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Glorious KASSRD
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Postby Glorious KASSRD » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:25 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
*Sigh.*

When we say British claims on the antartic are not evidence of a British conspiracy to conquer the universe and shit in everybodies cheerios, that does not mean we are supporting the antartic claims.
Find someone who supported them.
You've made a claim, source it. Go find the quote.


No, I never said that all i am saying is that the British will exploit those resources underneath after 2060, they need to be stopped

Gve one piece of evidence the British are planning on exploiting the resources of Antarctica at any point in time.

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Postby Calimera II » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:25 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Fuck it.
HERCULEAN RE-RAILING TIME.

I think the Argentinians do themselves a disservice by banging on about their claims to the falklands. It's clearly used by their government to distract them from pressing domestic issues.
By playing into this constantly, they do themselves more damage economically and socially than the capture of the Islands could ever justify, even if they had a legitimate claim.


And I disagree with you because the 50 pesos bill was announced last year when the country was in better shape.

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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:26 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Oh man, fresh water, what an INCREDIBLY rare and expensive resource that is ))))


Oil

are you telling me that you believe it is economically feasible and actually safe to drill Antarctica for a few drops of oil?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:26 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Manisdog turned up.
When was it going to not derail?

Don't fucking lie, I never derailed thread, you guys brought India like fucking 50 times in this whole topic, Now you should have the common decency to admit it that was your side of the argument which did that

you need to stop making threads like these

Threads that dare mention the United Kingdom, or threads that allow you to respond?
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Postby Jetan » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:26 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Manisdog turned up.
When was it going to not derail?

Don't fucking lie, I never derailed thread, you guys brought India like fucking 50 times in this whole topic, Now you should have the common decency to admit it that was your side of the argument which did that

you need to stop making threads like these

Stop trying to censor opinions you disagree with.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:27 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Fuck it.
HERCULEAN RE-RAILING TIME.

I think the Argentinians do themselves a disservice by banging on about their claims to the falklands. It's clearly used by their government to distract them from pressing domestic issues.
By playing into this constantly, they do themselves more damage economically and socially than the capture of the Islands could ever justify, even if they had a legitimate claim.


And I disagree with you because the 50 pesos bill was announced last year when the country was in better shape.


Better shape is still pretty bad.
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Postby Kaztropol » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:27 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... now-dragon

http://www.asoc.org/component/content/a ... c-oil-myth

two conflicting views on the possibilities or otherwise of Vast Resources Ripe For Exploiting in Antarctica.

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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:27 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Don't fucking lie, I never derailed thread, you guys brought India like fucking 50 times in this whole topic, Now you should have the common decency to admit it that was your side of the argument which did that

you need to stop making threads like these

Your presence derails threads through your bizarre logic trains rightly causing other posters' minds to bend.

You brought the topic out, your side does it and then you guys don't own up to it, I refused to answer your stupid queries on India but then you eyed my country that is the only time i corrected you people, for I will not stand you eyeing my country at any cost, never shall you do it
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:27 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Fuck it.
HERCULEAN RE-RAILING TIME.

I think the Argentinians do themselves a disservice by banging on about their claims to the falklands. It's clearly used by their government to distract them from pressing domestic issues.
By playing into this constantly, they do themselves more damage economically and socially than the capture of the Islands could ever justify, even if they had a legitimate claim.


Also, as I've pointed out before, just before the war the British government was keen to hand over the island to Argentina. The only stumbling block was the islanders desire to remain a part of Britain. If Argentina had devoted its efforts to winning over the population of the islands rather than invading and then constantly insulting them, they'd probably be in a far better bargaining position.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jun/ ... lands.past

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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:27 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Oh man, fresh water, what an INCREDIBLY rare and expensive resource that is ))))

Give it a couple decades.

You know, when global population is suggested to almost double.

that's none of my concern, because the populations of 1st world nations are stagnating at best.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:28 pm

Jetan wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Don't fucking lie, I never derailed thread, you guys brought India like fucking 50 times in this whole topic, Now you should have the common decency to admit it that was your side of the argument which did that

you need to stop making threads like these

Stop trying to censor opinions you disagree with.

