AMERICA: A Christian Nation?

[The Sapiens]

Uh huh, good luck with that kiddo. I guess you don't like the Constitution that much do you?

As I mentioned in another thread, The Constitution was the work of God. If God says that we shall deport "American Citizens", then we do what God says. If you read on some conservative websites, God has recently helped America solve it's immigration issues by creating a crack on the US-Mexican border in New Mexico. See that is my proof that God exists. He's there, but most of you refuse to believe in him.

When did God say that we should deport US citizens?

[The Sapiens]

Yea....Hold on.

God just told me that he has no memory of the whole constitution thing. Only thing he wrote was 50 shades of grey and some bullshit in the 60s.

He then just sat there....

How dare you insult God and mention that pornographic novel in the same post! Haven't you been raised to respect religious beliefs?

Says the person who wants to deport every non-Christian. That, my friend, is hypocrisy.

[The Sapiens]

Founded by Puritans. Still so, so Puritan. Even our atheists are Puritans.

It's a de facto Christian country and it has been for 300 years. Our state religion of Progessivism is a nontheistic Christianity.

Atheist Puritans? I don't follow...

[The Sapiens]

That doesn't answer my question, if the Constitution is the work of God why does he allow non Christians in the US to practice their religion or lack thereof?

I don't know! God doesn't solve everything for us! Sometimes we have to do things for ourselves. But once in a while, divine intervention comes in.

Did God write the Constitution or not!?

[Lost heros]

Founded by Puritans. Still so, so Puritan. Even our atheists are Puritans.

It's a de facto Christian country and it has been for 300 years. Our state religion of Progessivism is a nontheistic Christianity.

Atheist Puritans? I don't follow...

He's fallen to the grade school lesson that because we have rated R movies we are all puritans.

[Benuty]

Atheist Puritans? I don't follow...

He's fallen to the grade school lesson that because we have rated R movies we are all puritans.

In fairness the entire reason we have the ESRB is because Joe Lieberman threw a puritanical shitfit over Night Trap ( a game where cops try to protect girls at a party from half-vampires by using the houses defenses, and cameras.) claiming it encouraged rape.

[The Sapiens]

Answer me this - Which flavour are we taking here? Real Christianity, or 500-year-old heresies and their offspring?

Real Christianity. If you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, then you are a Christian. That's the Christianity I'm talking about.

Real Christianity demands that you stone children to death who disrespect their parents. Do you really want to follow the exact Bible?

[Benuty]

Real Christianity. If you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, then you are a Christian. That's the Christianity I'm talking about.

Real Christianity demands that you stone children to death who disrespect their parents. Do you really want to follow the exact Bible?

Oh look someone who doesn't know that many Christian sects hold to the idea of Holy Tradition.

[The Sapiens]

Again if the Constitution is a document from God and supposedly God does not like other religions, why does it include the first amendment?

Freedom of Religion is Freedom to be a Christian. God just wasn't specific enough unfortunately.

He was specific! The Constitution says that you can worship any religion you want!

[The Sapiens]

"Tide goes in, tide goes out. You cant explain that!"

*Le gasp*

Thank you my gay Nazi Ukrainian Jew brother! I have seen the light!

Lol Nazi Jew?

[The Sapiens]

So you respect human sacrifice? It's a religious belief.

Christianity is the only religion that deserves respect because it's the only true religion in the world.

Do you have any evidence?

[The Sapiens]

Prove it I think Norse is more real because Odin or Thor promised no more ice giants and I see any ice giants.

ODIN BE PRAISED!

ALL HAIL THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!

[Lost heros]

Real Christianity demands that you stone children to death who disrespect their parents. Do you really want to follow the exact Bible?

Oh look someone who doesn't know that many Christian sects hold to the idea of Holy Tradition.

But, but Benuty if we don't make rampant generalizations about Christians how are we supposed to pigeon-hole them as being really dumb?

[The Sapiens]

Got any evidence for that rather large claim?

The Bible is evidence. It doesn't take an archaeologist to find one.

Prove that the bible is correct.

[The Sapiens]

Christianity is the only religion that deserves respect because it's the only true religion in the world.

That is one of the most retarded and arrogant things I have ever heard, as well as impossible to prove. It's equally as likely that a giant spaghetti monster created the universe (Pastafarianism reference lol) or that a gigantic blob of slime morphed into the universe.

Equally as likely that a giant spaghetti monster created the universe? EQUALLY!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? IT IS WAY MORE LIKELY THAT IT WAS THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER, FOR HE IS THE TRUE LORD! ALL HAIL!

[The Sapiens]

Christianity is the only religion that deserves respect because it's the only true religion in the world.

That is one of the most retarded and arrogant things I have ever heard, as well as impossible to prove. It's equally as likely that a giant spaghetti monster created the universe (Pastafarianism reference lol) or that a gigantic blob of slime morphed into the universe.

Equally as likely that a giant spaghetti monster created the universe? EQUALLY!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? IT IS WAY MORE LIKELY THAT IT WAS THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER, FOR HE IS THE TRUE LORD! ALL HAIL!

[The Sapiens]

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

Prove the bible is true.

The Bible is true because it is what it is. And I don't know what amendment you're pulling up but it must be the cultural-marxist refined edition of the Constitution you're using as reference.

You must be REALLY uneducated to not know the Constitution. Also, the Bible is true because it is what it is!? How is that evidence!

