Woman throws molotov at prolife activists.

[Aelex]

No. Think about it for a second. Do you think that for expressing your political beliefs, something we all do here a lot, you should have a molotov cocktail thrown at you?

Well, for a long time violence was part of the politic process and just another way to express your political idea...

[Ifreann]

If I would see religious fanatics protesting in front of a hospital or pharmacy trying to impede me to get healed because "its all part of the God's plan, if God didn't wanted you to get ill, you would be healthy", even I would get pissed a bit. They have the right to believe whatever they want, they have the right to protest whatever they want. They don't have the right to force me to believe what they believe, they don't have to right to ban me from doing stuff that they don't want to do. So the answer to the thread is: She threw JUST a Molotov against them? She didn't have anything better? A bazooka would have been epic, or at least a heavy rifle.

theres a difference between going to the hospital because you had a heart attack and going there to commit murder.

I find it hard to believe, at times, that any of the people who describe abortion as murder honestly believe that. I mean, who sees someone they think is about to commit murder, and decides to make up some placards and protest?

[Alyakia]

my posting is murder

*click*

another one bites the dust

[Norstal]

Abortion is murder. Wearing condom is murder. Using birth-pills is murder. Tolerating Islam is murdera good thing when they aren't violent. Getting vaccinated is murder. Gay marriage is murder a sin but I won't bomb anyone. Taxation is murdersomething I don't like but accept as part of life.

What isn't murder to you people?

Way to generalize, I'm not one of those conservatives. Many conservatives I know aren't like that either

You generalized abortion to murder. I just followed your example. If you make something that isn't murder, murder, then you're lessening the value of the term and the victims of actual murders.

[The Black Forrest]

Abortion is murder. Wearing condom is murder. Using birth-pills is murder. Tolerating Islam is murdera good thing when they aren't violent. Getting vaccinated is murder. Gay marriage is murder a sin but I won't bomb anyone. Taxation is murdersomething I don't like but accept as part of life.

What isn't murder to you people?

Way to generalize, I'm not one of those conservatives. Many conservatives I know aren't like that either

So you are generalizing about people you don't know.

[Serbian Orthodox Church]

please don't throw molotov cocktails at people

In simple words, one does not simply throw molotov cocktails at people.

[The 502nd SS]

Way to generalize, I'm not one of those conservatives. Many conservatives I know aren't like that either

So you are generalizing about people you don't know.

I'm talking about the ones that y'all seem to think is the common conservative

[Galloism]

theres a difference between going to the hospital because you had a heart attack and going there to commit murder.

I find it hard to believe, at times, that any of the people who describe abortion as murder honestly believe that. I mean, who sees someone they think is about to commit murder, and decides to make up some placards and protest?

I'm thinking we need to talk about Bob the janitor.

[Ifreann]

please don't throw molotov cocktails at people

In simple words, one does not simply throw molotov cocktails at people.

Um, the entire point of the device is that it's simple to make and use. Doesn't really lend itself to the Boromir meme.

[Norstal]

So you are generalizing about people you don't know.

I'm talking about the ones that y'all seem to think is the common conservative

Do you really not understand that when you do something bad to people, they're gonna do the same thing to you too? Next time, don't generalize abortion to murder and I won't have to do the same thing to your argument.

[Thermodolia]

1. You implied I was a Muslim by saying I love Christians being beheaded by extremists.

2. In my totalitarian POV, they are not innocent.

Um, monotheistic and muslim are not always the same thing, a muslim is Islamic, a monotheistic person believes in one God.

Um, your wrong. Islam IS a monotheistic religion. They pray to only one God who they call Allah. And because they only believe in one God they are a monotheistic religion.

[AiliailiA]

I hope she serves a sizable amount of time in prison.

As reported, it does seem like a crime that deserves prison time.
There's a few unknowns though. What was in the bottle? How close was it to the protestors? If it wasn't close at all, was that due to an inept throw or was it deliberate?

Intent makes a lot of difference. There's a criminal intent in throwing a bottle of water with a smoldering rag in the top (looks like a molotov cocktail but isn't): it could be construed as a threat or it could cause indirect injury by alarming the protestors ... but it would be a hell of lot less serious than thowing something she intended to cause a fire.
Criminal intent seems to be there (by the reported covering up of her number plate).
If Toney (wrongly) thought that such a small bottle was likely to kill someone (by explosion or by a large fireball), she filled it with something she knew to be explosive or highly flammable, and she was aiming at someone but missed, that could be attempted murder.
But aggravated assualt is probably the top end of how serious the crime was. Probably two or three years non-parole.

[AiliailiA]

Um, monotheistic and muslim are not always the same thing, a muslim is Islamic, a monotheistic person believes in one God.

Um, your wrong. Islam IS a monotheistic religion. They pray to only one God who they call Allah. And because they only believe in one God they are a monotheistic religion.

What does this have to do with the subject?

