Woman throws molotov at prolife activists.

[The Rich Port]

Basically. No, wait...I think some stump preacher said it was a wake up call from god, but I can't find that story now so maybe I just made that up. Or my google fu is no good.

Yeah! Remember when this was all over the news in 2011? I mean, I don't, I only found this trying to find that stupid preacher story, but...yeah. Sure.

And yet the 8 people killed in attacks on abortion clinics are put at the same level as the thousands killed by Islamic Jihad. Liberal propaganda fail.

Thank you so much for pissing on the graves of these 8 people for the sake of making us liberals look dumb.

[The Batorys]

Montenegro fans threw a flare into the face of Russia's goalkeeper just now.

I can't help harboring less favorable opinions of groups whose members do such things.

Maybe the pro choice folks should forfeit a match, like Montenegro will.

That's not how it works.

[Thompson island]

This attack is disgusting. This woman was acting like a communist revolutionary against peaceful activists.

The irony. To think after all these years of pro-life fanatics slaughtering abortion patients and doctors around the world that somebody might decide to reciprocate in similar fashion. I guess it's the old adage of getting what's coming to you; surely you can't possibly be surprised that targeting abortion clinics with violence results in more violence? If the story is even true, of which I have my doubts, perhaps the pro-life movement might be inspired to do a better job of encouraging people not to murder abortion clinic staff?

you dont show proof so stfu,
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... pro-lifer/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... t-beating/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... on-clinic/
proof that this happens to pro life activists, so f*** you

[Fartsniffage]

Montenegro fans threw a flare into the face of Russia's goalkeeper just now.

I can't help harboring less favorable opinions of groups whose members do such things.

Maybe the pro choice folks should forfeit a match, like Montenegro will.

This isn't a bad point. Doing some quick maths, we're at 5137 incidents of violence by anti-choicers.

That puts anti-choice on negative 15,411 points. This incident puts pro-choicers on negative 3 points, assuming that this woman did it for this reason.

I'm pretty sure that pro-choicers get to go to the European Championships.....

[Cannot think of a name]

The irony. To think after all these years of pro-life fanatics slaughtering abortion patients and doctors around the world that somebody might decide to reciprocate in similar fashion. I guess it's the old adage of getting what's coming to you; surely you can't possibly be surprised that targeting abortion clinics with violence results in more violence? If the story is even true, of which I have my doubts, perhaps the pro-life movement might be inspired to do a better job of encouraging people not to murder abortion clinic staff?

you dont show proof so stfu,
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... pro-lifer/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... t-beating/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... on-clinic/
proof that this happens to pro life activists, so f*** you

These are all attacks on Bud Shaver. No one finds that a little weird?

Anyway, can't find anything other than Bud Shaver telling Operation Rescue someone ran over his sign or a woman losing her shit (we don't see what happened before she lost her shit, but fair cop, losing your shit and hitting someone isn't okay...). Considering that if you google this molotov story you'll see anti-abortion and the like websites attribute this woman to all kinds of shit (Wendy Davis supporter...no fucking kidding, that's a headline), it'd be super swell if your 'fuck you' sources were something other than just Bud Shaver has the worst luck ever.

[Norstal]

Basically. No, wait...I think some stump preacher said it was a wake up call from god, but I can't find that story now so maybe I just made that up. Or my google fu is no good.

Yeah! Remember when this was all over the news in 2011? I mean, I don't, I only found this trying to find that stupid preacher story, but...yeah. Sure.

And yet the 8 people killed in attacks on abortion clinics are put at the same level as the thousands killed by Islamic Jihad. Liberal propaganda fail.

And you're so unconcerned for the billions that died of old age, cancer, and car accidents. Conservative propaganda fail.

[Keyboard Warriors]

The irony. To think after all these years of pro-life fanatics slaughtering abortion patients and doctors around the world that somebody might decide to reciprocate in similar fashion. I guess it's the old adage of getting what's coming to you; surely you can't possibly be surprised that targeting abortion clinics with violence results in more violence? If the story is even true, of which I have my doubts, perhaps the pro-life movement might be inspired to do a better job of encouraging people not to murder abortion clinic staff?

you dont show proof so stfu,
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... pro-lifer/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... t-beating/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... on-clinic/
proof that this happens to pro life activists, so f*** you

My god, you certainly are one angry little man. Anyway, here's that stfu proof which you probably could have googled for yourself. If you want to pull your calculator out, I think you'll see that anti-choice violence far eclipses that committed by the other side, really makes a mockery of that "pro life" shit that you fellas love to bandy around. And it really does make it hard for me to have any shred of sympathy for anti-choice activists who encounter violence while staking out clinics, seeing as you either enjoy watching or can't be bothered speaking out against the violence committed by the rest of your crew.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Nobody should be throwing molotov cocktails at anybody else. There's a reason we have laws against that.

But the response of the protestors is pretty sickening too. Jumping to conclusions that she's lashing out because of a bad experience with abortion? "Culture of death"? That's a load of crap. I can see why people get angry with these activists, even if a molotov cocktail is not an appropriate way to express that anger.

