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Do you support the reintroduction of conscription in Lithuania?

Yes, I support the reintroduction of conscription in Lithuania
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No, I don't support the reintroduction of conscription in Lithuania
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Total votes : 237

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Postby Genivaria » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:59 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Genivaria wrote:In what situation does a country not have that right?


The right? According to who?

Rights are irrelevant.

Its about whether or not its strategic for you to fight or not.

The answer is yes.
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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:59 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Genivaria wrote:In what situation does a country not have that right?


The right? According to who?

Rights are irrelevant.

Its about whether or not its strategic for you to fight or not.


Gee, Poland would love to have a word with you.

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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:00 pm

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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:00 pm

The balkens wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The right? According to who?

Rights are irrelevant.

Its about whether or not its strategic for you to fight or not.


Gee, Poland would love to have a word with you.

am polish


can confirm already having a word with IM
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:01 pm

The balkens wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The right? According to who?

Rights are irrelevant.

Its about whether or not its strategic for you to fight or not.


Gee, Poland would love to have a word with you.


Poland fought with honour.

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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:01 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The right? According to who?

Rights are irrelevant.

Its about whether or not its strategic for you to fight or not.

There will always be some sort of sense of honor in defending your home, IM.

Do you honestly think theres a country out there (besides the Vatican) that won't go down without a fight?



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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:02 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Gee, Poland would love to have a word with you.


Poland fought with honour.

I'm flattered.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:03 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:I for one fail to see how 3500-7000 conscripts could improve its defense capabilities. The reintroduction of cinscription, OTOH, opens all passible ways for corrupt officials to capitalise on it (just look at the Ukraine right now and the rising rate of bribes required to "buy" yourself a right dignosis to dodge the military service). I for one won't be surprised, if after adoption of this initiative Lithuanians would (re)join the international brotherhood of draft-dodgers.

This is like three to five combat regiments at arms.

This is a lot.
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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:03 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Gee, Poland would love to have a word with you.


Poland fought with honour.


It fought a losing battle that in no way shape or form could win. Not even the winged hussars couldve saved them.

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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:05 pm

The balkens wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Poland fought with honour.


It fought a losing battle that in no way shape or form could win. Not even the winged hussars couldve saved them.

What else do you get besides being in the dead center of Europe? Thats Polish history.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:07 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:Have you seen the map? Russia is hardly a "neghbor" for Lithuania.


It's a three-hour drive from the rest of Russia to the Lithuanian border (according to Google Maps).

And what about "invading countries left and right"? Russia for the last 20 years had more peaceful and non-interventional foreign policy then the US.


Chechnya (twice), Georgia, Moldovia (although wasn't "sanctioned" initially), and obviously the Great Ukrainian Land Grab.

Now if you want to compare it to the U.S, then that's another story, though even Iraqis didn't want us to leave. But hey, maybe the the Chechnyans and Georgians like ethnic conflicts that Russian supports.

Or, what - you want to tell us about all those countless and totally innocent countries that Russia "invaded left in right"?


I recall an old article I read from 1939, with the author saying that Hitler's invasion of the Sudetenland and annexation of Austria wasn't a sign of war, but merely aggravation by jingoists in the soon-to-be-Allied countries. Apparently Neville Chamberlain agreed.


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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:07 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
The balkens wrote:
It fought a losing battle that in no way shape or form could win. Not even the winged hussars couldve saved them.

What else do you get besides being in the dead center of Europe? Thats Polish history.
"Hey Jan. Hows it going?"
"Good, good. Ready for Friday's invasion?"
"Yeah, but I still gotta get ready for Mondays. Never knew the Turks came this far north."
"I'm more concerned with why we're being invaded by the Ethiopians on Wednesday."


Hey, Prussia took good care of what? 40% of your territory?

You best be watching it cuz im watching you.
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Postby Lytenburgh » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:11 pm

Jetan wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
if it results in less lives lost and less buildings destroyed with a similar result, why not?

Because the fuckers are trying to occupy or annex you, that's why.


Whom are you refering here? Who want's to occupy and annex Lithuania? Byelarus?

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Postby Draakonite » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:13 pm

The balkens wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Poland fought with honour.


It fought a losing battle that in no way shape or form could win. Not even the winged hussars couldve saved them.


If their allies actually acted instead of just doing nothing... either way, poland should have preemptively invaded germany in 1933.

In my opinion, a only male draft would make sense for a total war lasting for at least a decade, not for a total occupation after a month followed by a total liberation in the next.

