Do Disney Movies Really Empower Young Girls?

[The Rich Port]

The song "Let It Go" indicates her views.

I was not aware that self-love was a left-wing political view.

Or individuality over collective interests, for that matter.

[United Russian Soviet States]

The song "Let It Go" indicates her views.

I was not aware that self-love was a left-wing political view.

It is not inherently leftist.

[Liriena]

I was not aware that self-love was a left-wing political view.

It is not inherently leftist.

Thanks for refuting yourself, then.

Self-love is the core theme of "Let it go", and blatantly so. If you are going to claim there's signs of left-wing views in its lyrics, you will need to be specific.

[United Russian Soviet States]

It is not inherently leftist.

Thanks for refuting yourself, then.

Self-love is the core theme of "Let it go", and blatantly so. If you are going to claim there's signs of left-wing views in its lyrics, you will need to be specific.

The, "No right, no wrong, no rules for me.", line. That sounds quite leftist. I wouldn't want little girls singing that.

[Camicon]

Thanks for refuting yourself, then.

Self-love is the core theme of "Let it go", and blatantly so. If you are going to claim there's signs of left-wing views in its lyrics, you will need to be specific.

The, "No right, no wrong, no rules for me.", line. That sounds quite leftist. I wouldn't want little girls singing that.

"No right, no wrong, no rules" is decidedly anarchist. Anarchism is not "left-wing".

[Sun Wukong]

Thanks for refuting yourself, then.

Self-love is the core theme of "Let it go", and blatantly so. If you are going to claim there's signs of left-wing views in its lyrics, you will need to be specific.

The, "No right, no wrong, no rules for me.", line. That sounds quite leftist. I wouldn't want little girls singing that.

Everyone knows that Uncle Joe was all about letting people decide for themselves, and hatted imposing rules.

[The Rich Port]

Thanks for refuting yourself, then.

Self-love is the core theme of "Let it go", and blatantly so. If you are going to claim there's signs of left-wing views in its lyrics, you will need to be specific.

The, "No right, no wrong, no rules for me.", line. That sounds quite leftist. I wouldn't want little girls singing that.

Yes, we wouldn't want little girls to grow into Jordan Belfort, who is most definitely not a leftist.

... Then again, I wonder what that would look like...

[Liriena]

Thanks for refuting yourself, then.

Self-love is the core theme of "Let it go", and blatantly so. If you are going to claim there's signs of left-wing views in its lyrics, you will need to be specific.

The, "No right, no wrong, no rules for me.", line. That sounds quite leftist.

Neither amorality nor moral relativism are inherently leftist ideas. Also, given the context of the song, I would argue that particular verse is a reaction to excessive, and arguably psychologically harmful insecurity and self-restraint, in which case it is less a manifesto calling a life without morality, or a statement against moral absolutism, than a liberation from noxious norms and the beginning of a personal journey of self-discovery that may well lead to moral norms that both Elsa and her enviroment can be comfortable with.

I wouldn't want little girls singing that.

So, because you personally are right-wing, you don't want little girls to come into contact with any sort of art of entertainment that is not right wing? You would purposefully make little girls ignorant of part of the real world for no reason other than your personal disagreement with that part, depriving them of the tools to develop fully?

[Naushantiya]

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I would just like to clarify that my stance was not particularly against what disney aims to do but what are the implications of foreign companies owning an entire segment of Indian television. As I said before, it is not about the aims of disney but the implications this has towards the minds of the children of this country. Pror to 91, television programming was mainly used for the benefits of society, these western media channels are destroying the social nature of Indian television. As cable television plays a major part in connecting rural areas with the urban areas. I think Disney's control over the entire segment of Kid's television is detrimental to India.It breeds a disconnected view in the rural areas and promotes the virtues of consumerism in the Urban areas. The whole get a Disney toy free with a burger and the aggressive merchandising of products is making our children into brainless consumers, Television is supposed to invoke debate and change like it always has done in the past and big budget western channels are destroying Indian television and also the small Indian animation Industry.

I hope my argument is clear, I don't care about disney, it's aims and motives but I only care about the children of India.

[United Russian Soviet States]

The, "No right, no wrong, no rules for me.", line. That sounds quite leftist.

