Fawklands, Who Should Have Them?

[Calimera II]

"In the last decade Argentina experienced a process of wage inequality reduction."

"Poverty reduction and increase in the poorest quintile's share in national income."

Furthermore, primary, secondary and tertiary education are totally free in Argentina and so is healthcare. Argentina also has the highest pensions in Latin America and in the last decade the government launched lots of new welfare subsidies and social programs. In Argentina, poverty is not institutionalised. Moreover, historically Argentina always had (and still has) one of the lowest inequality rates in Latin America.

You haven't given me an actual inequality rate. You have given me sources that it has decreased.

I don't think you can doubt that a minority political elite control Argentina.

No "minority political elite" controls Argentina.

[Costa Fierro]

Chili is a shitty nation.

For what convoluted reasons?

But they consider themselves to be neutral.

That's because they are. Chile is only interested in what can benefit Chile. Hence why Pinochet cooperated with the British in 1982.

[Estva]

You haven't given me an actual inequality rate. You have given me sources that it has decreased.

I don't think you can doubt that a minority political elite control Argentina.

No "minority political elite" controls Argentina.

Kirchener's complete dominance of the media says otherwise.

Also, your own source gives similar rates for Chile. http://www.indexmundi.com/chile/income-inequality.html

They actually have better rates.

[Edgy Opinions]

I know, but I guess at the time of the extinction people didn't really care about animal rights. :C
What's happening to the Amazon is indeed crucial, but no one pays as much attention as is needed. Cutting down the rainforest will have worse implications in the environment than china's rampant dirty industrialism.

The worst aspect is that we aren't even a people very prone to destruction of a given species just for the hell of it in the first place.

We generally aren't the ones to hunt marine species to the point of threatening them, and most predatory illegal hunting in the more visible, densely-inhabited, accessible regions has been clamp down.

It's just the big, rich and powerful causing endless habitat loss with profit in sight, as always. Our drought is not as much about the Amazon as it is about the much more threatened Cerrado and the minor woodlands around rivers and springs, that became our breadbasket without any planning or regard.

[Marcurix]

You haven't given me an actual inequality rate. You have given me sources that it has decreased.

I don't think you can doubt that a minority political elite control Argentina.

No "minority political elite" controls Argentina.

But figures would be nice.

[The Nihilistic view]

To be honest the Falklands look extremely British nature-wise and not really what you'd expect from a South American island archipelago.

There were relatives of the maned wolf but they were killed because of the sheep. ¬_¬

We had wolves in Britain too. We just like killing Wolves so they have been extinct for a while.

[Calimera II]

No "minority political elite" controls Argentina.

Kirchener's complete dominance of the media says otherwise.

Also, your own source gives similar rates for Chile. http://www.indexmundi.com/chile/income-inequality.html

They actually have better rates.

If you are claiming that Argentina is more inequal than Chile.... than your are most definitely wrong. I'll provide some sources later when I am able to use my Pc.

[Estva]

Kirchener's complete dominance of the media says otherwise.

Also, your own source gives similar rates for Chile. http://www.indexmundi.com/chile/income-inequality.html

They actually have better rates.

If you are claiming that Argentina is more inequal than Chile.... than your are most definitely wrong. I'll provide some sources later when I am able to use my Pc.

Go ahead when you can. They both seem pretty unequal to me.

[American California]

Because it isn't pro-Argentina?

No. Because inequality is institutionalised and the government doesn't give a f*ck about other South American nations.

It's supposed to?

[American California]

The Falklands are British.

Legal and political aspects aside, the people of the Falkland Islands themselves say they are British. So why is there a debate?

[Edgy Opinions]

Go ahead when you can. They both seem pretty unequal to me.

This was quite easy, albeit I'm not going to enter in detail, since I just came to help.

It seems Argentina is significantly less unequal than Chile, that is more unequal than Brazil (!!!!!).

[Geanna]

As stated in da sig;

Sorry Argies, Falklands are British and will remain British until its citizens decide otherwise

The Argentine Government at the time, used the islands as a rally for their own nationalist sentiment, and it inevitably cost them. As well, I think the poll results here outlines quite well, where support rests anyhow. The UK understands well, that the islands yield little advantages to the nation, which is partly why it has allowed such referenda periodically - as far as the British are concerned, if the public eventually does decide to join Argentina, then fine. However, the islanders do not, they wish to remain British, and that's their right to be respected - no amount of sabre-rattling by the Argentine Government will alter that stance, and Britain will not have an issue slapping their hand if they ever try to take them again.

[Celibrae]

Right then, very good, any idea how we'd prop up the Falklands on their own? or is there an alternative to Falklander independence?

The only sane solution I think to this as that Britain renounces it's claim to Antarctica and demilitarizes that area than I would even consider supporting Britain's claim or being silent about it

Sane solution huh?

What's wrong with Britain having a bit of Antarctica?

Actually, here is a better question, why does your opinion matter?

[Camelza]

I know, but I guess at the time of the extinction people didn't really care about animal rights. :C
What's happening to the Amazon is indeed crucial, but no one pays as much attention as is needed. Cutting down the rainforest will have worse implications in the environment than china's rampant dirty industrialism.

The worst aspect is that we aren't even a people very prone to destruction of a given species just for the hell of it in the first place.

We generally aren't the ones to hunt marine species to the point of threatening them, and most predatory illegal hunting in the more visible, densely-inhabited, accessible regions has been clamp down.