[AiliailiA]

Thompson Island's sources led me to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jim_Pouillon

Harlan Drake did murder a pro-life activist who regularly held up protest signs with pictures of dead fetuses, outside a high school. He says because he was offended by the pictures, which his own children saw regularly. He then went and murdered another man he resented for the man's treatment of Drake's mother, then tried to goad police into shooting him, and on his first day in custody tried to kill himself.

This appears to be the only murder of a pro-life activist.

Drake is a double murderer and quite rightly has been convicted and imprisoned for life.

[Nazi Flower Power]

The irony. To think after all these years of pro-life fanatics slaughtering abortion patients and doctors around the world that somebody might decide to reciprocate in similar fashion. I guess it's the old adage of getting what's coming to you; surely you can't possibly be surprised that targeting abortion clinics with violence results in more violence? If the story is even true, of which I have my doubts, perhaps the pro-life movement might be inspired to do a better job of encouraging people not to murder abortion clinic staff?

you dont show proof so stfu,
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... pro-lifer/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... t-beating/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... on-clinic/
proof that this happens to pro life activists, so f*** you

Operation Rescue is not a trustworthy source. They are not reasonable people who happen to be anti-abortion. They are extremists who have a history of promoting anti-abortion violence.

From Wikipedia:

March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.[10]

[Nazi Flower Power]

you dont show proof so stfu,
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... pro-lifer/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... t-beating/
http://www.operationrescue.org/archives ... on-clinic/
proof that this happens to pro life activists, so f*** you

These are all attacks on Bud Shaver. No one finds that a little weird?

Anyway, can't find anything other than Bud Shaver telling Operation Rescue someone ran over his sign or a woman losing her shit (we don't see what happened before she lost her shit, but fair cop, losing your shit and hitting someone isn't okay...). Considering that if you google this molotov story you'll see anti-abortion and the like websites attribute this woman to all kinds of shit (Wendy Davis supporter...no fucking kidding, that's a headline), it'd be super swell if your 'fuck you' sources were something other than just Bud Shaver has the worst luck ever.

So.... Today I learned that Bud Shaver is a drama queen.

[Aelex]

Nobody should be throwing molotov cocktails at anybody else. There's a reason we have laws against that.

But the response of the protestors is pretty sickening too. Jumping to conclusions that she's lashing out because of a bad experience with abortion? "Culture of death"? That's a load of crap. I can see why people get angry with these activists, even if a molotov cocktail is not an appropriate way to express that anger.

Well, I'm not ok with that statement... Throwing molotov IS an appropriate way to express your anger, but throwing it in the face of people isn't. Every people who was part of a manifestation throwed a molotov at least once time in it's live; throwing it in front of the police is ok but throwing it at the police isn't...

[Settrah]

Throwing molotov IS an appropriate way to express your anger

I think you need to stop playing GTA.

Like, right now, tbh.

[Aelex]

I think you need to stop playing games like GTA.

Are you really one of those who think killing people I.G = killing people I.R.L ?
Still, I'm not saying it's a good way to express your anger. Just that it IS a way.

[Settrah]

I think you need to stop playing games like GTA.

I'm not saying it's a good way to express your anger. Just that it IS a way.

No that literally is what you said. You said it was an appropriate way to express anger. Appropriate meaning proper, or norm.

You, moments ago, just said it was a good way to respond to anger.

God forbid a world without self control or empathy, where we firebomb our surroundings, just because we've had a bad day.

[Aelex]

No that literally is what you said. You said it was an appropriate way to express anger. Appropriate meaning proper, or norm.

You literally just said it was a good way to respond to anger.

God forbid a world where we firebomb our surroundings, just because we've had a bad day.

Appropriate way =/= good way.
Still, I guess you're not aware that political bombing was (and is still) a quite "normal" way to express your opinion?

[Settrah]

No that literally is what you said. You said it was an appropriate way to express anger. Appropriate meaning proper, or norm.

You literally just said it was a good way to respond to anger.

God forbid a world where we firebomb our surroundings, just because we've had a bad day.

Appropriate way =/= good way.
Still, I guess you're not aware that political bombing was (and is still) a quite "normal" way to express your opinion?

Appropriate means proper. As in a recommended norm of how to do things.

Political bombings are done by childish extremist groups, that throw tantrums because people don't automatically share their world views. It is not a justified automatic response to emotive stimuli.

If you honestly think throwing molotov cocktails around the place is the proper way to behave in every day life, just because you don't share someone else's opinion, you're going to find yourself in the nick pretty darn soon. I'm just saying.

[Keyboard Warriors]

No that literally is what you said. You said it was an appropriate way to express anger. Appropriate meaning proper, or norm.

You literally just said it was a good way to respond to anger.

God forbid a world where we firebomb our surroundings, just because we've had a bad day.

Appropriate way =/= good way.
Still, I guess you're not aware that political bombing was (and is still) a quite "normal" way to express your opinion?