Neither amorality nor moral relativism are inherently leftist ideas. Also, given the context of the song, I would argue that particular verse is a reaction to excessive, and arguably psychologically harmful insecurity and self-restraint, in which case it is less a manifesto calling a life without morality, or a statement against moral absolutism, than a liberation from noxious norms and the beginning of a personal journey of self-discovery that may well lead to moral norms that both Elsa and her enviroment can be comfortable with.

I wouldn't want little girls singing that.

So, because you personally are right-wing, you don't want little girls to come into contact with any sort of art of entertainment that is not right wing? You would purposefully make little girls ignorant of part of the real world for no reason other than your personal disagreement with that part, depriving them of the tools to develop fully?

I would prefer for them to be aware of the leftist bias.

[Sun Wukong]

Neither amorality nor moral relativism are inherently leftist ideas. Also, given the context of the song, I would argue that particular verse is a reaction to excessive, and arguably psychologically harmful insecurity and self-restraint, in which case it is less a manifesto calling a life without morality, or a statement against moral absolutism, than a liberation from noxious norms and the beginning of a personal journey of self-discovery that may well lead to moral norms that both Elsa and her enviroment can be comfortable with.


So, because you personally are right-wing, you don't want little girls to come into contact with any sort of art of entertainment that is not right wing? You would purposefully make little girls ignorant of part of the real world for no reason other than your personal disagreement with that part, depriving them of the tools to develop fully?

I would prefer for them to be aware of the leftist bias.

Yeah, but you probably think potatoes have a leftist bias.

[United Russian Soviet States]

I would prefer for them to be aware of the leftist bias.

Yeah, but you probably think potatoes have a leftist bias.

I don't.

[Charellia]

Neither amorality nor moral relativism are inherently leftist ideas. Also, given the context of the song, I would argue that particular verse is a reaction to excessive, and arguably psychologically harmful insecurity and self-restraint, in which case it is less a manifesto calling a life without morality, or a statement against moral absolutism, than a liberation from noxious norms and the beginning of a personal journey of self-discovery that may well lead to moral norms that both Elsa and her enviroment can be comfortable with.


So, because you personally are right-wing, you don't want little girls to come into contact with any sort of art of entertainment that is not right wing? You would purposefully make little girls ignorant of part of the real world for no reason other than your personal disagreement with that part, depriving them of the tools to develop fully?

I would prefer for them to be aware of the leftist bias.

Who decides what has a leftist bias? Most of your evidence of left-wing bias has been viewed as neither leftist, nor biased by pretty much every respondent on this thread. So who is responsible for telling these girls what does and doesn't have a leftist bias? For that matter, who is going to explain to these girls what a leftist bias is and why its wrong?

[United Russian Soviet States]

I would prefer for them to be aware of the leftist bias.

Who decides what has a leftist bias? Most of your evidence of left-wing bias has been viewed as neither leftist, nor biased by pretty much every respondent on this thread. So who is responsible for telling these girls what does and doesn't have a leftist bias? For that matter, who is going to explain to these girls what a leftist bias is and why its wrong?

Right-wing pundits are good at that.

[Charellia]

Who decides what has a leftist bias? Most of your evidence of left-wing bias has been viewed as neither leftist, nor biased by pretty much every respondent on this thread. So who is responsible for telling these girls what does and doesn't have a leftist bias? For that matter, who is going to explain to these girls what a leftist bias is and why its wrong?

Right-wing pundits are good at that.

What child young enough to still be influenced by Disney movies is going to be listening to pundits, right-wing or otherwise?

[Threlizdun]

Right-wing pundits are good at that.

What child young enough to still be influenced by Disney movies is going to be listening to pundits, right-wing or otherwise?

I saw a kid that looked like he was about eleven or so wearing a dress shirt, dress pants, and a tie at an orthodontist once who asked for them to put on Fox News. I almost started crying.

[Dracoria]

The, "No right, no wrong, no rules for me.", line. That sounds quite leftist. I wouldn't want little girls singing that.

Everyone knows that Uncle Joe was all about letting people decide for themselves, and hatted imposing rules.

