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Postby San france » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:26 pm

nevermind, it's something to do with time zones

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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:27 pm

San france wrote:nevermind, it's something to do with time twilight zones

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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:29 pm

Woah, this thread. 2edgy5me.

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with a white pride parade, might not agree with it because it seems pretty pointless but it's not really hurting anyone.
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Postby San france » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:32 pm

It's kinda like straight pride, doesn't make sense, people will get mad about it or see it as offensive but if people wnt to do it, I don't see why not.

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You're wrong! But good try though.

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Agreed, Feminism nowadays isn't needed, they can vote and work and everything, nowadays all they do is hate men and go on about gay marriage.


It must be nice to be an expert on what women do and do not need.


Yes it is actually, sexism if it is around nowadays is scarce, I have never seen any in the UK, however, in the middle east.... I could write a whole series of books on the subject
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:51 pm

The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
It must be nice to be an expert on what women do and do not need.


Yes it is actually, sexism if it is around nowadays is scarce, I have never seen any in the UK, however, in the middle east.... I could write a whole series of books on the subject


Right.

The fact that you do not see something does not mean that it does not exist. It simply means that you do not personally experience it, or see it for what it is.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:51 pm

The only reason these other pride movements have risen up is in defiance of an overwhelming social narrative of inferiority for being a part of these groups.

So tell me when whites are oppressed by the majority, and then we'll talk white pride.
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Postby Norstal » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:57 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:The only reason these other pride movements have risen up is in defiance of an overwhelming social narrative of inferiority for being a part of these groups.

So tell me when whites are oppressed by the majority, and then we'll talk white pride.

Whites are being oppressed in Zimbabwe! So what we have to do is create a white pride organization here in America.
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Postby The United Kingdoms of Austinarya » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:58 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote:You said that blacks are treated like they were 200 years ago when they were enslaved and segregated, this is bullshit, you need to do your history homework, slavery doesn't exist anymore, the US had a massive civil war and afterwards slavery was banned, as for segregation, the civil rights movement managed to get equal rights, so they are equal by law and you are the one who needs to do their history as you still seem to think that they are segregated and enslaved, which is exactly what you were saying as you said they are treated in the same way they were treated 200 or 60 years ago.

You REALLY need to actually read his post again, because basic comprehension of the English language demonstrates that this isn't even close to what he said.

Devvo Mate wrote:Has it not occurred to you that things which happened 200 or 60 years ago, and indeed are still happening now, are part of the reason why black people in America are disproportionately poor and disadvantaged?

He did NOT say that we're treated the same as we were 200 or 60 years ago. He said that things that happened 200 or 60 years ago AND are still happening now are part of the reason why we're disadvantaged. In other words, he didn't say we are treated the same, he only said that there are certain things that existed 200 or 60 years ago and STILL persist today, NOT that all of them (slavery, Jim Crow, etc.) do.

By the way, segregation still exists. It just isn't de jure, it's de facto.
The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote:You are against white people being proud of their heritage but you don't say anything against black pride, asian pride, gay pride ect. you accept them but want to censor white pride and deny them free speech. It may be Britain First "bollocks" but it's better than the filthy lies that AntiFa and UAF spew.

You don't know what free speech is, do you?


Things that were happening 200 years ago happen today, If you didn't mean to say that slavery didn't exist then choose your words more carefully as you basically hinted that with that bullshit statement. You're not disadvantaged, you are equal by law.

Your idea of free speech is that you can say what you like but if anyone counters it then it is an outrage. Your too worried about offending people, well if they don't like what I have to say then they can just not listen as far as I'm concerned. If you had a legitimate argument then I would listen but as usual you are doing the cowardly liberal tactic of screaming "racist" in hopes that it will put me off, it isn't working and you're making a c*** out of yourself, although you are a liberal so it's not hard for you to do that.
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Postby Orvius » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:02 pm

Why am I even reading this thread?

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:04 pm

The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote:Your idea of free speech is that you can say what you like but if anyone counters it then it is an outrage.

No, that would be yours. Here's how something like this goes down:

1. You want to have a white pride organization in a university
2. People protest this action which leads the university to reject you
3. You whine that you're being censored and that free speech is being violated.

