I'm gay, so my child must be as well.

[New Stephania]

By forcing homosexuality on her and telling her how much better her life would be.

I have had my complaints but you're just going way off the deep end, she's doing no such thing. Read the article.

[Desperate Measures]

Good thing she is, then?

By forcing homosexuality on her and telling her how much better her life would be.

She is conditioning her kid.

Where is this forced homosexuality? Point out a quote?

[Dakini]

By forcing homosexuality on her and telling her how much better her life would be.

She is conditioning her kid.

Where is this forced homosexuality? Point out a quote?

It's from the article in their mind.

[Iwassoclose]

By forcing homosexuality on her and telling her how much better her life would be.

I have had my complaints but you're just going way off the deep end, she's doing no such thing. Read the article.

Its right in the paper

It’s more widely acceptable to be gay in America today, but that’s not the same as being desirable. In my house, though, it is.

[Wallenburg]

The way the OP words the topic suggests that the mother is doing everything she can to passively lead her child to be gay.
She should not force her child to be gay. That's just as bad as demanding they be straight. Sexual preference or orientation should not be a basis for discrimination, on whatever side of the discussion.

[Madiganistan]

The circle jerk...

You must be new around here.

There's certainly disdain among the oh-so-oppressed communities of the self-described progressive left against demographically normative cultural groups that twists into ironic hatred of those normative groups.. in fact, there's even a digital neighborhood where people defined by this tendency coalesce.

This isn't an example of that. In fact, the linked article actually follows quite a lovely a narrative arc that describes how Sally Kohn came to the realization that she was being a bit of a hypocrite in her parental bias.

Granted, progressives commentating on this piece across the intertoobs seem to have missed that point just as thoroughly as conservatives. But that doesn't seem to be what you or OP are upset about.

[Iwassoclose]

By forcing homosexuality on her and telling her how much better her life would be.

She is conditioning her kid.

Where is this forced homosexuality? Point out a quote?

When my daughter plays house with her stuffed koala bears as the mom and dad, we gently remind her that they could be a dad and dad. Sometimes she changes her narrative. Sometimes she doesn’t. It’s her choice.

Why?

[Desperate Measures]

I have had my complaints but you're just going way off the deep end, she's doing no such thing. Read the article.

Its right in the paper

It’s more widely acceptable to be gay in America today, but that’s not the same as being desirable. In my house, though, it is.

How is this forcing homosexuality??? I don't know if you understood the question I asked.

And then right there in the article, "All I ultimately care about is that she has the choice and that whatever choice she makes is enthusiastically embraced and celebrated." I mean.... the pure indoctrination!!! Gasp.

[Dakini]

I have had my complaints but you're just going way off the deep end, she's doing no such thing. Read the article.

Its right in the paper

It’s more widely acceptable to be gay in America today, but that’s not the same as being desirable. In my house, though, it is.

1. You said "forcing homosexuality on her". Where's that in the article?
2. Saying something is desirable is not the same as saying "your life will be better this way". Even if it were, she's still allowing her kid to do her own thing.

So basically, you have failed to contradict the statement you set out to contradict, which was:

bad, she should let the girl make her own choices regarding her sexuality.

Good thing she is, then?

Nice try, please learn how to debate.

[Fartsniffage]

I have had my complaints but you're just going way off the deep end, she's doing no such thing. Read the article.

Its right in the paper

It’s more widely acceptable to be gay in America today, but that’s not the same as being desirable. In my house, though, it is.

My friend wrote back with a slew of helpful advice, ending with a punch to my gut: “Bet it wouldn’t bother you so much if her crush was on a girl.”

She was right. I’m a slightly overbearing pro-gay gay mom. But I’m going to support my daughter, whatever choices she makes.

You might have read the article, but I don't think you made it all the way to the end. Or maybe you just didn't understand the point of the article.

[Infected Mushroom]

We can't criticise how she chooses to raise her own child.

To do so would be homophobic.

[Iwassoclose]

Its right in the paper

How is this forcing homosexuality??? I don't know if you understood the question I asked.

And then right there in the article, "All I ultimately care about is that she has the choice and that whatever choice she makes is enthusiastically embraced and celebrated." I mean.... the pure indoctrination!!! Gasp.

Read the quote that is addressed to your post above.

