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Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:37 pm**

Yeah, Apartheid was basically "reverse racism", but it no longer exists, nor does any other form of Minority dominating the Majority; to my knowledge of course.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:37 pm**

Thermodolia wrote:
Mucius Scaevola wrote:I am not racist. I have several African-American friends.

I did not know that you supported "White Power", as they say. Only they seem to support reverse racism.

Nowhere does he say that he supports reverse racism.

He's laying out bait and hoping to get a bite so someone will get a warning/ban.

That's just the strawman he created.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:38 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:
Romalae wrote:That is the oldest excuse in the book.

So is the "victim" card.

What?

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:38 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:Goodness, since when has NSG taken the conservative part of an issue?

Yes, reverse racism cannot exist, but it is because blacks cannot discriminate against whites.

lol

I guess blacks have magical powers or whites are just cartoonishly evil.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:39 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:
Scomagia wrote:So you support racial discrimination. You're a racist.

I am not racist. I have several African-American friends.

Nobody buys that.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:39 pm**

I think I should form a chart:

In terms of social vanity:

=========White

Black =========

Therefore, if a black person thinks that a white person is inferior, then the white person's vanity is then equal to the black person. Thus, the black person cannot be racist, based on your standards, unless he is very racist or if the white man is not vain.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:39 pm**

Napkiraly wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:'Reverse racism' by the minority against the majority is impossible.

However, prejudice and discrimination is definitely possible. But racism is not.

Of course it is. A black person thinking white people are inferior is just as racist as a white person thinking black people are inferior.

Racism is about power; racism is institutionalized. A black person thinking a white person is inferior is prejudice - not institutional racism. The white person isn't seen by society as inferior, doesn't have to try twice as hard to get half the recognition, etc.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:39 pm**

Anyone can be bigoted toward anyone. However, the impact of anti-white bigotry is not a fraction as devastating nor is it institutionalized.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:40 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:Goodness, since when has NSG taken the conservative part of an issue?

Yes, reverse racism cannot exist, but it is because blacks cannot discriminate against whites.

The Black Panthers

Yes, they bloody well can.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:40 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Of course they can.

Racism is racism. If you think another race is inferior, should be treated differently, etc. you're a racist. It doesn't matter if the racist belongs to a minority and his/her racist views are directed towards the majority or plurality.

But black people do not think that whites are inferior. Often, they seek equality and tend to bring reality to racist whites, a reality that they cannot handle. Racism is about perspective, but racism is internal and institutional. Racism is not an action!

Thats a blanket statement and totally untrue. I've been treated differently on the job because I was the only white employee of a dollar store in a majority black town. Isn't it racism when a black customer calls me a cracker and refuses to let me check her out based on skin color alone?

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:41 pm**

Page wrote:Anyone can be bigoted toward anyone. However, the impact of anti-white bigotry is not a fraction as devastating nor is it institutionalized.

Atlanticatia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Of course it is. A black person thinking white people are inferior is just as racist as a white person thinking black people are inferior.

Racism is about power; racism is institutionalized. A black person thinking a white person is inferior is prejudice - not institutional racism. The white person isn't seen by society as inferior, doesn't have to try twice as hard to get half the recognition, etc.

Nice to see some sensible people.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:41 pm**

Mavorpen wrote:"Reverse racism" is a stupid term. Racism is racism.

Says it like it is. There is really no debate. I mean, my God, if we need some new term to wrap the people's head around the idea of discrimination against Europeans, then... :eyebrow:

...there really is no hope for America.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:41 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Of course they can.

Racism is racism. If you think another race is inferior, should be treated differently, etc. you're a racist. It doesn't matter if the racist belongs to a minority and his/her racist views are directed towards the majority or plurality.

But black people do not think that whites are inferior

Horseshit, there are certainly black people who do or did think that. The founder of the Nation of Islam taught that white people were created by a mad scientist and are a race of devils. Even Malcolm X, before his conversion, believed that black people were genetically dominant.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:41 pm**

Atlanticatia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Of course it is. A black person thinking white people are inferior is just as racist as a white person thinking black people are inferior.

Racism is about power; racism is institutionalized. A black person thinking a white person is inferior is prejudice - not institutional racism. The white person isn't seen by society as inferior, doesn't have to try twice as hard to get half the recognition, etc.

No it's not.

Any form of disliking/hate of people based on their skin color/cultural heritage is racism.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:42 pm**

New haven america wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Nowhere does he say that he supports reverse racism.

