly, PressTV and Al Arabiya are relatively quiet about sectarianism, or is just because they're not really relevant enough to make their articles read worthy.

[Organized States]

'Foreign Troops' land in Aden

[Teemant]

'Foreign Troops' land in Aden

Still we don't know who did land there.

[Alsheb]

Man, it feels morbid, but I'd actually pick Saudi Arabia over Iran by the thinnest hair of desire should the two come to war.

That being said, Saudi Arabia got expensive toys and this there is no doubt of, but Iran s hardened comparatively and not cheap with a lot of higher previous investments on the field which does play a tremendous role. While I don't think Iran would have a chance compared to the Israeli tradition of logistically-targeted genius, IE, strike whatever can strike you before they actually strike, I do think any conflict with Saudi Arabia would be prolonged and have relatively few casualties, unless they both violated Irak's border in which case that'd be the principled battleground.

The real question would be what Saudi would do once it actually occupies Yemen. Would it empower the Hadi government or install a Sunni puppet in place in order to counter ballance the Shia regime in Iraq in its continuous anti shia war against Iran?

Surprisingly, PressTV and Al Arabiya are relatively quiet about sectarianism, or is just because they're not really relevant enough to make their articles read worthy.

What they will do is have a long and bloody insurgency on their hands for the years and years to come. It's not just the Houthis who don't want another Saudi puppet state. Many Sunnis oppose it too. One of the reasonw why Saleh was originally deposed in the first place is because he was seen as a Saudi puppet, despite being Zaydi himself.

[Organized States]

'Foreign Troops' land in Aden

Still we don't know who did land there.

I suspect it's the Saudis or the Egyptians.

Mainly because Coalition airstrikes intensified within not too long after whoever landed.

Though, it might be the Iranians, but I doubt it.

[Laanvia]

These Shi'ite rebels need to get whats coming to them: Devestation.

Hadi will prevail.

[Alsheb]

These Shi'ite rebels need to get whats coming to them: Devestation.

Hadi will prevail.

People like you are the reason why we can't have nice things.

[Dain II Ironfoot]

Yemen asks the Saudi-led coalition to send ground troops.

COMING UP NEXT: Houthi government asks Iran to intervene, going against their previous vow to make it through the war without having to seek Iranian aid.

Or

Houthi vows "intensive guerilla war".

Or

Houthi vows to "make Saudis suffer in Yemeni soil".

Just as they all do...

In all hopes, that the Aden government survives and remodels the Yemeni government into a federal one to accommodate the interests of Sunnis, Shiites and southerners.

Its actually that government that doesn't want such things.

COMING UP NEXT: Houthi government asks Iran to intervene, going against their previous vow to make it through the war without having to seek Iranian aid.

Or

Houthi vows "intensive guerilla war".

Or

Houthi vows to "make Saudis suffer in Yemeni soil".

Just as they all do...

In all hopes, that the Aden government survives and remodels the Yemeni government into a federal one to accommodate the interests of Sunnis, Shiites and southerners.

Saudi Arabia spends 80 BILLION dollars on defense (that's is more than Russia). Iran won't dare to fight Saudi Arabia.

Have you even looked at the two? If those two would get 1vs1 head on Iran would win, there's no doubt about that.

These Shi'ite rebels need to get whats coming to them: Devestation.

Hadi will prevail.

And what about the Sunni rebels?

This isn't a Shia VS sunni battle, its a Tribal VS government battle and with the involvement of Saudi Arabia it has become another Iran VS Saudi conflict.
Anyhow, religion doesn't even play a role in it; That is, if you look at the facts and not at the media.

[Laanvia]

These Shi'ite rebels need to get whats coming to them: Devestation.

Hadi will prevail.

People like you are the reason why we can't have nice things.

Are people like you, who support extremists such as Hizbullah, the Houthis, Novorossia and Bashar any better?

[Teemant]

COMING UP NEXT: Houthi government asks Iran to intervene, going against their previous vow to make it through the war without having to seek Iranian aid.

Or

Houthi vows "intensive guerilla war".

Or

Houthi vows to "make Saudis suffer in Yemeni soil".

Just as they all do...

In all hopes, that the Aden government survives and remodels the Yemeni government into a federal one to accommodate the interests of Sunnis, Shiites and southerners.

Its actually that government that doesn't want such things.

Saudi Arabia spends 80 BILLION dollars on defense (that's is more than Russia). Iran won't dare to fight Saudi Arabia.

Have you even looked at the two? If those two would get 1vs1 head on Iran would win, there's no doubt about that.

These Shi'ite rebels need to get whats coming to them: Devestation.