[Ifreann]

If I'm not very much mistaken I also detect a hint of hypocrisy. I dare say that this Christainville person is a Christian. I wonder what they have to say about the Christian tradition of inducting one's children into the Christian religion when they are still newborns. My money's on him not having a problem with it.


I'll allow it.

I am a Christian, and I was never inducted into the church. First off, it works every salvation for every man, so you can be introduced to something day and night and never personally except it. So, I was never inducted to it, I haven't been to a church in ages, but I still keep my faith, so its lots of us that were never inducted to this as babies, and are a part of it for the record.

Were you not baptised? That is what I am referring to.

I would love to know how these 2 tie into each other. Because parents forced stuff on their kids? Because parents want things for their kids?

It's pretty simple. You' clearly have a problem with the idea of a child being made to be gay. I'm wondering if you have a problem with even younger children being made to be Christian.

At lest our views didn't get political and take over the world to win elections.

I'll say again that this is not a matter of conservative vs liberal, nor about Christian vs non-Christian.

[Iwassoclose]

Its right in the paper

My friend wrote back with a slew of helpful advice, ending with a punch to my gut: “Bet it wouldn’t bother you so much if her crush was on a girl.”

She was right. I’m a slightly overbearing pro-gay gay mom. But I’m going to support my daughter, whatever choices she makes.

You might have read the article, but I don't think you made it all the way to the end. Or maybe you just didn't understand the point of the article.

Yes, I will support her in whatever decisions she makes but I am going to tell her whats desirable first...

[Wallenburg]

I found a gay walrus in my nation's waters. Where are its rights?

[New Stephania]

I have had my complaints but you're just going way off the deep end, she's doing no such thing. Read the article.

Its right in the paper

It’s more widely acceptable to be gay in America today, but that’s not the same as being desirable. In my house, though, it is.

I did forget about that quote, but what she meant is open to interpretation without the author fleshing it out. If she means she teaches her child being straight is undesirable then I am with you, if she means she teaches her child being gay or straight is just fine then it's not the same thing you are suggesting.

[NeoColumbia]

Inb4 Saying gays will try to make their "children" gay is nonsensical homophobia.

Reminds me of those jewish lesbians in california that are injecting their adopted son with female hormones.

[Dakini]

Where is this forced homosexuality? Point out a quote?

When my daughter plays house with her stuffed koala bears as the mom and dad, we gently remind her that they could be a dad and dad. Sometimes she changes her narrative. Sometimes she doesn’t. It’s her choice.

Why?

So attempting to counteract society's overwhelming heteronormativity is forcing homosexuality? Are 90+% of books, movies etc forcing heterosexuality by showing opposite-sex couples?

[Desperate Measures]

How is this forcing homosexuality??? I don't know if you understood the question I asked.

And then right there in the article, "All I ultimately care about is that she has the choice and that whatever choice she makes is enthusiastically embraced and celebrated." I mean.... the pure indoctrination!!! Gasp.

Read the quote that is addressed to your post above.

I did. I read it. I even asked a question about it!

[Iwassoclose]

1. You said "forcing homosexuality on her". Where's that in the article?

Read the post that I actually addressed first before jumping the gun.

[Fartsniffage]

You might have read the article, but I don't think you made it all the way to the end. Or maybe you just didn't understand the point of the article.

Yes, I will support her in whatever decisions she makes but I am going to tell her whats desirable first...

Yep, you didn't understand the point of the article.

[Madiganistan]

For every post of constructive conversation in this thread, there's three posts in which someone tells someone else to "read the article."

[Dakini]

You might have read the article, but I don't think you made it all the way to the end. Or maybe you just didn't understand the point of the article.

Yes, I will support her in whatever decisions she makes but I am going to tell her whats desirable first...

*shrug* Parents generally consider it desirable that their children go on to be financially successful. That doesn't mean that they don't support their children in their decisions to become artists.

I'm going to echo the "you didn't understand the point of the article" comment because you clearly didn't.

[Ragnarum]

The title of the article is nothing but clickbait, and there is nothing particularly unusual or insightful or interesting written in it, trust me. Just more cushy and cliched bullshit.

[Mavorpen]

You're going to have to do better than misrepresenting articles in order to peddle this bullshit narrative that liberals are hipocrites with respect to labelling certain things as homophobic.