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US mom faces prison for blocking son’s circumcision

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:22 pm
by DaAngou14
http://rt.com/usa/238661-circumcision-f ... er-prison/
http://www.local10.com/news/south-flori ... y/31657812
A mother who has taken flight with her son to prevent his circumcision could face a prison sentence if she fails have the boy undergo the procedure, a judge ruled. The case, which began as a domestic dispute between Heather Hironimus and her husband, Dennis Nebus, over whether or not to circumcise their four-year-old son. The judge, meanwhile, is determined to ensure that the child undergoes the medical process to have his foreskin removed. Although still common practice in the United States, circumcision rates have begun to decline as some medical studies indicate the procedure may carry some risks.

Has this occurrence affected your support for assault? Remember that a cosmetic procedure, if unwilling, is still an assault. It should be interesting to hear people justify his rape to him in a few years, if such a pathologically effected union can continue for that long - in Europe there has been talk of bans, but for some in the United States any normalized thing can be forced on a person as long as it can be glossed as "perhaps not so harmful."

Remember, the prostate can also develop cancer.

Added Information - this is a medical situation for the child in question, something the OP did not include:
Phimosis (/fɪˈmoʊsɨs/ or /faɪˈmoʊsɨs/), from the Greek phimos (φῑμός ["muzzle"]), is a condition of the penis where the foreskin cannot be fully retracted over the glans penis. The term may also refer to clitoral phimosis in women, whereby the clitoral hood cannot be retracted, limiting exposure of the glans clitoridis.

At birth, the foreskin is fused to the glans and is not retractable. Huntley et al. state that "non-retractability can be considered normal for males up to and including adolescence."

Normal developmental non-retractability does not cause any problems. Phimosis is deemed pathological when it causes problems, such as difficulty urinating or performing common sexual functions. There are numerous causes of so-called pathological phimosis. Nonsurgical treatment involves the stretching of the foreskin, steroid creams and changing masturbation habits. Surgical treatments include preputioplasty and circumcision.

Physiologic phimosis, common in males 10 years of age and younger, is normal, and does not require intervention. Non-retractile foreskin usually becomes retractable during the course of puberty.


If phimosis in older children or adults is not causing acute and severe problems, nonsurgical measures may be effective. Choice of treatment is often determined by whether circumcision is viewed as an option of last resort to be avoided or as the preferred course.

The most acute complication is paraphimosis. In this condition, the glans is swollen and painful, and the foreskin is immobilized by the swelling in a partially retracted position. The proximal penis is flaccid. Some studies found phimosis to be a risk factor for urinary retention and carcinoma of the penis.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:23 pm
by Romalae
The poll's question is a loaded question.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:24 pm
by New DeCapito
Why is America screwed up like this?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:25 pm
by Arlenton
Don't force it and don't ban it.

And this situation is pretty messed up....

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:26 pm
by Zakuvia
Romalae wrote:The poll's question is a loaded question.


Very. I'd recommend you change it.

I can't read the article on this machine, so I need to ask: is there a valid medical reason why the judge declared the boy needed to be circumcised? Also, does the father have full/joint custody?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:27 pm
by DaAngou14
Romalae wrote:The poll's question is a loaded question.

No, rather, your mind is loaded. Remember that a cosmetic procedure, if unwilling, is still an assault.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:28 pm
by Shilya
Here's an important bit that you've left out.

A pediatrician had diagnosed the son as having phimosis, a condition that prevents retraction of the foreskin.


As such, there's a medical condition present. Given that, I support the decision of the court. Otherwise, I wouldn't.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:28 pm
by Ifreann
Romalae wrote:The poll's question is a loaded question.

I suspect the OP is employing a puppet in order to express a controversial opinion without suffering any reputational consequences.


What do you mean "reputational" isn't a word? Fuck you, Firefox dictionary.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:28 pm
by DaAngou14
Zakuvia wrote:I can't read the article on this machine, so I need to ask: is there a valid medical reason why the judge declared the boy needed to be circumcised?

He has phimosis, but I'm told phimosis often corrects itself.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:28 pm
by Romalae
DaAngou14 wrote:
Romalae wrote:The poll's question is a loaded question.