It's just the big, rich and powerful causing endless habitat loss with profit in sight, as always. Our drought is not as much about the Amazon as it is about the much more threatened Cerrado and the minor woodlands around rivers and springs, that became our breadbasket without any planning or regard.

Not to mention that going against the will of said powerful people is quite bad for anyone's health. Anyway, everyone should do something down there to stir them away from their destructive course. Over here we have laws that forbid cutting down natural woods, the only trees that are permitted to be cut are from tree farms and quite rarely from large forests(with restrictions) after a large period of leaving said forest to replenish.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I believe in self-determination. AFAIK, those in the FIs have stated that they wish to remain British so, that's answer enough.

In March 2013, the Falkland Islands held a referendum on its political status, and 99.8 percent of voters favoured remaining under British rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_I ... ty_dispute

The Spanish roots are, in the face of this, irrelevant. Argentina's claim, in the face of this, is also irrelevant.

[Celibrae]

Experience what?

Fish and chips? A giant ferris wheel? Rain?

Racism and Fear

Such Fear

[Edgy Opinions]

It's supposed to?

The underdeveloped world tending to have its interests usually run over is a pretty good reason for it to act in concert and help the interests of nations in similar situations.

The Falklands are British.

Legal and political aspects aside, the people of the Falkland Islands themselves say they are British. So why is there a debate?

Smiting developed countries that have part of its success directly derived from the continual understatus of others and that actively geopolitically contribute to said self-interests (or the interest of solely the greater power that helps them co-reign) under certain contexts is very, very fun.

[Kaztropol]

Legal and political aspects aside, the people of the Falkland Islands themselves say they are British. So why is there a debate?

one of the arguments, is that as an implanted colonial population, their opinion should be disregarded.

which is a whole can of worms, that is surprising that people bring it up. E.g. If the indigenous peoples of South America voted to expel implanted colonial populations, then President Kirchner would have to leave (to where?).

[American California]

I believe in self-determination. AFAIK, those in the FIs have stated that they wish to remain British so, that's answer enough.

In March 2013, the Falkland Islands held a referendum on its political status, and 99.8 percent of voters favoured remaining under British rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_I ... ty_dispute

The Spanish roots are, in the face of this, irrelevant. Argentina's claim, in the face of this, is also irrelevant.

The Spanish roots in the Falklands are pretty negligible too. There's just Port Louis (Puerto Soledad), which originally was a French settlement anyways.

[Geanna]

Legal and political aspects aside, the people of the Falkland Islands themselves say they are British. So why is there a debate?

one of the arguments, is that as an implanted colonial population, their opinion should be disregarded.

which is a whole can of worms, that is surprising that people bring it up. E.g. If the indigenous peoples of South America voted to expel implanted colonial populations, then President Kirchner would have to leave (to where?).

Maybe she could seek asylum in the UK.

Oh, the Irony that would hold

[American California]

It's supposed to?

The underdeveloped world tending to have its interests usually run over is a pretty good reason for it to act in concert and help the interests of nations in similar situations.

Chile is not underdeveloped. At all.

The Falklands are British.

Legal and political aspects aside, the people of the Falkland Islands themselves say they are British. So why is there a debate?

Smiting developed countries that have part of its success directly derived from the continual understatus of others and that actively geopolitically contribute to said self-interests (or the interest of solely the greater power that helps them co-reign) under certain contexts is very, very fun.

This is foolish. You're basically saying the Falklander's sovereignty should be ignored because you don't like the policies of past British governments.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I believe in self-determination. AFAIK, those in the FIs have stated that they wish to remain British so, that's answer enough.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_I ... ty_dispute

The Spanish roots are, in the face of this, irrelevant. Argentina's claim, in the face of this, is also irrelevant.

The Spanish roots in the Falklands are pretty negligible too. There's just Port Louis (Puerto Soledad), which originally a French settlement anyways.

You post that as if I'm not already quite aware.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The Falklands are British.

Legal and political aspects aside, the people of the Falkland Islands themselves say they are British. So why is there a debate?

Because people are not allowed to live in peace if their ancestors did something bad to another group or people and thus must be treated like absolute shit according some of our more xenophobic posters or because of a treaty several hundred years old that gives another country a claim on their home and the occasional dickheadery of some of the people from said country.

[American California]

Legal and political aspects aside, the people of the Falkland Islands themselves say they are British. So why is there a debate?

one of the arguments, is that as an implanted colonial population, their opinion should be disregarded.

which is a whole can of worms, that is surprising that people bring it up. E.g. If the indigenous peoples of South America voted to expel implanted colonial populations, then President Kirchner would have to leave (to where?).

Well in the case of the northern half of North America, and the southern tip of South America, the so-called indigenous all but perished, so there wouldn't be many people voting anyways.

[Edgy Opinions]

Not to mention that going against the will of said powerful people is quite bad for anyone's health. Anyway, everyone should do something down there to stir them away from their destructive course. Over here we have laws that forbid cutting down natural woods, the only trees that are permitted to be cut are from tree farms and quite rarely from large forests(with restrictions) after a large period of leaving said forest to replenish.

The government usually has the excuse that Brazil has enough land to not need land reform so it's transformed in a class issue and thus swept under the rug.

Now this water and energy crisis comes in hand a year after all the country showed increasingly dissatisfied with the lawlhuge, tribe-flooding, nature-wrecking new major hydroelectric projects.