Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:42 amUhm...that quote. I didn't say any of that.
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:42 amPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:57 amSorry, was Nova Scrins thought, but well, that's posted to make it of public knowledge and with the purpose of showing the truth about El Salvador-Honduras war.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:43 pmVilatania wrote:Uhm...that quote. I didn't say any of that.
Why'd you put that flag if you're an atheist? Not that you cannot; just a question.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:19 pmPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:23 pm
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:25 pmPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:28 pmVilatania wrote:Salandriagado wrote:
This is not true. I've already given an example of something that is definitely logical with zero probability (picking a random number from [0,1] which does not contain the digit "3" in its decimal expansion). Zero probability =/= impossible.
This is correct, there is such a thing as 0% probability. And 0% probability does not mean impossible. 0% probably means that it currently is not possible, however that probability is subject to increase if the circumstances change. If we say that 1+1=2 that statement is true. There is 0% probability chance that that statement is incorrect. However we replace the number 2 with 3, then the statement becomes false and there is a 100% probability chance that it is incorrect. In this situation the answer would change from 1+1=2 to 1+1=3. Obviously this would never happen, but it's an example of how nothing can ever be truly impossible.
I think a lot of people including myself incorrectly use the word impossible to describe 0% probability because it's easier to say. However in the case of the possibility for a god other than one that we've fabricated like the Christian God for example, we cannot accurately state that there is a 0% probability for it. The probability IS very low, but it is not zero. Probability for the Christian God is 0%.
Looking deeper into the subject of the Christian God. It's probability is obviously zero. Initially you might think it is entirely impossible because it stakes a claim on past events that simply didn't occur in the way the religion claims and is thus false. However, we cannot say that these events could not be changed. As a result, it is not entirely impossible but a major change would have to occur for it to become probable.
Another example for probability vs impossibility: Take a blank piece of note book paper. Since it's blank there is a 0% probability that something is written on it, and you have observed this to be true. Now write something on it. That probability of 0% is now 100% because the circumstances have now been altered by you writing on it.
This is gibberish. It is entirely possible to have a situation in which the probability of something happening is zero percent, and yet it happens: for example, if you select a random number (in say, [0,1]) according to a uniform distribution, then the probability of selecting any particular number is zero percent. However, some number must be selected, and so one of those events must happen. See here for more details.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:29 pmPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:29 pmPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:31 pmPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:31 pmHey GUYS GUESS WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm christian now!! HURRAH HURRAH FOR CHRIST!!
give me your support as I make this wonderful spiritual journey as a christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm christian now!! HURRAH HURRAH FOR CHRIST!!
give me your support as I make this wonderful spiritual journey as a christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:40 pmI just read your link. It's Wikipedia. Not very accurate. But I read it. And it doesn't support your position. Your wrong. 0% probability means it can't happen as is. http://www.themathleague.com/index.php/ ... ence?id=81 scroll to the bottom for an explanation of how probability works.Salandriagado wrote:Vilatania wrote:
This is correct, there is such a thing as 0% probability. And 0% probability does not mean impossible. 0% probably means that it currently is not possible, however that probability is subject to increase if the circumstances change. If we say that 1+1=2 that statement is true. There is 0% probability chance that that statement is incorrect. However we replace the number 2 with 3, then the statement becomes false and there is a 100% probability chance that it is incorrect. In this situation the answer would change from 1+1=2 to 1+1=3. Obviously this would never happen, but it's an example of how nothing can ever be truly impossible.
I think a lot of people including myself incorrectly use the word impossible to describe 0% probability because it's easier to say. However in the case of the possibility for a god other than one that we've fabricated like the Christian God for example, we cannot accurately state that there is a 0% probability for it. The probability IS very low, but it is not zero. Probability for the Christian God is 0%.
