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Postby Genivaria » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:13 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Yeah I find it amusing when some theists actually claim NK is somehow an atheist country.
I didn't realize believing your Dear Leader is a god is atheism now.

Yeah these 57 % of people will take their country down with them

You must've responded to the wrong post because that has nothing to do with NK.

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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:13 am

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Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Yeah these 57 % of people will take their country down with them

The poll was not of the entire US or even of the Republican party. So that is not an accurate statement.

It would reflect 57% of the poll voters
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:14 am

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Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Yeah these 57 % of people will take their country down with them

You must've responded to the wrong post because that has nothing to do with NK.

Yeah, I think I did oops
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:14 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:1st half of thread: Mostly respectful discussion on the intricacies of Constitutional Law and US politics.
2nd half of thread: "Fuck Republicans, they ebul and stupid."


I don't think all Republicans are evil and stupid.

But I do recognize there are some things I cannot trust America as a whole about. This is one of them.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:14 am

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Ifreann wrote:There is a difference between the country and the stated religion of the people of the country. There is more to a culture than the stated religion of the people of the country. How many countries in Europe have Christian majorities as large or larger than the US? And yet they are all different in their cultures both from the US and from each other.


I find it just as hard to believe that having won so great a victory as establishing Christianity as the official religion of the US that they would fail to capitalise upon it, whatever form that victory took.


A. I think you're making the mistake of assuming Christianity is a homogenous concept, it is not. And there are many facets of culture, religion being one of those facets. That facet of American Culture, is largely Christian. I don't get why this is such a hard concept to understand.

B. No, they would capitalize on it, what I'm saying is they wouldn't net any gains off it.

A: Actually, you would be the one making the mistake of assuming that christianity is a homogeneous concept with your declaration that the US is "culturally christian".
B: And you base this assumption on what?
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:15 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:The poll was not of the entire US or even of the Republican party. So that is not an accurate statement.

It would reflect 57% of the poll voters


primary voters. Depending on the location, primary voters aren't necessarily required to be affiliated with the party.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:15 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Yeah I find it amusing when some theists actually claim NK is somehow an atheist country.
I didn't realize believing your Dear Leader is a god is atheism now.

Yeah these 57 % of people will take their country down with them


57% of Republicans, which is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of people.
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Postby Knockturn Alley » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:15 am

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um, no not exactly...it would mean that public schools would have Bible learning compulsory, mandatory minimum attendance in churches and would directly and deliberately promote bias towards Christian groups in any office or position.


And as I pointed out, if the National Religion in question was Islam rather than some denomination of Christianity a whole lot of people would be screaming and running around like Godzilla decided to walk up onto Myrtle Beach.

The Islamic Litmus Test. You can measure the ethics of advancing a religious agenda by reading their reaction if it was Islam in the place of their favorite belief.


Agreed :p
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:15 am

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Dyakovo wrote: :rofl:
Sorry to not live up to your stupid stereotype, but I would not be in favor of banning religion.


Just the free exercise part.

Is this the "say stupid things thread"?
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:16 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:The poll was not of the entire US or even of the Republican party. So that is not an accurate statement.

It would reflect 57% of the poll voters

Which are not capapble of bringing a country down.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:16 am

Finium wrote:This poll was of 317 people...

And?
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Postby Desperate Measures » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:17 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:You didn't see me attempting to flamboyantly launch myself off of it?

So that's why there were shoe prints on my pizza...

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:18 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Dyakovo wrote: :rofl:
Sorry to not live up to your stupid stereotype, but I would not be in favor of banning religion.


Just the free exercise part.


I'm Christian and I think practices should remain separate and in private or in public as long as it doesn't disrupt other people.

Free exercise doesn't mean "I'll be all up in your face and fuck you if you don't like it".
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:18 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
A. I think you're making the mistake of assuming Christianity is a homogenous concept, it is not. And there are many facets of culture, religion being one of those facets. That facet of American Culture, is largely Christian. I don't get why this is such a hard concept to understand.

B. No, they would capitalize on it, what I'm saying is they wouldn't net any gains off it.

A: Actually, you would be the one making the mistake of assuming that christianity is a homogeneous concept with your declaration that the US is "culturally christian".
B: And you base this assumption on what?




God its like running in circles with you.

A. Not a mistake, the vast majority of America has always been some form of Christian, granted it's lower now than it's ever been, but even now it's still overwhelmingly Christian about 75%.

B. On the law, as has been reiterated going on double digits now.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:20 am

Western-Ukraine wrote:This is really some good news from Americas. It's great to see so many Republicans are defending the only true religion. A national religion is never troubling in any way. As long as it doesn't end up in lynching of minority religions it is all fine.


"The only true religion"

You should go to Iraq or Pakistan and say the same thing down there.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:20 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Just the free exercise part.

Is this the "say stupid things thread"?


You're certainly helping make it that.

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:21 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:This is really some good news from Americas. It's great to see so many Republicans are defending the only true religion. A national religion is never troubling in any way. As long as it doesn't end up in lynching of minority religions it is all fine.


"The only true religion"

You should go to Iraq or Pakistan and say the same thing down there.

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Soldati senza confini wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:This is really some good news from Americas. It's great to see so many Republicans are defending the only true religion. A national religion is never troubling in any way. As long as it doesn't end up in lynching of minority religions it is all fine.


"The only true religion"

You should go to Iraq or Pakistan and say the same thing down there.


Just because those who disagree with you will commit great violence against you, doesn't make you wrong.

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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:22 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:A: Actually, you would be the one making the mistake of assuming that christianity is a homogeneous concept with your declaration that the US is "culturally christian".
B: And you base this assumption on what?




God its like running in circles with you.

A. Not a mistake, the vast majority of America has always been some form of Christian, granted it's lower now than it's ever been, but even now it's still overwhelmingly Christian about 75%.

B. On the law, as has been reiterated going on double digits now.

A: Yes, a mistake. If christianity is not culturally homogeneous, then you can't really claim that the US is culturally christian.
B: You mean the law that would be changed by said amendment? That law? So, in other words, you're just pulling it out of your ass.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:22 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
"The only true religion"

You should go to Iraq or Pakistan and say the same thing down there.


Just because those who disagree with you will commit great violence against you, doesn't make you wrong.


The point.




















Your post.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:23 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Yeah these 57 % of people will take their country down with them


57% of Republicans, which is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of people.


It's not even a fraction of Republicans, but rather people who voted in a Republican Primary.


What makes me laugh is the idea that wanting things that aren't necessarily constitutional is somehow unique to the Republican Party.

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Postby Knockturn Alley » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:23 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
"The only true religion"

You should go to Iraq or Pakistan and say the same thing down there.


Just because those who disagree with you will commit great violence against you, doesn't make you wrong.


Sure it doesn't...and just because those people will get punished if they initiate violence, doesn't mean they're wrong either...now you see your stupid argument?
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Postby Roski » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:24 am

A light majority of a minority wants something?

Sorry guise, that's not quite how it fucking works.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:24 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Is this the "say stupid things thread"?


You're certainly helping make it that.

I bet you think that was pretty clever, as opposed to.just a pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact that your claim was completely false.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:24 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
57% of Republicans, which is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of people.


It's not even a fraction of Republicans, but rather people who voted in a Republican Primary.


What makes me laugh is the idea that wanting things that aren't necessarily constitutional is somehow unique to the Republican Party.

who said that?
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