If people are outraged by something you say, that's indeed free speech. People have every right to be outraged and express that. It isn't censorship if the university or the relevant entity agrees with them.
The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote: Your too worried about offending people, well if they don't like what I have to say then they can just not listen as far as I'm concerned.

Or, they can express their outrage, as they have a right to do via free speech.
The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote: If you had a legitimate argument then I would listen but as usual you are doing the cowardly liberal tactic of screaming "racist" in hopes that it will put me off, it isn't working and you're making a c*** out of yourself, although you are a liberal so it's not hard for you to do that.

It's not cowardly to call things that are racist, racist. It's being honest.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:39 pm

TO THE OP: First off - we aren't here to entertain you. If you are willing to put a topic out there, be willing to discuss it with other players a bit. If not, feel free to keep it to yourself. This 'not a big writer' excuse ain't gonna fly. You want to read? Go, sit back, and read. No need to post and run.

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We all have the ability to think and reason and create. History is chock full of examples that span the globe, and the list just keeps growing faster as our overal technological ability increases. The fact that some utilize those abilities more than others (and these are not limited by race, creed, religion, etc mind), is an individual issue. Not a racial one. Once you've been able to sit down face to face with God and can state this whole presumption of yours is The Truth without any shadow of doubt, I'll be happy to treat it as fact. Until that time, welcome to the wonderful world of 'in your opinion' and 'faith is fantastic'. Try to take care that it ends where other's begins. A little reminder that this 'love' you state as the White Boon to Mankind has been historically laden with a whole lotta hate, too. And is to this day. The "Obama is a fake" argument has gotten laughably old too.

You probably need to lay off the trolling as well. I mean, 'unholy faiths' in regards to Judaism & 'everyone else' kinda trips over the line there. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=330209&p=23451576#p23451576

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The United Kingdoms of Austinarya: First off, the flaming is not ok. There's been racial nastiness all around the world, from all manner of people and groups and ideologies, and such. None of it is pleasant. None of it is justified. And all of it is rather horrifying, when all's said and done. For every example of 'this group has done bad things' another can provide examples of the groups you prefer as having done similar. No group is infallible, hate to break it to you. Arguments of 'who is the worst' rarely go anywhere good. Be as proud as you like of the positive things that members of your preferred race have accomplished. Might not be a bad idea to remember that others have done the same who aren't in that preferred category.

And this here, really crossed lines. It has been since last September, early on, since you've managed to rack up a warning or ban, or this would be your last with this nation. As it stands, I am going to implement a *** 7 day ban *** which goes for any and all nations you may control, mind - in the hopes that this LAST CHANCE will get you to reconsider your method of posting, and perhaps, to sit back and read the rules. If not, the next time you cross the line, your nation will most likely be deleted. If you continue in the same manner with another nation, you will likely end up disinvited to participate on the site at all. We call that Delete on Sight. And we do make every effort to uphold it, within reason. Very few have ever managed to redeem their way back from it.

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Another note - the 'shut the fuck up please' is not encouraged in a discussion. What's the point if we're to let one person dominate and everyone else sod off so they can bask in their own proclaimed glory? There are still racial issues today. You might want to educate yourself on some of the still-standing laws on books, signs in towns, and prevailing attitudes in locations before popping off so strongly at another poster.

I note you've had a bit of a problem with being directly provocative with other players. Allow me to illuminate a somewhat Prime Directive for the NSG Forum: Attack the argument, not the poster. Hopefully you can grasp what that means, yes? Feel free to argue your side of things, but do not make it personal. That's a big no-no. Also not a good idea to use the word 'retarded'for 'stupid' or 'ridiculous' or the like. It is a very poor choice, and entirely inappropriate. Don't do it again.

Pot, kettle, black, my friend. No pun intended. Perhaps the 'thrown stones & glass houses' might be more to your liking? In any case, don't get personal. It isn't cute. It isn't witty. It's lazy and again, inappropriate to the forums.

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Postby Orvius » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:29 pm

Y'all shoulda just locked this thread down permanently, IMO. It's just asking for trouble.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:38 pm

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Postby Negroesinnews » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:59 pm

Arcanda wrote:Hello everyone.So, I just saw a short documentary on a White Student Union: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_MHp8iqtQ
The video is not the subject I wish to discuss, I just posted it as an introduction.

