Saudi Arabia intervenes in Yemen

[Alsheb]

Hmm, it seems that alot of Yemeni forces have sided with the Houthi's, and that the Yemeni Airforce and the Yemeni Republican Guard are also under Houthi control...
Seems like Hadi has lost a fair amount of friends in his country.

Hadi's government was always a Saudi puppet regime. I'd say his only "friends" are in Riyadh.
But it is good news to see his powerbase in Yemen crumble even further.

[Alsheb]

In case you forgot hezbollah actually beat israel.

from the mid 1980s-2000 hezbollah failed against the IDF and SLA. There were Shia and Druze fighting in the SLA against Hezbollah too. It was due to their pull out that Hezbollah moved in to take those positions. In 2006 I agree, Hezbollah caused a lot of casualties, but if the IDF invaded with 80,000 forces like it did in 1982 everything from the border to Hezbollahs south Beirut stronghold in Dahyieh would be crushed.

You sound like you'd actually like such a thing to happen...

[Alsheb]

Hezbollah wouldn't actually... It even has a seperate militia for Christians and Sunni's.
Most Sunni's would take Hezbollah over Al-Qaeda simply becouse Hezbollah isn't as reckless and foolish as Al-Qaeda.

I'm going to just say this now, you're full of shit. No real Sunni who has an atom's weight of self respect would join Hizb'illah,Christians yes but seriously? Yes,yes we have all seen the Hizb'illah Nasheed showing the Maronite choir and the Sunni muftis and the water fall with Nasrallah's portrait well you know what that's propaganda. Only a minority of Sunnis support them. I have personally met 1 yeah that's right one out of the hundreds of people I know. Hizb'illah is a terrorist organization who supports and funds murder,rape,theft,and tyranny. What do you believe all of Nasrallah's barking on the joke of the Ashura "Anti-Tyranny" perades in Bayrut? Yeah well here is Nasrallah's hypocrisy he goes up to the podium and say's every speech "Allow me to speak as the [b]Shiite[b] this one time." and the crowd roars and than he says "Today is ashura where we take up after Hussien(RA) and fight tyranny therefore we are taking the side of Assad." that's his speech from when he pledged support to the Assad dictatorship. He even acknowledges Assad's dictatorship in an interview with RT I believe and proceeds to compare him with god by saying "I support just dictators such as Bashir Al-Assad, god is a just dictator as well so what's the difference." When he was asked about how he supported the Arab spring els where but not in Syria. And by the way if you think for a second the people of Yemen are running out for the Houthies your blind. People in Yemen are afraid of the Houthies and are ready to shed blood to stop them they are ready they are gathering weapons and arms to fight these Iranian terrorists who are no different than Hizb'illah or Badr or IRGC. Yemen will not stand for such terrorist to run a Sunni nation look at Syria and there are less Alawites than Zaydis in Yemen. So what the hell makes you think they will stand for this crap? In Syria the Shiites run the 80% Sunni nation and they are committing systematic genocide against the Sunnis and the Kurds and non-government supporters the only Sunnis who support Assad are bribed sleezy "clerics".

> "Syrian Shias committing systematic genocide against Sunnis"



Aside from Assad himself, most of the Syrian government is actually Sunni, mate. Something you would have known if you had done even the slightest little bit of research.

[The Greater Lebanon]

from the mid 1980s-2000 hezbollah failed against the IDF and SLA. There were Shia and Druze fighting in the SLA against Hezbollah too. It was due to their pull out that Hezbollah moved in to take those positions. In 2006 I agree, Hezbollah caused a lot of casualties, but if the IDF invaded with 80,000 forces like it did in 1982 everything from the border to Hezbollahs south Beirut stronghold in Dahyieh would be crushed.

You sound like you'd actually like such a thing to happen...

It's happened before

[Alsheb]

You sound like you'd actually like such a thing to happen...

It's happened before

Yes, and it was a disaster for Lebanon. Not on the least because of the treason and collaboration of types like the SLA.

[Teemant]

I think Saudi Arabia and Egypt will send their ground forces in Yemen in the next few days. Now there is a also a news that Arab league will make joint military force (but I don't know if this has something to do with Yemen).

[Dain II Ironfoot]

No, Hezbollah is defending Lebanone becouse wether you want it or not, they are Lebanese in the first place. Aside from that it is its interest to keep others out of Lebanon.
Well, perhaps Lebanon should have faced the Israëli occupation then, that eventually was the main event where Hezbollah got its support from and still keeps its support with, they chased an agressor out of their country at a moment in which the government failed to do so.
I'm not saying that Hezbollah is great or anything, just saying that it does defend Lebanon just like it proved several times now while the Lebanese army fails to do that job.