Looking deeper into the subject of the Christian God. It's probability is obviously zero. Initially you might think it is entirely impossible because it stakes a claim on past events that simply didn't occur in the way the religion claims and is thus false. However, we cannot say that these events could not be changed. As a result, it is not entirely impossible but a major change would have to occur for it to become probable.
Another example for probability vs impossibility: Take a blank piece of note book paper. Since it's blank there is a 0% probability that something is written on it, and you have observed this to be true. Now write something on it. That probability of 0% is now 100% because the circumstances have now been altered by you writing on it.
This is gibberish. It is entirely possible to have a situation in which the probability of something happening is zero percent, and yet it happens: for example, if you select a random number (in say, [0,1]) according to a uniform distribution, then the probability of selecting any particular number is zero percent. However, some number must be selected, and so one of those events must happen. See here for more details.
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:42 pmThe Creepoc Infinite wrote:Hey GUYS GUESS WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm christian now!! HURRAH HURRAH FOR CHRIST!!
give me your support as I make this wonderful spiritual journey as a christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April fools day pranks should have at least some chance of actually fooling someone.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:43 pmRussels Orbiting Teapot wrote:The Creepoc Infinite wrote:Hey GUYS GUESS WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm christian now!! HURRAH HURRAH FOR CHRIST!!
give me your support as I make this wonderful spiritual journey as a christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April fools day pranks should have at least some chance of actually fooling someone.
no really
i have Jesus's love all over my face
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:45 pmVilatania wrote:I just read your link. It's Wikipedia. Not very accurate. But I read it. And it doesn't support your position. Your wrong. 0% probability means it can't happen as is. http://www.themathleague.com/index.php/ ... ence?id=81 scroll to the bottom for an explanation of how probability works.Salandriagado wrote:
This is gibberish. It is entirely possible to have a situation in which the probability of something happening is zero percent, and yet it happens: for example, if you select a random number (in say, [0,1]) according to a uniform distribution, then the probability of selecting any particular number is zero percent. However, some number must be selected, and so one of those events must happen. See here for more details.
seriously?
wikipedia is reliable
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:47 pmErr April Fools right? I could log into wiki right now and rewrite his entire source however I see fit.The Creepoc Infinite wrote:Vilatania wrote:I just read your link. It's Wikipedia. Not very accurate. But I read it. And it doesn't support your position. Your wrong. 0% probability means it can't happen as is. http://www.themathleague.com/index.php/ ... ence?id=81 scroll to the bottom for an explanation of how probability works.
seriously?
wikipedia is reliable
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:47 pmPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:47 pmWhelp, this place has gone literally gayer than usual. About time I high-tail it out of here forever.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:48 pmThe Empire of Pretantia wrote:Whelp, this place has gone literally gayer than usual. About time I high-tail it out of here forever.
Jesus loves you!
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:51 pmVilatania wrote:Err April Fools right? I could log into wiki right now and rewrite his entire source however I see fit.
And it would be obvious you had done so and most likely last for a matter of minutes before being reverted.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:52 pm1. Wikipedia has moderators.
2. Wikipedia provides information conveniently. If you don't trust it - feel free to check the citations.
3. http://www.livescience.com/32950-how-ac ... pedia.html
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:57 pmI just find a lot of inaccurate information on it. It can be edited to have BS information on it as well, I've tested that theory and the moderators didn't fix it and neither did anyone else.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:01 pmVilatania wrote:I just find a lot of inaccurate information on it. It can be edited to have BS information on it as well, I've tested that theory and the moderators didn't fix it and neither did anyone else.
If you find inaccuracies, you should correct them, or at least point them out in the talk pages.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:03 pmRussels Orbiting Teapot wrote:Vilatania wrote:I just find a lot of inaccurate information on it. It can be edited to have BS information on it as well, I've tested that theory and the moderators didn't fix it and neither did anyone else.
If you find inaccuracies, you should correct them, or at least point them out in the talk pages.
Your asking me to actually waste effort points. Those are better used by sitting here and worshipping JESUS!!!!