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Postby New Frenco Empire » Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:13 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote::rofl: North Korea would get whooped by our awesomeness. My patriotism aside, the war would be pretty long, but end the same way, North Korea being virtually destroyed and the American Economy pretty crappy. No winners. Simple as that.

The U.S would be pretty clear-cut victors. The Korean War ended the way it did due to Chinese involvement.

Any war will pretty much be just like the Korean War, except the Chinese are more likely to launch an offensive rather than save them and Korea's military is hardly more advanced than it was back in 1951. There is literally no reason why the U.S would suffer, aside from Nork launching it's few nukes at it's allies to the South and the East.
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:02 pm

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Australian Antarctica wrote::rofl: North Korea would get whooped by our awesomeness. My patriotism aside, the war would be pretty long, but end the same way, North Korea being virtually destroyed and the American Economy pretty crappy. No winners. Simple as that.

Long? The war would last maybe a month at the very most. The U.S would easily squash NK like a bug. They're hardly even a threat as it is with their 1950's technology and starving population that almost certainly dislikes their oppressive government.

Don't underestimate the inevitable Guerrilla War that a war between the US and DPRK would devolve into. Asymmetrical warfare is a bitch and it makes for a long, bloody conflict.
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Postby Bratislavskaya » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:13 pm

Caribica wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote::rofl: North Korea would get whooped by our awesomeness. My patriotism aside, the war would be pretty long, but end the same way, North Korea being virtually destroyed and the American Economy pretty crappy. No winners. Simple as that.

Long? The war would last maybe a month at the very most. The U.S would easily squash NK like a bug. They're hardly even a threat as it is with their 1950's technology and starving population that almost certainly dislikes their oppressive government.

As mentioned it would definitely devolve into a guerrilla conflict. I'm many Koreans (even in the South to an extent) support the government in the North. And the North Korean Army is probably in at least the 80s, and due to sheer size does pose a decent threat to any potential enemies, especially in a defensive conflict. Not only that but the population hasn't been starving since around 2003 when the situation began to recover. In 2014 they grew enough to feed the entire nation themselves, without imports.
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This thread evokes thoughts of the Cold War. People feared a Soviet attack.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:48 pm

Scomagia wrote:Don't underestimate the inevitable Guerrilla War that a war between the US and DPRK would devolve into. Asymmetrical warfare is a bitch and it makes for a long, bloody conflict.

This assumes guerrilla warfare is inevitable. NK is too totalitarian to stand. If we push down the main state apparatus resistance will dissolve, so long as we leave SK to occupation duties.
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Postby Shlapp » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:54 pm

Scepez wrote:This week on Shit N.Korea Says...

They're missiles probably will miss and hit the ocean instead, considering their backward nature. It's a kid with a slingshot and bad aim against Arnold Schwarzenegger with a Machine Gun. Gee, I wonder who will win?

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:04 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:This thread evokes thoughts of the Cold War. People feared a Soviet attack.

Except that it in no way evokes thoughts of the Cold War, since the Soviet Union was much more than a failed state led by a manchild and backed by a few inadequate warheads and a malnourished, poorly-equipped military.
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:23 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Don't underestimate the inevitable Guerrilla War that a war between the US and DPRK would devolve into. Asymmetrical warfare is a bitch and it makes for a long, bloody conflict.

This assumes guerrilla warfare is inevitable. NK is too totalitarian to stand. If we push down the main state apparatus resistance will dissolve, so long as we leave SK to occupation duties.

It's doubtful that all of the DPRK's military would surrender so easily. It seems likely that enough of them would continue fighting that we'd end up with a protracted, bloody war.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:29 pm

Scomagia wrote: It's doubtful that all of the DPRK's military would surrender so easily. It seems likely that enough of them would continue fighting that we'd end up with a protracted, bloody war.

It's more likely to my eyes that the DPRK's military would waste its strength in a big conventional show and be utterly decimated by the time occupation became a concern.
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Postby Harkback Union » Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:34 pm

New Frenco Empire wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote::rofl: North Korea would get whooped by our awesomeness. My patriotism aside, the war would be pretty long, but end the same way, North Korea being virtually destroyed and the American Economy pretty crappy. No winners. Simple as that.

The U.S would be pretty clear-cut victors. The Korean War ended the way it did due to Chinese involvement.

Any war will pretty much be just like the Korean War, except the Chinese are more likely to launch an offensive rather than save them and Korea's military is hardly more advanced than it was back in 1951. There is literally no reason why the U.S would suffer, aside from Nork launching it's few nukes at it's allies to the South and the East.