Stop trying to censor my opinions too
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:28 pm

Jetan wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Don't fucking lie, I never derailed thread, you guys brought India like fucking 50 times in this whole topic, Now you should have the common decency to admit it that was your side of the argument which did that

you need to stop making threads like these

Stop trying to censor opinions you disagree with.

Or try to become a moderator of this forum. Surely your help would be appreciated.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:29 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Fuck it.
HERCULEAN RE-RAILING TIME.

I think the Argentinians do themselves a disservice by banging on about their claims to the falklands. It's clearly used by their government to distract them from pressing domestic issues.
By playing into this constantly, they do themselves more damage economically and socially than the capture of the Islands could ever justify, even if they had a legitimate claim.


Also, as I've pointed out before, just before the war the British government was keen to hand over the island to Argentina. The only stumbling block was the islanders desire to remain a part of Britain. If Argentina had devoted its efforts to winning over the population of the islands rather than invading and then constantly insulting them, they'd probably be in a far better bargaining position.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jun/ ... lands.past


Yeh. It's still a route they could take. They won't though.
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:29 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Very true (about that this thread is probably going to be locked).


In fairness, it's a thread about news almost a year old and a subject I'm pretty sure has been done before. I'm surprised it lasted this long...


Me too. The news is from April last year, the president just took 10 minutes (some days ago) to annouce that the 50 pesos bill is going to circulate soon.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:29 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Give it a couple decades.

You know, when global population is suggested to almost double.

that's none of my concern, because the populations of 1st world nations are stagnating at best.

So, you're confused and an awful person.
I haven't learnt anything here.
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Postby Camelza » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:29 pm

The Falklands are a healthy self-governed democracy, where its people decide regarding their small nation's future through elections, as such they've decided they want to remain a part of Britain and continue to do so up to this very day. The mere existence of Falklanders and their clear decision regarding the matter is the reason that Argentina's claim is against human rights and international law.
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:31 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
And I disagree with you because the 50 pesos bill was announced last year when the country was in better shape.


Better shape is still pretty bad.


I wouldn't say pretty bad though. The economic slowdown is mainly caused by the slowdown of big neighbor Brazil.

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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:31 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Jetan wrote:Stop trying to censor opinions you disagree with.

Or try to become a moderator of this forum. Surely your help would be appreciated.


I am not being a moderator, I am not going to participate in discussions that would being me trouble, the other side derailed this argument ages ago,
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:31 pm

"We're going to mark the invasion of a territory we hold NO reasonable claim to... which resulted in a war... we lost, badly."

Just my view, really.

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Postby Jetan » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:31 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Jetan wrote:Stop trying to censor opinions you disagree with.

Or try to become a moderator of this forum. Surely your help would be appreciated.

Indeed.
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Postby Kaztropol » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:32 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea still hasn't provided an answer to the questions of:

whether the people born in Antarctica have a right to live there.

whether the Falkland Islanders should be deported.

whether any population that moved due to actions of British monarchs or prime ministers, should be moved back.


these questions are important, and relevant to the status of the islands.

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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:33 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:that's none of my concern, because the populations of 1st world nations are stagnating at best.

So, you're confused and an awful person.
I haven't learnt anything here.

Confused? I know exactly what my position is. Awful person, maybe, but being nice doesn't make empires.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:33 pm

Camelza wrote:The Falklands are a healthy self-governed democracy, where its people decide regarding their small nation's future through elections, as such they've decided they want to remain a part of Britain and continue to do so up to this very day. The mere existence of Falklanders and their clear decision regarding the matter is the reason that Argentina's claim is against human rights and international law.
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CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:33 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So, you're confused and an awful person.
I haven't learnt anything here.

Confused? I know exactly what my position is. Awful person, maybe, but being nice doesn't make empires.

Haven't you spent this thread railing against my country's imperial past?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:34 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Better shape is still pretty bad.


I wouldn't say pretty bad though. The economic slowdown is mainly caused by the slowdown of big neighbor Brazil.


Yeh but they are Iberians, so you can't pick on them to distract people.
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