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Do you support the reintroduction of conscription in Lithuania?

Yes, I support the reintroduction of conscription in Lithuania
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No, I don't support the reintroduction of conscription in Lithuania
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Postby Iwassoclose » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:25 pm

70% for and 30% against, good. NSG has come through. :clap:

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Postby Draakonite » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:28 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
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Whom are you refering here? Who want's to occupy and annex Lithuania? Byelarus?

:meh:

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If their allies actually acted instead of just doing nothing... either way, poland should have preemptively invaded germany in 1933.

In my opinion, a only male draft would make sense for a total war lasting for at least a decade, not for a total occupation after a month followed by a total liberation in the next.

:rofl:


Why funny? If Hitler had the same level of insanity back then, It shouldn't be to hard to break through the 1933 Reichswehr, which lacked ammunition reserves and heavy equipment, and which whould be micromanaged by a moron.

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Postby Edward Richtofen » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:28 pm

what are they going to do? Slow Russia down for 2 minutes?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:28 pm

Draakonite wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote: :meh:


:rofl:


Why funny? If Hitler had the same level of insanity back then, It shouldn't be to hard to break through the 1933 Reichswehr, which lacked ammunition reserves and heavy equipment, and which whould be micromanaged by a moron.

Which also had a five-million strong paramilitary which would back the regular army.

Hitler's "insanity" was a product of the War. He was mostly inept, not insane.
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Postby Little Sealand » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:29 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Little Sealand wrote:Russia has also stepped up military snap drills near the Baltic states. In 2014, over 40 Russian military vessels were sighted in Lithuanian water, compared to one in 2010. NATO jets are often scrambled to intercept Russian jets in the area as well. The conscription could buy more time for other forces to arrive. Or it could result in more deaths.

http://www.newsweek.com/russian-snap-mi ... tal-308752


How many minutes these few thousands of conscripts could buy? Tell me, please!

As for "terrifying Russian drills" - Russis a) Can do anything on its territory b) It actually does this kind of things since like forever..

Finland was able to hold off the Russian military during WW2 for an impressive amount of time. And 3000 per year, can add up pretty fast, and allow Russians to take less land while NATO responds. It's better to at least try to defend your home, a nation that isn't worth defending isn't worth living in.
NATO also has stationed troops in Lithuania, which is a big deterrent right now.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:29 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
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How many minutes these few thousands of conscripts could buy? Tell me, please!

As for "terrifying Russian drills" - Russis a) Can do anything on its territory b) It actually does this kind of things since like forever..

Thousands of additional men do have a tendency to increase one's tactical and strategic flexibility, so it would depend on the situation.

Also, at risk of being Russophobic, I must point out that Russian 'drills' in Lithuanian waters aren't in Russian territory.

TBH I've never understood why Russia's so intent on reaching out with its military forces to gently dingle on other nations' territories.
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Postby Lytenburgh » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:29 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Lytenburgh wrote:I for one fail to see how 3500-7000 conscripts could improve its defense capabilities. The reintroduction of cinscription, OTOH, opens all passible ways for corrupt officials to capitalise on it (just look at the Ukraine right now and the rising rate of bribes required to "buy" yourself a right dignosis to dodge the military service). I for one won't be surprised, if after adoption of this initiative Lithuanians would (re)join the international brotherhood of draft-dodgers.

This is like three to five combat regiments at arms.

This is a lot.


This is how NATO military organised this day? So little people can form a "regiment"?

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:30 pm

Little Sealand wrote:
Lytenburgh wrote:
How many minutes these few thousands of conscripts could buy? Tell me, please!

As for "terrifying Russian drills" - Russis a) Can do anything on its territory b) It actually does this kind of things since like forever..

Finland was able to hold off the Russian military during WW2 for an impressive amount of time. And 3000 per year, can add up pretty fast, and allow Russians to take less land while NATO responds. It's better to at least try to defend your home, a nation that isn't worth defending isn't worth living in.
NATO also has stationed troops in Lithuania, which is a big deterrent right now.

The Winter War isn't really relevant to anything except the Winter War.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:30 pm

If they feel like they need it, then fine. I see little harm in it.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:30 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:This is like three to five combat regiments at arms.

This is a lot.


This is how NATO military organised this day? So little people can form a "regiment"?

Russia is moving towards brigadisation, is it not?
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Postby Lytenburgh » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:32 pm

The balkens wrote:
Lytenburgh wrote:
How many minutes these few thousands of conscripts could buy? Tell me, please!