Hadi will prevail.

And what about the Sunni rebels?

This isn't a Shia VS sunni battle, its a Tribal VS government battle and with the involvement of Saudi Arabia it has become another Iran VS Saudi conflict.
Anyhow, religion doesn't even play a role in it; That is, if you look at the facts and not at the media.

Iran wouldn't win. It's that simple. I don't know why Iran is so over mystified.

[Organized States]

Have you even looked at the two? If those two would get 1vs1 head on Iran would win, there's no doubt about that.

What the hell are you talking about? Saudi's got the best-trained, most well-funded and equipped military on the Gulf. Iran would get beaten around the block by Saudi.

[Laanvia]

COMING UP NEXT: Houthi government asks Iran to intervene, going against their previous vow to make it through the war without having to seek Iranian aid.

Or

Houthi vows "intensive guerilla war".

Or

Houthi vows to "make Saudis suffer in Yemeni soil".

Just as they all do...

In all hopes, that the Aden government survives and remodels the Yemeni government into a federal one to accommodate the interests of Sunnis, Shiites and southerners.

Its actually that government that doesn't want such things.

Saudi Arabia spends 80 BILLION dollars on defense (that's is more than Russia). Iran won't dare to fight Saudi Arabia.

Have you even looked at the two? If those two would get 1vs1 head on Iran would win, there's no doubt about that.

These Shi'ite rebels need to get whats coming to them: Devestation.

Hadi will prevail.

And what about the Sunni rebels?

This isn't a Shia VS sunni battle, its a Tribal VS government battle and with the involvement of Saudi Arabia it has become another Iran VS Saudi conflict.
Anyhow, religion doesn't even play a role in it; That is, if you look at the facts and not at the media.

I never actually said that it was a Religious or Sectarian conflict. I simply and correctly referred to the Houthis as Shi'ite.

Although Saudi Arabia are largely Sunni and would love to f*ck over Iran and the Houthi thugs.

[Alsheb]

People like you are the reason why we can't have nice things.

Are people like you, who support extremists such as Hizbullah, the Houthis, Novorossia and Bashar any better?

So fighting against racism and oppression, and for a society of equals is called "extremism" now?

[Alsheb]

Its actually that government that doesn't want such things.



Have you even looked at the two? If those two would get 1vs1 head on Iran would win, there's no doubt about that.


And what about the Sunni rebels?

This isn't a Shia VS sunni battle, its a Tribal VS government battle and with the involvement of Saudi Arabia it has become another Iran VS Saudi conflict.
Anyhow, religion doesn't even play a role in it; That is, if you look at the facts and not at the media.

I never actually said that it was a Religious or Sectarian conflict. I simply and correctly referred to the Houthis as Shi'ite.

Although Saudi Arabia are largely Sunni and would love to f*ck over Iran and the Houthi thugs.

You want to make it a religious sectarian conflict though, with your blatant racism towards Shias.

[Laanvia]

Are people like you, who support extremists such as Hizbullah, the Houthis, Novorossia and Bashar any better?

So fighting against racism and oppression, and for a society of equals is called "extremism" now?

It has always been

I never actually said that it was a Religious or Sectarian conflict. I simply and correctly referred to the Houthis as Shi'ite.

Although Saudi Arabia are largely Sunni and would love to f*ck over Iran and the Houthi thugs.

You want to make it a religious sectarian conflict though, with your blatant racism towards Shias.

Ok then, at what point was I racist towards Shias?

[Laanvia]

I never actually said that it was a Religious or Sectarian conflict. I simply and correctly referred to the Houthis as Shi'ite.

Although Saudi Arabia are largely Sunni and would love to f*ck over Iran and the Houthi thugs.

You want to make it a religious sectarian conflict though, with your blatant racism towards Shias.

I didn't ever say that I wanted to "make it sectarian", did I?

[Cyllea]

These Shi'ite rebels need to get whats coming to them: Devestation.

Hadi will prevail.

You know that by saying that, you inherently support a complete and utter campaign of genocide and annihalation of the shia people in Yemen, correct?

[Laanvia]

These Shi'ite rebels need to get whats coming to them: Devestation.

Hadi will prevail.

You know that by saying that, you inherently support a complete and utter campaign of genocide and annihalation of the shia people in Yemen, correct?

No.
By saying that, I support the bombardment and (hopefully) eventual defeat of the Houthis and Victory of Hadis forces and the Coalition.

At no point did I say "Hello guys, I'm Laanvia and I openly support the Genocide and complete Annihalation of the Shi'ite people inside Yemen".

Don't come to assumptions next time