Global warming is inevitable, v2

[Iwassoclose]

Its going to be tough but man kind will adapt to its climate. The whole water level rising is going to take 100-200 years to see major effects. In this time we can improve our infrastructure and our defenses around our coastal cities and population centers. We can easily prepare for extreme weathers as well. Hotter summers, colder winters,wetter spring. These can all be easily overcome. Human ingenuity will not stop working.

Weather modification technologies such as cloud seeding, lasers and so many more to control the extreme weathers are ALREADY in use and continue to be developed. Just imagine how far these technologies will reach in 10, 20, 50 years from now.

Human infrastructure such as damns and dikes to stop flooding. Redirecting water from population centers by moving the drainage somewhere else. Most of these infrastructure projects take less then a decade to build (i.e. Netherlands) add maybe another five for planning. But it is easily doable.

For droughts, we already have the technology to produce the purest of waters. One US aircraft produces millions of gallons by itself. We can also build the infrastructure to move the water across entire continents. As proven by our ability to build millions of kilometers of pipeline for the oil and gas industry.

Global warming is not going to end the world as we know it. Billions are not going to die.

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[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

So basically what you're saying is "It doesn't matter how bad we screw things up now, because new technology will save us!"

I mean, as long as our kids can manage to barely survive with the world we leave them, why shouldn't we live it up?

[Geilinor]

The goal of climate change legislation should be to slow it down and then fund scientific research.

[Iwassoclose]

So basically what you're saying is "It doesn't matter how bad we screw things up now, because new technology will save us!"

I mean, as long as our kids can manage to barely survive with the world we leave them, why shouldn't we live it up?

How are we screwing things up? More industry means more innovation for the future generations.

Barely survive? What kind of hellscape do you think its going to be?

[Iwassoclose]

The goal of climate change legislation should be to slow it down and then fund scientific research.

What does scientific research encompass? Because if it means spending more money to hear the same thing, its a waste of funds.

We should however be funding research on infrastructure and technology that will be necessary to prepare and combat for climate change.

[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

The goal of climate change legislation should be to slow it down and then fund scientific research.

What does scientific research encompass? Because if it means spending more money to hear the same thing, its a waste of funds.

We should however be funding research on infrastructure and technology that will be necessary to prepare and combat for climate change.

Alternate energy sources to reduce and eventually eliminate our reliance on fossil fuels.
Methods to technologically or ecologically recapture the carbon and pull it out of our atmosphere, or otherwise reduce solar input.

as well as what you are suggesting.

[Iwassoclose]

Deterrence WAS a good plan. However with the new emerging markets across three different continents, even if we cut back and try to switch over to alternatives. It will be pointless. There are many many times the number of people in those countries than all of North America. It is better to start preparing right now for the effects.

[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

Deterrence WAS a good plan. However with the new emerging markets across three different continents, even if we cut back and try to switch over to alternatives. It will be pointless. There are many many times the number of people in those countries than all of North America. It is better to start preparing right now for the effects.

Do you think there is some upper limit to how bad things can get if we just keep producing more and more carbon and never stop?

[Purpelia]

Deterrence WAS a good plan. However with the new emerging markets across three different continents, even if we cut back and try to switch over to alternatives. It will be pointless. There are many many times the number of people in those countries than all of North America. It is better to start preparing right now for the effects.

Do you think there is some upper limit to how bad things can get if we just keep producing more and more carbon and never stop?

Well there kind of is. I mean, there will come a point where we will just all die from the effects. And you can't get much worse than that.

[Geilinor]

Deterrence WAS a good plan. However with the new emerging markets across three different continents, even if we cut back and try to switch over to alternatives. It will be pointless. There are many many times the number of people in those countries than all of North America. It is better to start preparing right now for the effects.

We can't force those countries to change, but we can try to lead by example.

[Iwassoclose]

Deterrence WAS a good plan. However with the new emerging markets across three different continents, even if we cut back and try to switch over to alternatives. It will be pointless. There are many many times the number of people in those countries than all of North America. It is better to start preparing right now for the effects.

Do you think there is some upper limit to how bad things can get if we just keep producing more and more carbon and never stop?

Yes but I doubt we will ever really get to that.

[Iwassoclose]

Deterrence WAS a good plan. However with the new emerging markets across three different continents, even if we cut back and try to switch over to alternatives. It will be pointless. There are many many times the number of people in those countries than all of North America. It is better to start preparing right now for the effects.

We can't force those countries to change, but we can try to lead by example.

We are a bad example, our entire society is built on oil. We would be asking them to cripple themselves without having our kind of resources to back them up.

[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

Yes but I doubt we will ever really get to that.

Why, when you don't think we should do anything to mitigate the problem?

[Olivaero]

Deterrence WAS a good plan. However with the new emerging markets across three different continents, even if we cut back and try to switch over to alternatives. It will be pointless. There are many many times the number of people in those countries than all of North America. It is better to start preparing right now for the effects.

Or how about, we focus research into cheap renewable electricity so that it becomes more economically viable to use it instead of petrochemicals and carbon? That way we can get those developing countries to switch on their own because it would be economically unsound not to.