Now now, few modern leftists claim ol' Joe was one of them. Many'll still support his stance on a number of things and claim the USSR single-handedly won the war, but shy away from claiming him as their own.

I would prefer for them to be aware of the leftist bias.

Yeah, but you probably think potatoes have a leftist bias.

Depending on the spelling, they might. Just ask Dan Quayle.

[Stormwrath]

I do agree that most Disney movies don't give off a sense of empowerment to women, but in my opinion it wasn't planning to until recently. If it follows the original story then I don't have a problem with the likes of Snow White or Cinderella or Sleeping Beauty. Also, I don't think Beauty and the Beast is as empowering to women as some people think. Sure, Belle is an intelligent woman, but to promote the idea of empowering women isn't really the point of the story. I'd understand that Disney movies empower women if you are talking about Mary Poppins, Brave or Frozen.

[Liriena]

What child young enough to still be influenced by Disney movies is going to be listening to pundits, right-wing or otherwise?

I saw a kid that looked like he was about eleven or so wearing a dress shirt, dress pants, and a tie at an orthodontist once who asked for them to put on Fox News. I almost started crying.

That's the saddest thing I've read all day.

[Liriena]

Neither amorality nor moral relativism are inherently leftist ideas. Also, given the context of the song, I would argue that particular verse is a reaction to excessive, and arguably psychologically harmful insecurity and self-restraint, in which case it is less a manifesto calling a life without morality, or a statement against moral absolutism, than a liberation from noxious norms and the beginning of a personal journey of self-discovery that may well lead to moral norms that both Elsa and her enviroment can be comfortable with.


So, because you personally are right-wing, you don't want little girls to come into contact with any sort of art of entertainment that is not right wing? You would purposefully make little girls ignorant of part of the real world for no reason other than your personal disagreement with that part, depriving them of the tools to develop fully?

I would prefer for them to be aware of the leftist bias.

A "leftist bias" whose existence you have failed to actually demonstrate.

And, really, how could a movie made by one of the largest companies in the entertainment industry be "leftist"?

[United Russian Soviet States]

Right-wing pundits are good at that.

What child young enough to still be influenced by Disney movies is going to be listening to pundits, right-wing or otherwise?

Some children are quite interested in politics.

I would prefer for them to be aware of the leftist bias.

A "leftist bias" whose existence you have failed to actually demonstrate.

And, really, how could a movie made by one of the largest companies in the entertainment industry be "leftist"?

Disney is a liberal company.

[Liriena]

What child young enough to still be influenced by Disney movies is going to be listening to pundits, right-wing or otherwise?

Some children are quite interested in politics.

A "leftist bias" whose existence you have failed to actually demonstrate.

And, really, how could a movie made by one of the largest companies in the entertainment industry be "leftist"?

Disney is a liberal company.

Liberalism is not necessarily a left-wing ideology.

The fact of the matter is that, while the directors, writers, actors and artists in Disney films have a certain degree of artistic liberty, enabling them to imbue their work with their own ideas, political or otherwise, Disney ultimately being a corporation means that the most important thing to them will always be profits, and most left-wing ideologies are hostile towards profit-based cultural production. Ultimately, what you see in a Disney film is there because it was deemed profitable by the company, not because they wanted to express left-wing ideas to children.

[Charellia]

What child young enough to still be influenced by Disney movies is going to be listening to pundits, right-wing or otherwise?

Some children are quite interested in politics.

I know, I was one of them. But those kids are not even close to being a majority. Plus politically aware children are not likely to have their views informed by a Disney song. They will have their views informed by their parents preferred news outlet. [

[The Rich Port]

Some children are quite interested in politics.

I know, I was one of them. But those kids are not even close to being a majority. Plus politically aware children are not likely to have their views informed by a Disney song. They will have their views informed by their parents preferred news outlet. [

In my experience it's actually their parents' non-preferred news outlet, but whatever.

[Charellia]

I know, I was one of them. But those kids are not even close to being a majority. Plus politically aware children are not likely to have their views informed by a Disney song. They will have their views informed by their parents preferred news outlet. [

In my experience it's actually their parents' non-preferred news outlet, but whatever.

That comes when they get a little older.