He's laying out bait and hoping to get a bite so someone will get a warning/ban.

That's just the strawman he created.

I picked up on that after I posted it

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:42 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:I think I should form a chart:

In terms of social vanity:

=========White

Black =========

Therefore, if a black person thinks that a white person is inferior, then the white person's vanity is then equal to the black person. Thus, the black person cannot be racist, based on your standards, unless he is very racist or if the white man is not vain.

Can you explain that in RNA? I don't understand what you're trying to say. :blink:

What does vanity have to do with anything?

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:42 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:I think I should form a chart:

In terms of social vanity:

=========White

Black =========

Therefore, if a black person thinks that a white person is inferior, then the white person's vanity is then equal to the black person. Thus, the black person cannot be racist, based on your standards, unless he is very racist or if the white man is not vain.

Are you saying/implying that whites are superior?

That is pretty racist...

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:42 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:I think I should form a chart:

In terms of social vanity:

=========White

Black =========

Therefore, if a black person thinks that a white person is inferior, then the white person's vanity is then equal to the black person. Thus, the black person cannot be racist, based on your standards, unless he is very racist or if the white man is not vain.

And your little "chart" here applies to anything outside your head……… how?

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:43 pm**

Mucius Scaevola wrote:
Page wrote:Anyone can be bigoted toward anyone. However, the impact of anti-white bigotry is not a fraction as devastating nor is it institutionalized.
Atlanticatia wrote:
Racism is about power; racism is institutionalized. A black person thinking a white person is inferior is prejudice - not institutional racism. The white person isn't seen by society as inferior, doesn't have to try twice as hard to get half the recognition, etc.

Nice to see some sensible people.

I sense a bit of a persecution complex underlying your posts. Just because people have similar viewpoints does not make them more "sensible" than those who disagree with them.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:44 pm**

Atlanticatia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Of course it is. A black person thinking white people are inferior is just as racist as a white person thinking black people are inferior.

Racism is about power; racism is institutionalized. A black person thinking a white person is inferior is prejudice - not institutional racism. The white person isn't seen by society as inferior, doesn't have to try twice as hard to get half the recognition, etc.

There is a difference between institutionalised racism and just racism. The former is racism, the latter is institutionalised racism. A black person thinking white people are inferior, is still a racist even if the society he lives in in skewered towards a white persons favour.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:45 pm**

Yes, reverse racism happens, and yes, it's bad, but minorities generally lack the institutional power to enforce their will, and so reverse racism isn't as big a problem as conventional racism.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:45 pm**

New Carloso wrote:Yeah, Apartheid was basically "reverse racism", but it no longer exists, nor does any other form of Minority dominating the Majority; to my knowledge of course.

Under Apartheid, black Africans were the minority. In sociological terms, which are what you use to discuss racism, a Majority group isn't necessarily a numerical majority. Majority refers to power over the society as a whole, not numbers.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:47 pm**

Atlanticatia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Of course it is. A black person thinking white people are inferior is just as racist as a white person thinking black people are inferior.

Racism is about power; racism is institutionalized. A black person thinking a white person is inferior is prejudice - not institutional racism. The white person isn't seen by society as inferior, doesn't have to try twice as hard to get half the recognition, etc.

There is no official authority that defines what is correct English, so correct English is defined by common usage. Racism is commonly used to mean "racial prejudice" without any requirement that it fits into your paradigm of dominant or marginalized groups, institutional power structures, etc.

It was hard enough for me to learn English when it is so different from RNA. Please do not make it harder by redefining words.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:47 pm**

Scomagia wrote:
New Carloso wrote:Yeah, Apartheid was basically "reverse racism", but it no longer exists, nor does any other form of Minority dominating the Majority; to my knowledge of course.

Under Apartheid, black Africans were the minority. In sociological terms, which are what you use to discuss racism, a Majority group isn't necessarily a numerical majority. Majority refers to power over the society as a whole, not numbers.

To support this point: women are often referred to as 'The Largest Minority'.

Well, at least in my Sociology of Gender textbook.

Posted: **Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:47 pm**

Napkiraly wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:
Racism is about power; racism is institutionalized. A black person thinking a white person is inferior is prejudice - not institutional racism. The white person isn't seen by society as inferior, doesn't have to try twice as hard to get half the recognition, etc.

There is a difference between institutionalised racism and just racism. The former is racism, the latter is institutionalised racism. A black person thinking white people are inferior, is still a racist even if the society he lives in in skewered towards a white persons favour.

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