Again no they are not, yes they are Lebanese. Hezbollah and Nasrallah all came out against the million plus demonstrators in 2005 who called for the Syrian army to ends its occupation of Lebanon. Hezbollah is a proxy for Iran and an ally of Assad this is why they were vehmently ant-cedar revolution which the majority of people in Lebanon called for. Israeli occupation? Lebanon wants to maintain economic ties and stability with the other Arab states which is why we sent a few thousand troops to fight Israel in 1948. Israel could annex Lebanon if it wanted to with its army. In 1982 it wiped out every single form of resistance against its forces and the Syrian military on its way to Beirut. Lebanon should not be dragged into war. Its foreign powers that want to take advantage of this country and use it as a base to wage their political agendas. if Hezbollah trully wants the good for Lebanon they would give all their heavy weapons and equipment and put it at the disposal of the state and continue to be a political party. Then if Israel really wants to destroy Lebanon they can invade and this time all of Lebanon will fight them.

Yeah, let Israel take over Lebanon, perfect plan. You know, if that's what you want then just say it cause you're simply denying that the Lebanese forces aren't doing shit against Israëli Agression while Hezboolah does.
I agree, Hezbollah is a militia of Iran and its allied with the Syrian government, but once again, they're Lebanese in the first place and will protect it whenever needed, or do you seriously believe that Hezbollah wouldn't care if IS would set up shop in their country?

Hezbollah wouldn't actually... It even has a seperate militia for Christians and Sunni's.
Most Sunni's would take Hezbollah over Al-Qaeda simply becouse Hezbollah isn't as reckless and foolish as Al-Qaeda.

I'm going to just say this now, you're full of shit. No real Sunni who has an atom's weight of self respect would join Hizb'illah,Christians yes but seriously? Yes,yes we have all seen the Hizb'illah Nasheed showing the Maronite choir and the Sunni muftis and the water fall with Nasrallah's portrait well you know what that's propaganda. Only a minority of Sunnis support them. I have personally met 1 yeah that's right one out of the hundreds of people I know. Hizb'illah is a terrorist organization who supports and funds murder,rape,theft,and tyranny. What do you believe all of Nasrallah's barking on the joke of the Ashura "Anti-Tyranny" perades in Bayrut? Yeah well here is Nasrallah's hypocrisy he goes up to the podium and say's every speech "Allow me to speak as the [b]Shiite[b] this one time." and the crowd roars and than he says "Today is ashura where we take up after Hussien(RA) and fight tyranny therefore we are taking the side of Assad." that's his speech from when he pledged support to the Assad dictatorship. He even acknowledges Assad's dictatorship in an interview with RT I believe and proceeds to compare him with god by saying "I support just dictators such as Bashir Al-Assad, god is a just dictator as well so what's the difference." When he was asked about how he supported the Arab spring els where but not in Syria. And by the way if you think for a second the people of Yemen are running out for the Houthies your blind. People in Yemen are afraid of the Houthies and are ready to shed blood to stop them they are ready they are gathering weapons and arms to fight these Iranian terrorists who are no different than Hizb'illah or Badr or IRGC. Yemen will not stand for such terrorist to run a Sunni nation look at Syria and there are less Alawites than Zaydis in Yemen. So what the hell makes you think they will stand for this crap? In Syria the Shiites run the 80% Sunni nation and they are committing systematic genocide against the Sunnis and the Kurds and non-government supporters the only Sunnis who support Assad are bribed sleezy "clerics".

So, i'm full of shit becouse you want to believe in these delusions? Go ahead dude, believe in them, just please don't bother me with it.

Hmm, it seems that alot of Yemeni forces have sided with the Houthi's, and that the Yemeni Airforce and the Yemeni Republican Guard are also under Houthi control...
Seems like Hadi has lost a fair amount of friends in his country.

That'll be Saleh's doing. He's thrown his weight behind the Houthis and taken his party and much of the army with him.

It most likely is indeed.

No, Hezbollah is defending Lebanone becouse wether you want it or not, they are Lebanese in the first place. Aside from that it is its interest to keep others out of Lebanon.
Well, perhaps Lebanon should have faced the Israëli occupation then, that eventually was the main event where Hezbollah got its support from and still keeps its support with, they chased an agressor out of their country at a moment in which the government failed to do so.
I'm not saying that Hezbollah is great or anything, just saying that it does defend Lebanon just like it proved several times now while the Lebanese army fails to do that job.

Yeah? Well if there sole duty is defending Lebanon they should GTFO of Syria that's why they where attacked by the FSA in the first place for smuggling IRGC and arms to Assad's forces.