This Union featured in the documentary advocates, partly, for "white pride" and the things associated with it.Is white pride acceptable? Should whites be allowed to hold unions such as this in order to celebrate and preserve their cultural heritage? Is it racist?

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In my opinion, although the leader of the WSU in the video posted above makes interesting points (Of which the fact that other ethnic groups are "allowed" to have their own pride), I am forced to disagree with any sort of "white pride" on the matter.As the teacher said at some point, Black and Latino movements for pride often originate in places where they are or were historically a minority.

An argument of my own now is that "White pride" has an history of hatred with the KKK and the Confederate States of America, namely, and also the fact that the belief that whites are more evolved than other ethnic groups pushed for slavery, whereas "Black pride" or "Latino pride" (Not talking about the Black Panthers or the Aztlan advocates) are more oriented towards peace, and don't have any significant baggage.

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Seeing as Whites do not make up a historically maligned minority in the United States, I agree that being proud to be White here is fairly nonsensical and pointless.

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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:33 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:I understand that, but there has been the isolation of the various races of the world for thousands of years before any mixing happened, and that has formed the distinct races we have today. There are some genetic differences between different people.

http://time.com/91081/what-science-says ... -genetics/

Not to mention that natural selection applied until ~10,000 years ago, when agriculture was invented, and different conditions would mean that people of different features would've survived and passed on their genes.

This is honestly sad. No, there was never a period on the scale of thousands of years where large groups humans were isolated from each other. Furthermore thousands of years is NOT enough time to form a distinct taxonomic groupings among humans. Even more laughable is your claim that natural selection no longer applied after 10,000 years ago. No, it still applies even today.

And lastly, no, there are no "distinct races." Feel free to name a gene that is isolated among only ONE race and not any others. Please let this pseudoscience die.

But you will have genetic differences, to some extent, and some groups of people will look more similar to each other and share more genes than they do with others, which allows us to classify people into races. Natural Selection doesn't really apply today, as with the advent of agriculture, you can be a weak person who would otherwise die in the natural environment, and be taken care of by society, and pass on your genes, and therefore end natural selection.

I'm not an expert on this, but Sub-Saharan Africans lack Neanderthal Genes (as stated above), and there are definitely reasons why some people share certain features, and have distinct cosmetic differences.

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Postby Murkwood » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:34 pm

Be proud of national ideals, not race. That was easy.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:53 pm

Republic of Coldwater wrote:But you will have genetic differences, to some extent,

Among small populations, sure, and from an allele frequency standpoint. There is utterly no such distinct racial categories on the scale that is proposed.
Republic of Coldwater wrote:and some groups of people will look more similar to each other

Not enough to constitute a valid taxonomic group.
Republic of Coldwater wrote: and share more genes than they do with others, which allows us to classify people into races.

No it doesn't, it allows us to classify people per populations. Populations=/=race.
Republic of Coldwater wrote: Natural Selection doesn't really apply today, as with the advent of agriculture, you can be a weak person who would otherwise die in the natural environment, and be taken care of by society, and pass on your genes, and therefore end natural selection.

Then you really don't know what you're talking about.
Republic of Coldwater wrote:I'm not an expert on this, but Sub-Saharan Africans lack Neanderthal Genes (as stated above),

You most certainly are not an expert, or else you would be aware that this is nonsense.
Republic of Coldwater wrote: and there are definitely reasons why some people share certain features, and have distinct cosmetic differences.

And it isn't because there is an actual legitimate biological basis for race. Humans are social and primarily visual animals, and therefore we've developed a focus on superficial differences. Those superficial difference do not indicate any distinct grouping, however, because superficial appearance doesn't actually indicate the level of genetic diversity. For example, if you were to look at two fruit flies, would you be able to tell the difference between them 100% of the time if asked to identify them 100 times? No, of course not. And yet fruit flies have VASTLY more genetic diversity than humans.
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Postby Devvo Mate » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:58 pm

Mavorpen wrote:You most certainly are not an expert, or else you would be aware that this is nonsense.


Not that I disagree with the general message of your post, but nothing in your source backed up the claim that Africans have Neanderthal DNA, might wanna use another one.

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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:02 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:The only reason these other pride movements have risen up is in defiance of an overwhelming social narrative of inferiority for being a part of these groups.

So tell me when whites are oppressed by the majority, and then we'll talk white pride.

That sums up my opinion.
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