[Camelza]

She only strenghtened their position with that idiotic action of hers. Pherhaps she isn't quite acquainted with Voltaire's "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

[Ifreann]

She only strenghtened their position with that idiotic action of hers. Pherhaps she isn't quite acquainted with Voltaire's "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall

[The Black Forrest]

She only strenghtened their position with that idiotic action of hers. Pherhaps she isn't quite acquainted with Voltaire's "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

Not really. Those people already are set on their ways.

The fact most pro-choice people will say jail time for her will be ignored by them.......

[Camelza]

She only strenghtened their position with that idiotic action of hers. Pherhaps she isn't quite acquainted with Voltaire's "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall

You learn something new every day.

Not really. Those people already are set on their ways.

The fact most pro-choice people will say jail time for her will be ignored by them.......

Yeah, propably, but her action didn't help either. Extremists are hurtful to any movement and should be ostracised.

[The Rich Port]

A downgrade from bombing abortion clinics and shooting doctors in the face, but nevertheless dangerous.

[AiliailiA]

Molotov cocktails can also be called a "petrol bomb" but they're not actually bombs. They're incendiary devices. If the petrol splashes in quantity onto a person, or the fireball is big enough to be accidentially inhaled, they do pose a threat to life. But petrol only explodes if its vaporized before ignition, and molotov cocktails don't do that. They make a puddle of petrol and immediately set it alight ... if the glass bottle breaks and they "work".

I assumed before that the Gum Off bottle had that particular petrol additive in it. But it could just have been a bottle Toney chose because it was small. It's a 6 oz (177 ml) bottle, which even if it was full of petrol and broke open, would make a burning pool no larger than half a square metre with flames initially to about waist height.

From KXVAN source we have a picture of the bottle. The caption is "Central Texas Coalition for Life says this Molotov cocktail was thrown at one of its volunteers." It's very likely the picture was taken by one of the protestors ... I just installed an exif viewer for Firefox but I have to restart the browser to make it work (long story) ... maybe someone else can check that.

Again the picture of a full bottle of Gum Off. The volume in millilitres is just legible at the bottom.

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The "rag" is tissue paper. It's hard to tell at that resolution if there is any liquid (petrol or otherwise) though Gum Out additive is excluded due to its color. The tissue paper has a 'blobbiness' above the mouth of the bottle but below the burnt end which may indicate it is sodden with some clear liquid.

But most interestingly, that's a plastic bottle isn't it?

[The Rich Port]

Molotov cocktails can also be called a "petrol bomb" but they're not actually bombs. They're incendiary devices. If the petrol splashes in quantity onto a person, or the fireball is big enough to be accidentially inhaled, they do pose a threat to life. But petrol only explodes if its vaporized before ignition, and molotov cocktails don't do that. They make a puddle of petrol and immediately set it alight ... if the glass bottle breaks and they "work".

I assumed before that the Gum Off bottle had that particular petrol additive in it. But it could just have been a bottle Toney chose because it was small. It's a 6 oz (177 ml) bottle, which even if it was full of petrol and broke open, would make a burning pool no larger than half a square metre with flames initially to about waist height.

From KXVAN source we have a picture of the bottle. The caption is "Central Texas Coalition for Life says this Molotov cocktail was thrown at one of its volunteers." It's very likely the picture was taken by one of the protestors ... I just installed an exif viewer for Firefox but I have to restart the browser to make it work (long story) ... maybe someone else can check that.

Again the picture of a full bottle of Gum Off. The volume in millilitres is just legible at the bottom.

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The "rag" is tissue paper. It's hard to tell at that resolution if there is any liquid (petrol or otherwise) though Gum Out additive is excluded due to its color. The tissue paper has a 'blobbiness' above the mouth of the bottle but below the burnt end which may indicate it is sodden with some clear liquid.

But most interestingly, that's a plastic bottle isn't it?

Really, I think a greater crime committed here was the abuse of the term "molotov cocktail".

Worst molotov cocktail ever.

[Nemo2020]

Point out to me where the pro-lifers display fanaticism in that article.

Screaming like a moron in front of a hospital is not fanaticism?

theres a difference between going to the hospital because you had a heart attack and going there to commit murder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder
Literate yourself.

Abortion is murder. Wearing condom is murder. Using birth-pills is murder. Tolerating Islam is murder. Getting vaccinated is murder. Gay marriage is murder. Taxation is murder.

What isn't murder to you people?

I like your sense of humor, technically speaking even killing a mosquito is murder.

[Korouse]

No matter what group it is, the woman should be jailed for attempted murder or something of that nature. They're (kind of) peaceful protesters, that kind of response wasn't needed.

[The New Sea Territory]

And there hasn't been that much pro life violence at that

Reality disagrees

[Burleson 2]

It's ironic that people who identify as pro-choice don't respect the right to choose to be pro-life.

[The New Sea Territory]

theres a difference between going to the hospital because you had a heart attack and going there to commit murder.

Abortion is murder. Wearing condom is murder. Using birth-pills is murder. Tolerating Islam is murder. Getting vaccinated is murder. Gay marriage is murder. Taxation is murder.

What isn't murder to you people?

War. War isn't murder. *nods*