Where did i said it was their sole duty?
Also, you do know that if nobody acts against these extremists like Al-Nusra and IS they will swarm Lebanon sooner or later right? Now lets look who is actually doing something to keep them away from the Lebanese border, ah yes, that's Hezbollah.

[The Greater Lebanon]

Yeah, let Israel take over Lebanon, perfect plan. You know, if that's what you want then just say it cause you're simply denying that the Lebanese forces aren't doing shit against Israëli Agression while Hezboolah does.
I agree, Hezbollah is a militia of Iran and its allied with the Syrian government, but once again, they're Lebanese in the first place and will protect it whenever needed, or do you seriously believe that Hezbollah wouldn't care if IS would set up shop in their country?

Not let Israel take over Lebanon, but rather the Lebanese army defend Lebanon instead of a group that is a funded and allied to foreign powers. If the Lebanese army had all the weapons and equipment of Hezbollah and combine that with the unity of Sunnis Christians and Shias under THE LEBANESE ARMY not a paramilitary group we can see if Israel wants to really invade and destroy Lebanon. And if they really want to they will be be fighting all of us not just Hezbollah. Of course I know Hezbollah would defend the borders of Lebanon, but those forces on the border should be flying the Lebanese flag and remove that yellow symbol and have our lebanese flag. The Lebanese Forces disarmed their heavy weapons in 1990, they can't fight anyone, plus the Lebanese Forces betrayed its own supporters by siding with the Syrians in 1990 against the Lebanese army. The leader of the lebanese forces should of have stayed in jail in syria and died there he was lucky he got out.

[The Greater Lebanon]

It's happened before

Yes, and it was a disaster for Lebanon. Not on the least because of the treason and collaboration of types like the SLA.

Itt was a disaster for the PLO and Syria, Lebanon was to eventually sign a peace-agreement with Israel just like Egypt and Jordan. However due to the assassination of our president by terrorists who actively called for the merger of Lebanon into Syria(obviously ordered by the mass murderer Assad) Lebanon continued to be in a state of war. The Men, Christian, Shia and Druze who fought in the SLA were not committed any treason and they fought very well against suicide waves of Hezbollah takfiris.

[Rio Cana]

I think Saudi Arabia and Egypt will send their ground forces in Yemen in the next few days. Now there is a also a news that Arab league will make joint military force (but I don't know if this has something to do with Yemen).

That is what they have been saying on the news, that a Joint Arab league army will going into Yemen. So the big question is, why did they not do this in the first place against ISIS. If it were not for US and NATO insistence some of those Arab nations flying sorties into ISIS controlled areas most likely would not be there.

Why does it seems that this so called intervention in Yemen has religious undertones more then anything. If the Yemeni rebels had all been Sunni we would not be seeing any Arab league force going into Yemen. Chances are that if ISIS had been Shia that Arabia and the Arab league would have taken the lead into sending troops there a long time ago even before the US and NATO got involved.

The US and the West need to be careful about being suckered into wars in this part of the world which are in fact religious wars, Sunni vs. Shia wars.

[Teemant]

I think Saudi Arabia and Egypt will send their ground forces in Yemen in the next few days. Now there is a also a news that Arab league will make joint military force (but I don't know if this has something to do with Yemen).

That is what they have been saying on the news, that a Joint Arab league army will going into Yemen. So the big question is, why did they not do this in the first place against ISIS. If it were not for US and NATO insistence some of those Arab nations flying sorties into ISIS controlled areas most likely would not be there.

Why does it seems that this so called intervention in Yemen has religious undertones more then anything. If the Yemeni rebels had all been Sunni we would not be seeing any Arab league force going into Yemen. Chances are that if ISIS had been Shia that Arabia and the Arab league would have taken the lead into sending troops there a long time ago even before the US and NATO got involved.

The US and the West need to be careful about being suckered into wars in this part of the world which are in fact religious war, Sunni vs. Shia wars.

Because Saudi Arabia has tried to fought as few wars as possible in my opinion. But I did read somewhere that they did want to build a physical border (north) to keep ISIS and other terrorists away. But I think the main reason why Arab/Gulf nations are acting is because of Iran. They (especially Saudi Arabia and Egpyt) don't want Yemen that's is under Iran rule.

[Alsheb]

Yes, and it was a disaster for Lebanon. Not on the least because of the treason and collaboration of types like the SLA.

Itt was a disaster for the PLO and Syria, Lebanon was to eventually sign a peace-agreement with Israel just like Egypt and Jordan. However due to the assassination of our president by terrorists who actively called for the merger of Lebanon into Syria(obviously ordered by the mass murderer Assad) Lebanon continued to be in a state of war. The Men, Christian, Shia and Druze who fought in the SLA were not committed any treason and they fought very well against suicide waves of Hezbollah takfiris.