Appropriate means suitable, practical, proper, fitting; not common or popular. Firebombing things to express your opinion is most certainly not appropriate nor good nor any other word which could stand in for these two terms and I'm completely lost to explain how you could think of it as such. And no, firebombing is not a "normal" way to express your anger in any sense of that word either. Jesus, what's wrong with you?

[Aelex]

Appropriate means proper. As in a recommended norm of how to do things.

Political bombings are done by childish extremist groups, that throw tantrums because people don't automatically share their world views.

If you honestly think throwing molotov cocktails around the place is the proper way to behave in every day life, just because you don't share someone else's opinion, you're going to find yourself in the nick pretty darn soon. I'm just saying.

I love how each time I tell you that you use strawmen, you still re-use them...

Appropriate mean congru,and something congru isn't always proper, just adapted to the situation.
Also, are you saying that the Résistances during WW2 were just "childish extremist groups throwing tantrum"? Damn, that's quite hardcore...

[Aelex]

Appropriate means suitable, practical, proper, fitting; not common or popular. Firebombing things to express your opinion is most certainly not appropriate nor good nor any other word which could stand in for these two terms and I'm completely lost to explain how you could think of it as such. And no, firebombing is not a "normal" way to express your anger in any sense of that word either. Jesus, what's wrong with you?

Ok, let's clarify this shit now. Violence is, and always was, a response to any problem.
Is it a good response? No. But is it still a way to express your way of thinking even stupidly? Yes.
I'm not saying that we SHOULD arson everything just to show our point, I say that we can't say that people who put fire to shit to make a point don't make a point, even if it's not the point they were trying to make.

[Settrah]

Appropriate means proper. As in a recommended norm of how to do things.

Political bombings are done by childish extremist groups, that throw tantrums because people don't automatically share their world views.

If you honestly think throwing molotov cocktails around the place is the proper way to behave in every day life, just because you don't share someone else's opinion, you're going to find yourself in the nick pretty darn soon. I'm just saying.

I love how each time I tell you that you use strawmen, you still re-use them...

Appropriate mean congru,and something congru isn't always proper, just adapted to the situation.
Also, are you saying that the Résistances during WW2 were just "childish extremist groups throwing tantrum"? Damn, that's quite hardcore...

Not only did you NOT say that, but how is anything I said even remotely a strawman anyway? I basically just referenced what you had typed yourself.

Look, if you don't understand the definitions of certain words, you probably shouldn't be throwing them around.

Appropriate means suitable, practical, proper, fitting; not common or popular. Firebombing things to express your opinion is most certainly not appropriate nor good nor any other word which could stand in for these two terms and I'm completely lost to explain how you could think of it as such. And no, firebombing is not a "normal" way to express your anger in any sense of that word either. Jesus, what's wrong with you?

Ok, let's clarify this shit now. Violence is, and always was, a response to any problem.
Is it a good response? No. But is it still a way to express your way of thinking even stupidly? Yes.
I'm not saying that we SHOULD arson everything just to show our point, I say that we can't say that people who put fire to shit to make a point don't make a point, even if it's not the point they were trying to make.

Kinda just sounds like you're trying to worm your way out tbh.

You've gone from anarchist 101 "violence is a solution! Throw cocktails in front of crowds!", to "no it isn't great, but it is something people can do".

Yes it is something people CAN do, but it's a fucking dumb thing to do. And it is not appropriate at all. That's what we are trying to tell you.

[Storica]

“We know that many women are hurting from past abortion experiences,” said Executive Director Heather Gardner. “One of the ways people sometimes lash out is through anger and violence. We pray for this woman and pray for healing in her heart if she is hurting from a past abortion.”

"They gon done this here cos abortions are real bad yall"

Kinda reminds me of Pennsatucky from Orange is the new Black

[Aelex]

Not only did you NOT say that, but how is anything I said even remotely a strawman anyway? I basically just referenced what you had typed yourself.

If you don't understand the definitions of certain words, you probably shouldn't be throwing them around.

You used part of what I said you quote "hors-contexte" to try to make a point; that's basically called "straw-man".
Plus, are you trying to shame me, whose native language isn't english, because I don't speak your language as good as you?

[Settrah]

What are you even going on about?

Look.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/appropriate

appropriate
[adj. uh-proh-pree-it; v. uh-proh-pree-eyt]
Spell Syllables
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
adjective
1.
suitable or fitting for a particular purpose, person, occasion, etc.:
an appropriate example; an appropriate dress.





Stop arguing and using words as boldly as you were, if you don't know their definition. It really isn't that complex.

[AiliailiA]

Not only did you NOT say that, but how is anything I said even remotely a strawman anyway? I basically just referenced what you had typed yourself.

If you don't understand the definitions of certain words, you probably shouldn't be throwing them around.

You used part of what I said you quote "hors-contexte" to try to make a point; that's basically called "straw-man".
Plus, are you trying to shame me, whose native language isn't english, because I don't speak your language as good as you?

The first post after you used the word, tried to educate you about the meaning of the word. Nothing that came after was necessary, if you'd just said "OK thanks" and rephrased your opinion with some other word.

And anyone who didn't respect that would be getting some criticism from me now.