Japan or south Korea getting nuked would pretty much leave the entire region in chaos. With nobody to keep the global economy afloat, the US would be very soon bankrupt. I don't see how that's a victory for anyone.

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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:08 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Alright. Let's all put our international grievances aside for a month or two to replace NK's government with something more sensible. China, feel free to take the lead.

I think I go be a more sensible ruler.
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United Russian Soviet States wrote:This thread evokes thoughts of the Cold War. People feared a Soviet attack.

Except that it in no way evokes thoughts of the Cold War, since the Soviet Union was much more than a failed state led by a manchild and backed by a few inadequate warheads and a malnourished, poorly-equipped military.

They were more dangerous than North Korea.
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Postby Caribica » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:05 pm

This isn't really relevant to the NK threats but has anyone else heard that some guy in Seoul shanked the U.S ambassador?

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Postby Seraven » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:55 am

greed and death wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Alright. Let's all put our international grievances aside for a month or two to replace NK's government with something more sensible. China, feel free to take the lead.

I think I go be a more sensible ruler.


What? South Koreans?
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Postby Arumdaum » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:30 pm

Caribica wrote:This isn't really relevant to the NK threats but has anyone else heard that some guy in Seoul shanked the U.S ambassador?

We had a thread on that.
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-See's North Korea threaten to obliterate South Korea and the United States

-See's their fleet of out of date Military equipment

-Laugh's heartily as i imagine US aircraft obliterating battalions of KPA tanks.
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Imperial City-States wrote:-See's North Korea threaten to obliterate South Korea and the United States

-See's their fleet of out of date Military equipment

-Laugh's heartily as i imagine US aircraft obliterating battalions of KPA tanks.

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Postby Galloism » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:59 am

Imperial City-States wrote:-See's North Korea threaten to obliterate South Korea and the United States

-See's their fleet of out of date Military equipment

-Laugh's heartily as i imagine US aircraft obliterating battalions of KPA tanks.

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Galloism wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:-See's North Korea threaten to obliterate South Korea and the United States

-See's their fleet of out of date Military equipment

-Laugh's heartily as i imagine US aircraft obliterating battalions of KPA tanks.

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USA! USA! USA!


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Postby Rupudska » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:17 am

United Russian Soviet States wrote:This thread evokes thoughts of the Cold War. People feared a Soviet attack.


Except, considering how primitive North Korea's missile program likely is, there's almost zero chance of Best Korea actually hitting the US. Not just because of the Taepodong line's affinity for water, but because of NORAD, reduced as it is.

greed and death wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Alright. Let's all put our international grievances aside for a month or two to replace NK's government with something more sensible. China, feel free to take the lead.

I think I go be a more sensible ruler.


I think you accidentally that sentence.

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Because America getting what it wants in this situation (A United Korea under the South's government) would be so much worse than the current situation. Sure, China would be unhappy about losing the only 'Communist' 'ally' it really has left, but it would soon get over that.
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Rupudska wrote:
Edgy Opinions wrote:ahahahaha AHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAUHAUHAUHAUHAU HAUEHAUAIEhUAuaEHUAhuaea huehuehuehuehue

no

Because America getting what it wants in this situation (A United Korea under the South's government) would be so much worse than the current situation. Sure, China would be unhappy about losing the only 'Communist' 'ally' it really has left, but it would soon get over that.

Beneficial =/= "well-meaning"
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Edgy Opinions wrote:
Rupudska wrote:Because America getting what it wants in this situation (A United Korea under the South's government) would be so much worse than the current situation. Sure, China would be unhappy about losing the only 'Communist' 'ally' it really has left, but it would soon get over that.

Beneficial =/= "well-meaning"


Well, when it's related to China indirectly or otherwise, I willingly admit that most things America does will probably have an ulterior motive. Namely trying to stay Player One.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:31 am

Rupudska wrote:
Edgy Opinions wrote:Beneficial =/= "well-meaning"


Well, when it's related to China indirectly or otherwise, I willingly admit that most things America does will probably have an ulterior motive. Namely trying to stay Player One.


Well given the geographic location of the United States (having access to both major Oceans), being a major commerce center and having a vast wealth of natural resources, And the fiercely competitive American nature (in my experience at least). The US won't obviously remain number 1 forever but i feel that it will always be relevant in some manner. No one does anything out of the goodness of their heart, there is always an ulterior motive. (Agreeing with you)
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