So you admit it yourself that Lebanon was going to whimp out and sign a treaty with Israel? Egypt and Jordan both betrayed the entire Arab world by accepting and supporting Israel. The Jordanian monarchy's two-faced approach to the zionists is arguably one of the main causes why the Nakba was lost by the Arabs in the first place. Do you see those countries as examples? Really?

If not for Hezbollah and the PLO, Lebanon wouldn't even exist right now, but be just another part of Israel.

[United Russian Soviet States]

I am against intervention by other nations in any war. It shows imperialistic tendencies.

[Caribica]

I am against intervention by other nations in any war. It shows imperialistic tendencies.

Except the U.S, because we all know what knights in shining armor they are.

[Dain II Ironfoot]

Yeah, let Israel take over Lebanon, perfect plan. You know, if that's what you want then just say it cause you're simply denying that the Lebanese forces aren't doing shit against Israëli Agression while Hezboolah does.
I agree, Hezbollah is a militia of Iran and its allied with the Syrian government, but once again, they're Lebanese in the first place and will protect it whenever needed, or do you seriously believe that Hezbollah wouldn't care if IS would set up shop in their country?

Not let Israel take over Lebanon, but rather the Lebanese army defend Lebanon instead of a group that is a funded and allied to foreign powers. If the Lebanese army had all the weapons and equipment of Hezbollah and combine that with the unity of Sunnis Christians and Shias under THE LEBANESE ARMY not a paramilitary group we can see if Israel wants to really invade and destroy Lebanon. And if they really want to they will be be fighting all of us not just Hezbollah. Of course I know Hezbollah would defend the borders of Lebanon, but those forces on the border should be flying the Lebanese flag and remove that yellow symbol and have our lebanese flag. The Lebanese Forces disarmed their heavy weapons in 1990, they can't fight anyone, plus the Lebanese Forces betrayed its own supporters by siding with the Syrians in 1990 against the Lebanese army. The leader of the lebanese forces should of have stayed in jail in syria and died there he was lucky he got out.

Lebanon could have the equipment Hezbollah uses, yet they eventually turned away from weapon deals with Iran becouse they feared that other nations might complain. So basicly Lebanon itself choses sides aswell on the international stage.
Aside from that all, sure, at some point i'd like to see a united Lebanon aswell, but the time isn't there and Lebanon isn't stable enough to sustain such intergration. If peace once again returns to the region you'll see that Hezbollah will slowly get rid of its military capabilities aswell. Aslong as the region is a hotspot for agressors they will keep their military capabilities at their best form possible.

[Jamjai]

Saudi Arabia is trying to unite all the Arab nations against Iran because Iran is not Arab

Saudi Arabia wouldn't be able to do this without Egypt and I'm probably sure they are going to most of the ground forces

[Arkotania]

Saudi Arabia is trying to unite all the Arab nations against Iran because Iran is not Arab

Saudi Arabia wouldn't be able to do this without Egypt and I'm probably sure they are going to most of the ground forces

I'm still trying to understand if Egypt is actually "Arab". Their history really muddles it up.

[Alsheb]

Saudi Arabia is trying to unite all the Arab nations against Iran because Iran is not Arab

Saudi Arabia wouldn't be able to do this without Egypt and I'm probably sure they are going to most of the ground forces

I have often doubted what to think of the al Sisi regime in Egypt. The recent developments in Yemen have however put my doubts aside. Sisi is just another corrupted puppet of the West.

[Vasileus]

Saudi Arabia is trying to unite all the Arab nations against Iran because Iran is not Arab

Saudi Arabia wouldn't be able to do this without Egypt and I'm probably sure they are going to most of the ground forces

I'm still trying to understand if Egypt is actually "Arab". Their history really muddles it up.

No arab countries are really Arab. It's not even linguistic anymore, it's basically a shared history exploited for political gains by people like Nasser

[Insaeldor]

I am against intervention by other nations in any war. It shows imperialistic tendencies.

Protect intrest=/=Imperialistic tendencies.

Saudi Arabia isn't doing so they can colonize Uemen they are doing it so they don't have a Shia Rebel group causing instability in a neighboring nation.

[Dain II Ironfoot]

I am against intervention by other nations in any war. It shows imperialistic tendencies.

Protect intrest=/=Imperialistic tendencies.

Saudi Arabia isn't doing so they can colonize Uemen they are doing it so they don't have a Shia Rebel group causing instability in a neighboring nation.