No, rather, your mind is loaded. Remember that a cosmetic procedure, if unwilling, is still an assault.

I never even stated my opinion. But regardless of it, it's still a loaded question.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:28 pm
by Benuty
New DeCapito wrote:Why is America screwed up like this?

Because we are the only country where genital scarring, cutting, or mutilation occurs. Or are you just going to ignore all the nations where FGM, MGM, and Subincision occur?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:28 pm
by Devvo Mate
Circumcision is mutilation, and to this day I have no clue why it is so widely practiced in the US but nowhere else in the developed world.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:29 pm
by New DeCapito
DaAngou14 wrote:
Romalae wrote:The poll's question is a loaded question.

No, rather, your mind is loaded. Remember that a cosmetic procedure, if unwilling, is still an assault.

No, really. Circumcision is just something we have opinions on. Assault is agreed by most people to be bad. It rather biases people to the negative side.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:29 pm
by DaAngou14
Ifreann wrote:I suspect the OP is employing a puppet in order to express a controversial opinion without suffering any reputational consequences.

I don't make any long-lasting accounts here, I do other things.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:30 pm
by Ifreann
DaAngou14 wrote:
Zakuvia wrote:I can't read the article on this machine, so I need to ask: is there a valid medical reason why the judge declared the boy needed to be circumcised?

He has phimosis, but I'm told phimosis often corrects itself.

Told by whom?


Devvo Mate wrote:Circumcision is mutilation, and to this day I have no clue why it is so widely practiced in the US but nowhere else in the developed world.

I've heard in other threads on the subject that the practice began as a campaign to prevent boys from masturbating. I've also heard that it didn't work.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:30 pm
by Benuty
Devvo Mate wrote:Circumcision is mutilation, and to this day I have no clue why it is so widely practiced in the US but nowhere else in the developed world.

That's debatable.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:30 pm
by Scomagia
Circumcision, particularly in this case, is not a purely cosmetic procedure.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:30 pm
by New DeCapito
Benuty wrote:
New DeCapito wrote:Why is America screwed up like this?

Because we are the only country where genital scarring, cutting, or mutilation occurs. Or are you just going to ignore all the nations where FGM, MGM, and Subincision occur?

I recognise that other countries allow things like this. What I don't like is that the judge is forcing this to happen.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:31 pm
by Ifreann
Benuty wrote:
Devvo Mate wrote:Circumcision is mutilation, and to this day I have no clue why it is so widely practiced in the US but nowhere else in the developed world.

That's debatable.

I imagine it happens quite a bit in Israel, though perhaps not for the same reasons.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:31 pm
by Benuty
Ifreann wrote:
DaAngou14 wrote:He has phimosis, but I'm told phimosis often corrects itself.

Told by whom?


Devvo Mate wrote:Circumcision is mutilation, and to this day I have no clue why it is so widely practiced in the US but nowhere else in the developed world.

I've heard in other threads on the subject that the practice began as a campaign to prevent boys from masturbating. I've also heard that it didn't work.

I suspect that's why they moved on to mechanisms eerily similar to female chastity devices, and of-course Graham Crackers.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:32 pm
by Devvo Mate
Benuty wrote:That's debatable.


Where else? Israel it's probably very common, so that's two, maybe Canada? Really not the done thing in Europe though.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:32 pm
by Hanchu
Devvo Mate wrote:Circumcision is mutilation, and to this day I have no clue why it is so widely practiced in the US but nowhere else in the developed world.

It's mutilation Unless the person chooses to have it done , or it's absolutely neccesary , then it's surgery

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:33 pm
by DaAngou14
Scomagia wrote:Circumcision, particularly in this case, is not a purely cosmetic procedure.

Doesn't matter.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:33 pm
by Hurdegaryp
DaAngou14 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I suspect the OP is employing a puppet in order to express a controversial opinion without suffering any reputational consequences.

I don't make any long-lasting accounts here, I do other things.

Cool story, bro. Also that 14 in your name seems to be suspect.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:34 pm
by Romalae
Hurdegaryp wrote:
DaAngou14 wrote:I don't make any long-lasting accounts here, I do other things.

Cool story, bro. Also that 14 in your name seems to be suspect.

I would lean more on the side of it meaning his age.