[Vazdaria]

Its going to be tough but man kind will adapt to its climate. The whole water level rising is going to take 100-200 years to see major effects. In this time we can improve our infrastructure and our defenses around our coastal cities and population centers. We can easily prepare for extreme weathers as well. Hotter summers, colder winters,wetter spring. These can all be easily overcome. Human ingenuity will not stop working.

Weather modification technologies such as cloud seeding, lasers and so many more to control the extreme weathers are ALREADY in use and continue to be developed. Just imagine how far these technologies will reach in 10, 20, 50 years from now.

Human infrastructure such as damns and dikes to stop flooding. Redirecting water from population centers by moving the drainage somewhere else. Most of these infrastructure projects take less then a decade to build (i.e. Netherlands) add maybe another five for planning. But it is easily doable.

For droughts, we already have the technology to produce the purest of waters. One US aircraft produces millions of gallons by itself. We can also build the infrastructure to move the water across entire continents. As proven by our ability to build millions of kilometers of pipeline for the oil and gas industry.

Global warming is not going to end the world as we know it. Billions are not going to die.

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I don't like temperatures above 52 degrees. Can we work on cooling the planet down to that temperature???

[Iwassoclose]

Yes but I doubt we will ever really get to that.

Why, when you don't think we should do anything to mitigate the problem?

Well we can work on trying to lower co2, but I cant think of any right now other then reducing fossil fuels and thats not happening.

[Iwassoclose]

Deterrence WAS a good plan. However with the new emerging markets across three different continents, even if we cut back and try to switch over to alternatives. It will be pointless. There are many many times the number of people in those countries than all of North America. It is better to start preparing right now for the effects.

Or how about, we focus research into cheap renewable electricity so that it becomes more economically viable to use it instead of petrochemicals and carbon? That way we can get those developing countries to switch on their own because it would be economically unsound not to.

What is cheap renewable electricity that can feul the need for billions?

[Faith Hope Charity]

the goal of climate change legislation is control.

[Iwassoclose]

I don't like temperatures above 52 degrees. Can we work on cooling the planet down to that temperature???

Dont worry, winter will be extra cold.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Blog post is inevitable v2.

[Iwassoclose]

the goal of climate change legislation is control.

I don't think us reducing our fossil fuel use is going to make a difference in the upcoming decades.

[Iwassoclose]

Blog post is inevitable v2.

We can have a discussion, or you can snipe. Its alright.

[Nerotysia]

Its going to be tough but man kind will adapt to its climate. The whole water level rising is going to take 100-200 years to see major effects. In this time we can improve our infrastructure and our defenses around our coastal cities and population centers. We can easily prepare for extreme weathers as well. Hotter summers, colder winters,wetter spring. These can all be easily overcome. Human ingenuity will not stop working.

Weather modification technologies such as cloud seeding, lasers and so many more to control the extreme weathers are ALREADY in use and continue to be developed. Just imagine how far these technologies will reach in 10, 20, 50 years from now.

Human infrastructure such as damns and dikes to stop flooding. Redirecting water from population centers by moving the drainage somewhere else. Most of these infrastructure projects take less then a decade to build (i.e. Netherlands) add maybe another five for planning. But it is easily doable.

For droughts, we already have the technology to produce the purest of waters. One US aircraft produces millions of gallons by itself. We can also build the infrastructure to move the water across entire continents. As proven by our ability to build millions of kilometers of pipeline for the oil and gas industry.

Global warming is not going to end the world as we know it. Billions are not going to die.

Mods, tell me if I need to add more content in mail.

Global warming is not the only environmental problem we face, by a long shot. However it is the most serious one.

How do you know diverting the flooding will be easy? Much of the flooding will occur in piss-poor nations with overinflated populations - possibly the worst places on the planet for a flood. I think you underestimate the amount of time, money and energy it will take to get even half-decent flood control systems running in those nations.

I need a source for this magical ability to produce the purest of waters.

I agree in general that human ingenuity will solve this problem. I don't think that means we can rest on our laurels.

[Nerotysia]

the goal of climate change legislation is control.

But of course.

[Iwassoclose]

Global warming is not the only environmental problem we face, by a long shot. However it is the most serious one.

How do you know diverting the flooding will be easy? Much of the flooding will occur in piss-poor nations with overinflated populations - possibly the worst places on the planet for a flood. I think you underestimate the amount of time, money and energy it will take to get even half-decent flood control systems running in those nations.

I need a source for this magical ability to produce the purest of waters.

I agree in general that human ingenuity will solve this problem. I don't think that means we can rest on our laurels.

What other environmental problem do we face bigger then climate change?

For the poorer nations, they will have no choice but to move inland i.e. island nations in the pacific for example.

As for the pure water -

This includes an onboard desalination plant that can turn 400,000 gallons (~1,500,000 liters) of saltwater into drinkable freshwater every day -- that's enough for 2,000 homes.

Source

That is from one desalination plant on board an aircraft.

California is already investing heavily because they are one of the regions that is going to be heavily affected (and is affected) by droughts.

The crews are building what boosters say represents California's best hope for a drought-proof water supply: the largest ocean desalination plant in the Western Hemisphere. The $1 billion project will provide 50 million gallons of drinking water a day for San Diego County when it opens in 2016.

And more is on the way.

Fifteen desalination projects are proposed along the coast from Los Angeles to San Francisco Bay. Desalination technology is becoming more efficient.