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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:01 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The actual article in the OP. That you apparently didn't read. Or else you would know that no one actually is forcing their child to be gay.


I read a different source on a different website, I had assumed that they would've covered the same thing with similar context.

If this source you read actually said that she's forcing her daughter to be gay, then your source is utter shit.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:02 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
I read a different source on a different website, I had assumed that they would've covered the same thing with similar context.

A different source? This was a editorial on a personal story.

I think he means that he read a different source that was ABOUT this op-ed. I mean, they do exist. And I wouldn't be surprised if one of them went on a tangent about "DEM EBIL GAYS POISONING TEH CHILDRUN!"
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:02 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The actual article in the OP. That you apparently didn't read. Or else you would know that no one actually is forcing their child to be gay.


I read a different source on a different website, I had assumed that they would've covered the same thing with similar context.


Which source on which website? I could use a good laugh.

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Postby Nuwe Suid Afrika » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:07 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
I read a different source on a different website, I had assumed that they would've covered the same thing with similar context.

If this source you read actually said that she's forcing her daughter to be gay, then your source is utter shit.

I didn't write it. Although, from the start of this source, just as the title states, it does say "I'm gay, so my child must be as well.".


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Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
I read a different source on a different website, I had assumed that they would've covered the same thing with similar context.


Which source on which website? I could use a good laugh.

I found it on an image board, I probably won't be able to find it now. I'll telegram you if I can find it again.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:07 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:If this source you read actually said that she's forcing her daughter to be gay, then your source is utter shit.

I didn't write it. Although, from the start of this source, just as the title states, it does say "I'm gay, so my child must be as well.".

No it doesn't.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:07 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:A different source? This was a editorial on a personal story.

I think he means that he read a different source that was ABOUT this op-ed. I mean, they do exist. And I wouldn't be surprised if one of them went on a tangent about "DEM EBIL GAYS POISONING TEH CHILDRUN!"

There's a career for this thread's OP...
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Postby Nuwe Suid Afrika » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:10 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:I didn't write it. Although, from the start of this source, just as the title states, it does say "I'm gay, so my child must be as well.".

No it doesn't.

It was something around those lines.

This is it though. "I’m gay. And I want my kid to be gay, too."


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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:12 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No it doesn't.

It was something around those lines.

No it wasn't.
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:This is it though. "I’m gay. And I want my kid to be gay, too."

Right, and that's nowhere close to "I'm gay, so my child must be as well." Any indication otherwise demonstrates either a failure to understand the English language or that you're looking for an excuse to complain about nothing.
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Postby Russels Orbiting Teapot » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:13 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:It was something around those lines.

This is it though. "I’m gay. And I want my kid to be gay, too."

That sounds like the title of the source article, which was clearly selected to get people upset enough to click the link and find out what the author really meant by that.

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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:33 pm

Russels Orbiting Teapot wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:It was something around those lines.

This is it though. "I’m gay. And I want my kid to be gay, too."

That sounds like the title of the source article, which was clearly selected to get people upset enough to click the link and find out what the author really meant by that.

Articles are for idiots that can't make up their own story based on the headline.
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Postby Othelos » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:34 pm

Children should be able to develop their own sexual identity, straight or gay, or anything in between.
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Postby Russels Orbiting Teapot » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:35 pm

Othelos wrote:Children should be able to develop their own sexual identity, straight or gay, or anything in between.

Of course they should, and the person who wrote this article would agree with you.

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Postby Vashtanaraada » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:37 pm

forcing things never works

rebellion is such a powerful force within youth
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Postby A Colony Of Canadas » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:38 pm

Forcing children to be something they don't want to is crazy. They can choose for themselves.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:39 pm

Vashtanaraada wrote:forcing things never works

rebellion is such a powerful force within youth

Children should be forced to be cats. That's the only way we'll solve this problem.
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Postby Vashtanaraada » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:39 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Vashtanaraada wrote:forcing things never works

rebellion is such a powerful force within youth

Children should be forced to be cats. That's the only way we'll solve this problem.


even though I love cats, teaching youth to be pussies is a bit silly
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:41 pm

Vashtanaraada wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:Children should be forced to be cats. That's the only way we'll solve this problem.


even though I love cats, teaching youth to be pussies is a bit silly

It's like super silly. Yes. But necessary.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:42 pm

A Colony Of Canadas wrote:Forcing children to be something they don't want to is crazy. They can choose for themselves.


Like clean. Children should never be forced to bathe, they can decide for themselves.

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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:45 pm

Are we absolutely certain this is legit? It plays far too easily into the Religious Right's "gay agenda" B.S.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:45 pm

Maineiacs wrote:Are we absolutely certain this is legit? It plays far too easily into the Religious Right's "gay agenda" B.S.

What do you mean by "this"? The actual article, or the caricature created by the OP?
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Postby Russels Orbiting Teapot » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:46 pm

Maineiacs wrote:Are we absolutely certain this is legit? It plays far too easily into the Religious Right's "gay agenda" B.S.


Did you read the article?

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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:47 pm

Maineiacs wrote:Are we absolutely certain this is legit? It plays far too easily into the Religious Right's "gay agenda" B.S.

It also plays into the hands of Cat Fancy America. You'd know that if you read the article.
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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:48 pm

Russels Orbiting Teapot wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:Are we absolutely certain this is legit? It plays far too easily into the Religious Right's "gay agenda" B.S.


Did you read the article?



Yes, and it's going to be used, whatever the mother's intent, as supposed proof of the "Gay Agenda" to turn all children gay.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:49 pm

Russels Orbiting Teapot wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:It was something around those lines.

This is it though. "I’m gay. And I want my kid to be gay, too."

That sounds like the title of the source article, which was clearly selected to get people upset enough to click the link and find out what the author really meant by that.

No, the body of the article says it as well.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:49 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Russels Orbiting Teapot wrote:
Did you read the article?



Yes, and it's going to be used, whatever the mother's intent, as supposed proof of the "Gay Agenda" to turn all children gay.

And?
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