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Postby Little Sealand » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:13 pm

This has snowballed from conscription to national pride.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:17 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Jetan wrote:Because the fuckers are trying to occupy or annex you, that's why.


Whom are you refering here? Who want's to occupy and annex Lithuania? Byelarus?

:meh:

Draakonite wrote:
The balkens wrote:
It fought a losing battle that in no way shape or form could win. Not even the winged hussars couldve saved them.


If their allies actually acted instead of just doing nothing... either way, poland should have preemptively invaded germany in 1933.

In my opinion, a only male draft would make sense for a total war lasting for at least a decade, not for a total occupation after a month followed by a total liberation in the next.

:rofl:
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:17 pm

Little Sealand wrote:This has snowballed from conscription to national pride.

We were having a decent discussion about it earlier.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:18 pm

Little Sealand wrote:This has snowballed from conscription to national pride.

It's a thread vaguely relating the military, what did you expect?
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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:18 pm

Draakonite wrote:
The balkens wrote:
It fought a losing battle that in no way shape or form could win. Not even the winged hussars couldve saved them.


If their allies actually acted instead of just doing nothing... either way, poland should have preemptively invaded germany in 1933.

In my opinion, a only male draft would make sense for a total war lasting for at least a decade, not for a total occupation after a month followed by a total liberation in the next.


I agree that Poland shouldve removed the Nazis from Power.

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Postby Lytenburgh » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:22 pm

Little Sealand wrote:Russia has also stepped up military snap drills near the Baltic states. In 2014, over 40 Russian military vessels were sighted in Lithuanian water, compared to one in 2010. NATO jets are often scrambled to intercept Russian jets in the area as well. The conscription could buy more time for other forces to arrive. Or it could result in more deaths.

http://www.newsweek.com/russian-snap-mi ... tal-308752


How many minutes these few thousands of conscripts could buy? Tell me, please!

As for "terrifying Russian drills" - Russis a) Can do anything on its territory b) It actually does this kind of things since like forever..

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Postby Little Sealand » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:22 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Little Sealand wrote:This has snowballed from conscription to national pride.

We were having a decent discussion about it earlier.

Yea, earlier

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Little Sealand wrote:This has snowballed from conscription to national pride.

It's a thread vaguely relating the military, what did you expect?

NS can't handle civilized discussions?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:23 pm

Little Sealand wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:It's a thread vaguely relating the military, what did you expect?

NS can't handle civilized discussions?

Wow, you are sheltered.
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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:24 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Little Sealand wrote:Russia has also stepped up military snap drills near the Baltic states. In 2014, over 40 Russian military vessels were sighted in Lithuanian water, compared to one in 2010. NATO jets are often scrambled to intercept Russian jets in the area as well. The conscription could buy more time for other forces to arrive. Or it could result in more deaths.

http://www.newsweek.com/russian-snap-mi ... tal-308752


How many minutes these few thousands of conscripts could buy? Tell me, please!

As for "terrifying Russian drills" - Russis a) Can do anything on its territory b) It actually does this kind of things since like forever..

Enough time for Nato to come in and throw the Invaders out.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:24 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Little Sealand wrote:Russia has also stepped up military snap drills near the Baltic states. In 2014, over 40 Russian military vessels were sighted in Lithuanian water, compared to one in 2010. NATO jets are often scrambled to intercept Russian jets in the area as well. The conscription could buy more time for other forces to arrive. Or it could result in more deaths.

http://www.newsweek.com/russian-snap-mi ... tal-308752


How many minutes these few thousands of conscripts could buy? Tell me, please!

As for "terrifying Russian drills" - Russis a) Can do anything on its territory b) It actually does this kind of things since like forever..

Three to five combat regiments at arms could hold their positions for probably a few days.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:25 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Little Sealand wrote:Russia has also stepped up military snap drills near the Baltic states. In 2014, over 40 Russian military vessels were sighted in Lithuanian water, compared to one in 2010. NATO jets are often scrambled to intercept Russian jets in the area as well. The conscription could buy more time for other forces to arrive. Or it could result in more deaths.

http://www.newsweek.com/russian-snap-mi ... tal-308752


How many minutes these few thousands of conscripts could buy? Tell me, please!

As for "terrifying Russian drills" - Russis a) Can do anything on its territory b) It actually does this kind of things since like forever..

Thousands of additional men do have a tendency to increase one's tactical and strategic flexibility, so it would depend on the situation.

Also, at risk of being Russophobic, I must point out that Russian 'drills' in Lithuanian waters aren't in Russian territory.
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