As for "terrifying Russian drills" - Russis a) Can do anything on its territory b) It actually does this kind of things since like forever..

Enough time for Nato to come in and throw the Invaders out.


So, how many?

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Postby Little Sealand » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:32 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:This is like three to five combat regiments at arms.

This is a lot.


This is how NATO military organised this day? So little people can form a "regiment"?

That was the Lithuanian AF, not NATO, regiment sizes also vary from county to country.
Around 800 is usual I think
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Postby Lytenburgh » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:33 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Three to five combat regiments at arms could hold their positions for probably a few days.


Against what kind of opposing force?

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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:33 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
The balkens wrote:Enough time for Nato to come in and throw the Invaders out.


So, how many?


Couple days, a week.

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Postby Cyrisnia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:33 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
The balkens wrote:Enough time for Nato to come in and throw the Invaders out.


So, how many?

How many minutes will it take General Lyt to invade Lithuania?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:34 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Three to five combat regiments at arms could hold their positions for probably a few days.


Against what kind of opposing force?

One it is designed to defend against.
Likely, a Russian opposing force.
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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:35 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
Lytenburgh wrote:
So, how many?

How many minutes will it take General Lyt to invade Lithuania?


30 seconds.
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Postby Lytenburgh » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:35 pm

Little Sealand wrote:Finland was able to hold off the Russian military during WW2 for an impressive amount of time. And 3000 per year, can add up pretty fast, and allow Russians to take less land while NATO responds. It's better to at least try to defend your home, a nation that isn't worth defending isn't worth living in.
NATO also has stationed troops in Lithuania, which is a big deterrent right now.


Oh, yes! Becasue:

1) Nothing imporved miltary-wise since 1940

2) Lithuania (and Baltics) are tottally like Finland! 1:1 copy! Yes!

3) And just how many troops NATO have in Lithuania right now?

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Postby Little Sealand » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:36 pm

The U.S. also has current military presence in the rest of the Baltic states, so if the 3-4,000 Lithuanian soldiers team up with the U.S. force, they will be able to hold out much longer.
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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:37 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Little Sealand wrote:Finland was able to hold off the Russian military during WW2 for an impressive amount of time. And 3000 per year, can add up pretty fast, and allow Russians to take less land while NATO responds. It's better to at least try to defend your home, a nation that isn't worth defending isn't worth living in.
NATO also has stationed troops in Lithuania, which is a big deterrent right now.


Oh, yes! Becasue:

1) Nothing imporved miltary-wise since 1940

2) Lithuania (and Baltics) are tottally like Finland! 1:1 copy! Yes!

3) And just how many troops NATO have in Lithuania right now?


are you writing this down with a pad and paper or something? what does it matter?

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Postby Lytenburgh » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:37 pm

The balkens wrote:
Lytenburgh wrote:
So, how many?


Couple days, a week.


Do you know how much it took Red Army to take all Chechoslovakia and Prague in 1968?

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Postby Lytenburgh » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:38 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:How many minutes will it take General Lyt to invade Lithuania?


I'm not a general.

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Postby The balkens » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:39 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Couple days, a week.


Do you know how much it took Red Army to take all Chechoslovakia and Prague in 1968?


Against a civil uprising?

Totally not the same as going up against a military force, for fucks sake, lytt.

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Postby Lytenburgh » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:40 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Lytenburgh wrote:
Against what kind of opposing force?

One it is designed to defend against.
Likely, a Russian opposing force.


Wait a minute, - you are seriously thinking that Lithuanian regiments could "oppose" Russian army for "a few days"? Because, and I have to quote you:

it is designed to defend against [it]


What?!

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Postby Little Sealand » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:40 pm

Lytenburgh wrote:
Little Sealand wrote:Finland was able to hold off the Russian military during WW2 for an impressive amount of time. And 3000 per year, can add up pretty fast, and allow Russians to take less land while NATO responds. It's better to at least try to defend your home, a nation that isn't worth defending isn't worth living in.
NATO also has stationed troops in Lithuania, which is a big deterrent right now.


Oh, yes! Becasue:

1) Nothing imporved miltary-wise since 1940

2) Lithuania (and Baltics) are tottally like Finland! 1:1 copy! Yes!

3) And just how many troops NATO have in Lithuania right now?

1 and 2.) Sarcastic, just meant to say that a smaller military force has held off much larger forces before, it's not impossible.
3.) around a thousand? But I doubt Putin would start a war with NATO, invading Lithuania would almost undoubtly bring NATO intervention
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