[Madiganistan]

I was just pointing out the comedic value in that you're trying to illustrate mass diversity in a nation with one major difference. Nothing more nothing less.

You're wrong. Here's why:

b) suggesting that Sunnis and Shias are not theologically and culturally cohesive units and come into intra-denominational conflict, both philosophical and physical

(adjusted for clarity's sake)

Wahhabis and Shafi'is have literally nothing in common aside from a mutual appreciation among some adherents for killing the shit out of each other, but they're both ostensibly Sunni.

In what way has the descriptor "Christian" become more appropriate as it becomes less defined?

Because the conflicts between European-American cultural groups, which until very, very recently was the dominant player in steering the course of the broader American narrative, can be correlated to the various Christian denominations to which these cultural groups belonged.

Denominational conflict between Methodists and Catholics for instance, has diluted in the same way conflict between their British-American and Italian-American adherents has diluted. Mormons and Evangelicals now live side-by-side in SLC, the latter attending the former's choir concerts on the same ground where they once might have slaughtered one another en masse. Our greatest philosophers, critics, and humorists have often registered their opinions on religion, some praising the strength of spirituality while others offered those more vague and moderated objections to some of the weaknesses of organized religion, which eventually evolved into George Carlin's bold "stupid Christian hat shit" bit.

Is America a theology? Of course not. Is America's cultural narrative inherently intertwined with the cultural narrative Christian faiths? Of course.

[The Sapiens]

The Bible is NOT evidence, and does not have legal weight beyond increasingly scattered symbolism. I assume you're being satirical or deliberately extreme, seeing as you're on a throwaway account, but regardless, you're not correct, and no matter how much you whine against being wrong, it's not going to change what you are.

Not a throwaway account. I've been on NSG back in 2010 as a Confederate-styled nation. My problem is why people cannot accept that God, Jesus Christ and the Bible are important parts of American society. Just like how the Quran, Allah and Muhammed are important for Islamic nations.

We don't accept that God is important because he doesn't exist, and you haven't given me any proof that he does!

[The Sapiens]

Dispite being the same god.

Yes, but it has become perverted and anti-Christian. Radical islamic terrorists are killing CHRISTIANS!

AND RADICAL CHRISTIANS ARE KILLING MUSLIMS!

[Madiganistan]

I really can't escape the feeling that Christian State of MS and The Sapiens are the same person trying to reconcile his disassociative identity disorder.

[The Sapiens]

Jesus and the Bible may be important parts to some people in the US, they are not important to others and have no role to play in the government.

Do you realize how strict a country like Saudi Arabia is? You can't go to Mecca unless you're a Muslim. Why can't a Christian America be like that?

Just because others are doing it doesn't mean you should. That's like saying "oh look! They're murdering, why don't I do that too!"

[Lost heros]

I was just pointing out the comedic value in that you're trying to illustrate mass diversity in a nation with one major difference. Nothing more nothing less.

You're wrong. Here's why:

b) suggesting that Sunnis and Shias are not theologically and culturally cohesive units and come into intra-denominational conflict, both philosophical and physical

(adjusted for clarity's sake)

Wahhabis and Shafi'is have literally nothing in common aside from a mutual appreciation among some adherents for killing the shit out of each other, but they're both ostensibly Sunni.

the differences between the two groups and the cultural conflicts that arise from them [don't] make them a) any less Islamic in their regard to each other or an outsider

I present the precedent statement as evidence that you don't really understand the differences between the "two" groups.

Sure. I will happily admit I don't know as much about Intra-Islamic relations as I should in order to have a proper debate. Funny thing is, I never intended on having a debate on it, and we've gone off a pointless tangent.

In what way has the descriptor "Christian" become more appropriate as it becomes less defined?

Because the conflicts between European-American cultural groups, which until very, very recently was the dominant player in steering the course of the broader American narrative, can be correlated to the various Christian denominations to which these cultural groups belonged.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the descriptor modern kinda disregard the previous cultural identities of the same region. Now this isn't to say that the narrative isn't important, it's just not nearly as important as the modern setting.

Denominational conflict between Methodists and Catholics for instance, has diluted in the same way conflict between their British-American and Italian-American adherents has diluted. Mormons and Evangelicals now live side-by-side in SLC, the latter attending the former's choir concerts on the same ground where they once might have slaughtered one another en masse. Our greatest philosophers, critics, and humorists have often registered their opinions on religion, some praising the strength of spirituality while others offered those more vague and moderated objections to some of the weaknesses of organized religion, which eventually evolved into George Carlin's bold "stupid Christian hat shit" bit.

The melting pot mixing in different vegetables doesn't make the melting pot a vegetable, does it?
While there are minimal physical conflicts among the Christian sects, doesn't make their differences on culture less profound. A Catholic and a Protestant might be friends and say they're both Christian, but they're going to have markedly different cultures that the other might disagree with.

Is America a theology? Of course not. Is America's cultural narrative inherently intertwined with the cultural narrative Christian faiths? Of course.

That still doesn't make America a Christian nation.

[The Sapiens]

You actually want us to be like Saudi Arabia?

Yes but with Freedom. That's what God gave us.

How would we have freedom without freedom of speech and freedom of religion?

[The Sapiens]

Just for Christians though.

Damn right. A Christian nation for Christians. Just like how the majority of the Middle East is an islamic nation for Muslims.

What? No, we should all be able to live together in harmony.