The only one creating instability at this point is that coalition. Yemen has dealth with its own problems for a long time, coups and uprisings aren't new in the country and they sure weren't all Shia dominated. The whole instability is created by Saudi-Arabia as they support the former president. If they minded their own buisness this would have been over already and a new government would be on its way in Yemen.

[Dain II Ironfoot]

Saudi Arabia is trying to unite all the Arab nations against Iran because Iran is not Arab

Saudi Arabia wouldn't be able to do this without Egypt and I'm probably sure they are going to most of the ground forces

I'm still trying to understand if Egypt is actually "Arab". Their history really muddles it up.

Arab isn't really anything in that matter.
Just for fun, try and compare an Arab from Algeria, Egypt, Saudi-Arabia and Eritrea with eachother, they really have nothing in common.

[The Greater Lebanon]

Itt was a disaster for the PLO and Syria, Lebanon was to eventually sign a peace-agreement with Israel just like Egypt and Jordan. However due to the assassination of our president by terrorists who actively called for the merger of Lebanon into Syria(obviously ordered by the mass murderer Assad) Lebanon continued to be in a state of war. The Men, Christian, Shia and Druze who fought in the SLA were not committed any treason and they fought very well against suicide waves of Hezbollah takfiris.

So you admit it yourself that Lebanon was going to whimp out and sign a treaty with Israel? Egypt and Jordan both betrayed the entire Arab world by accepting and supporting Israel. The Jordanian monarchy's two-faced approach to the zionists is arguably one of the main causes why the Nakba was lost by the Arabs in the first place. Do you see those countries as examples? Really?

If not for Hezbollah and the PLO, Lebanon wouldn't even exist right now, but be just another part of Israel.

I love the way you think hahah, you sound like those guys from the 1960s and 70s. You must be very ignorant to think that the Israeli military can be defeated. The Arabs got their asses kicked in 3 wars, Israel today is by far stronger than what it was back then. The Palestinians illegally tried to take over Jordan and Hussein like the king he was kicked their ass. I see countries like Jordan and Egypt as not assholes who want to continue war like the pathetic regime of Assads. because of the PLO, Lebanon which was the jewel and pearl of the Middle east was destroyed. What assholes the Palestinians were to our country. We let them in when they no where to go. Israel never would have invaded Lebanon if it were not for the terrorist in PLO and Hezbollah constantly firing missiles and shooting at Israelis. You don't give a shit about people dying you just care about some failed Pan-Arabist ideology that is dead or almost dead. The Arabs know they cant beat Israel hence there are more important issues at hand, what should be done is to give the Palestinians a right to live and stop the stupid settlements but if you want to erase Israel from the map good luck beating the f16s, merkavas and nuclear weapons Israel has.

[The Greater Lebanon]

Not let Israel take over Lebanon, but rather the Lebanese army defend Lebanon instead of a group that is a funded and allied to foreign powers. If the Lebanese army had all the weapons and equipment of Hezbollah and combine that with the unity of Sunnis Christians and Shias under THE LEBANESE ARMY not a paramilitary group we can see if Israel wants to really invade and destroy Lebanon. And if they really want to they will be be fighting all of us not just Hezbollah. Of course I know Hezbollah would defend the borders of Lebanon, but those forces on the border should be flying the Lebanese flag and remove that yellow symbol and have our lebanese flag. The Lebanese Forces disarmed their heavy weapons in 1990, they can't fight anyone, plus the Lebanese Forces betrayed its own supporters by siding with the Syrians in 1990 against the Lebanese army. The leader of the lebanese forces should of have stayed in jail in syria and died there he was lucky he got out.

Lebanon could have the equipment Hezbollah uses, yet they eventually turned away from weapon deals with Iran becouse they feared that other nations might complain. So basicly Lebanon itself choses sides aswell on the international stage.
Aside from that all, sure, at some point i'd like to see a united Lebanon aswell, but the time isn't there and Lebanon isn't stable enough to sustain such intergration. If peace once again returns to the region you'll see that Hezbollah will slowly get rid of its military capabilities aswell. Aslong as the region is a hotspot for agressors they will keep their military capabilities at their best form possible.

There are still some non iranian aligned elements in Lebanon that can decide but Hezbollah knows its very strong, it has even penetrated the Lebanese army. Hezbollah has been very effective in assassinating Lebanese officials and people hence why not many stand up to it now. When you have one group that is virtually stronger than all other groups in the country there will never ever be stability. Foreigners want to use us as proxies to fight their war against Israel and destroy our country and its economy. Again there should be one army for all religious sects.

[The New Sea Territory]

It's a good move, Iranian backed rebels gaining control would be pretty bad. Egypt is also supporting this.