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Postby Catholic Federalized States » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:20 pm

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You're such an annoying person.

This is how systematic abuse and stereotypes begin.

Ah, I love the smell of quote mining in the afternoon.
Mavorpen wrote:But we don't. We do it because of what happened to us decades ago and STILL happens to us.

Have any more methods to decrease your credibility?


Do ... Do you even English?

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Postby Nuwe Suid Afrika » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:22 pm

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Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago.

And on that day, still no evidence was provided that any significant amount of black people blame their misfortunes solely on things that have happened over decades ago was provided.

Look around you. Ask any black person at all. There's not going to be any scientific report on why black people do or don't blame their livings on what happened in the past.


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Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago. Not every black is the little perfect human being you think they are, and the same can be said about every other race.


Has it not occurred to you that things which happened 200 or 60 years ago, and indeed are still happening now, are part of the reason why black people in America are disproportionately poor and disadvantaged?


I wasn't aware blacks were still forced to pick cotton and being whipped in the south.


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Has it not occurred to you that things which happened 200 or 60 years ago, and indeed are still happening now, are part of the reason why black people in America are disproportionately poor and disadvantaged?

Given that that poster literally complained about having to read when I provided him with a lengthy source that proved him wrong about a topic, I'm going to go with no.


It's just that I have better things to do with my time than Nationstates. Unlike you, I don't have over 50,000 genuine posts on a liberal paradise forum.


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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:22 pm

Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Ah, I love the smell of quote mining in the afternoon.

Have any more methods to decrease your credibility?


Do ... Do you even English?

Yes. Do you? Or is your problem only with certain words like "solely"?
Mavorpen wrote:And on that day, still no evidence was provided that any significant amount of black people blame their misfortunes solely on things that have happened over decades ago was provided.

Let me help you.

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Not involving anyone or anything else; only:
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:23 pm

Devvo Mate wrote:
Catholic Federalized States wrote:This is how systematic abuse and stereotypes begin.


???

I know whenever someone on the internet says something that annoys me, I have no choice but to hold all people of their ethnicity responsible, and systematically abuse them.
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Postby Devvo Mate » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:24 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:It's just that I have better things to do with my time than Nationstates. Unlike you, I don't have over 50,000 genuine posts on a liberal paradise forum.


And yet you've been posting for over an hour on his thread. Plenty of time to read a source

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Postby The United Kingdoms of Austinarya » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:24 pm

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Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago. Not every black is the little perfect human being you think they are, and the same can be said about every other race.


Has it not occurred to you that things which happened 200 or 60 years ago, and indeed are still happening now, are part of the reason why black people in America are disproportionately poor and disadvantaged?


Those things are still happening? So the Jim Crow Laws still exist as does slavery? No, I thought not, shut the fuck up, please.

Nowadays, policemen who arrest black criminals are racist, anyone who criticizes sharia law, burkas, halal meat ect is racist. Racism used to be a word for someone who treated people of other races or ethnicity's as inferior, because of slavery, apartheid ect. and other things that our ANCESTORS did, whites are seen as inferior. We didn't do those things ourselves therefore we are not responsible.

Blacks have killed millions of Afrikaners and Boers in Zimbabwe and South Africa and they also killed all the Whites in Haiti but these crimes are ignored. Why don't we hold them responsible for this? There is nothing racist about what im saying, if anything your the racist for wanting blacks to have more rights, basically, you're going against everything Martin Luther King and Desmond Tutu stood for.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:24 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:And on that day, still no evidence was provided that any significant amount of black people blame their misfortunes solely on things that have happened over decades ago was provided.

Look around you. Ask any black person at all. There's not going to be any scientific report on why black people do or don't blame their livings on what happened in the past.

Great, thanks for confirming you're making shit up.
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:It's just that I have better things to do with my time than Nationstates. Unlike you, I don't have over 50,000 genuine posts on a liberal paradise forum.

Which is hilarious because you, instead of reading it, CONTINUED to post on NSG. You have this utterly backwards. If you have better things to do, you would have actually READ it, rather than continue on NSG.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Devvo Mate » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:24 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:I wasn't aware blacks were still forced to pick cotton and being whipped in the south.


Because of course that is exactly what I said.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:25 pm

Devvo Mate wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:It's just that I have better things to do with my time than Nationstates. Unlike you, I don't have over 50,000 genuine posts on a liberal paradise forum.


And yet you've been posting for over an hour on his thread. Plenty of time to read a source

But that would be REASONABLE.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:26 pm

Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Ah, I love the smell of quote mining in the afternoon.

Have any more methods to decrease your credibility?


Do ... Do you even English?

You know, the rest of us don't seem to be having any trouble understanding him. Are you sure you're not actually Swahili or something?
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Postby Breitenfeld-Sibbesborg » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:26 pm

I am very proud to be white, and very proud to be "Norse," but that doesn't automatically mean I hate minorities, or want slavery or apartheid to exist. I am proud of my cultural heritage, and I feel I should have a right to show it. I also feel that students who are proud of their heritage should absolutely be allowed to gather and form a union. After all, many other groups of ethnically similar people form such unions, so why shouldn't whites? Sure, some white pride groups are racist, and advocate for some pretty bad things, but look at the black panthers. Look at the Five-Percent Nation. It is absurd to restrict only whites.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:28 pm

Breitenfeld-Sibbesborg wrote:I am very proud to be white, and very proud to be "Norse," but that doesn't automatically mean I hate minorities, or want slavery or apartheid to exist. I am proud of my cultural heritage, and I feel I should have a right to show it. I also feel that students who are proud of their heritage should absolutely be allowed to gather and form a union. After all, many other groups of ethnically similar people form such unions, so why shouldn't whites? Sure, some white pride groups are racist, and advocate for some pretty bad things, but look at the black panthers. Look at the Five-Percent Nation. It is absurd to restrict only whites.

Personally I would be actually interested in a "Norse" organization. Sounds like it would be fun.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Devvo Mate » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:28 pm

The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote:Those things are still happening? So the Jim Crow Laws still exist as does slavery? No, I thought not, shut the fuck up, please.


That isn't what I said. Your homework is to spruce up on your reading comprehension.

The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote:Nowadays, policemen who arrest black criminals are racist, anyone who criticizes sharia law, burkas, halal meat ect is racist. Racism used to be a word for someone who treated people of other races or ethnicity's as inferior, because of slavery, apartheid ect. and other things that our ANCESTORS did, whites are seen as inferior. We didn't do those things ourselves therefore we are not responsible.


This is delusional Britain First level bollocks and not even worth responding to.

The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote:Blacks have killed millions of Afrikaners and Boers in Zimbabwe and South Africa and they also killed all the Whites in Haiti but these crimes are ignored. Why don't we hold them responsible for this? There is nothing racist about what im saying, if anything your the racist for wanting blacks to have more rights, basically, you're going against everything Martin Luther King and Desmond Tutu stood for.


Millions? You sure about that mate? I never said anything about wanting blacks to have more rights, you really do struggling with reading. Maybe whites aren't the intellectual master race after all.

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Postby Slarvainian » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:29 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:Look around you. Ask any black person at all. There's not going to be any scientific report on why black people do or don't blame their livings on what happened in the past.

Is this another way of saying you don't have proof for the claim you are making?

I wasn't aware blacks were still forced to pick cotton and being whipped in the south.


The same discrimination is still being conducted: I treat you differently because of the colour of your skin.

It's just that I have better things to do with my time than Nationstates. Unlike you, I don't have over 50,000 genuine posts on a liberal paradise forum.


Marvopan has been on NS since 2011 though...
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Postby Ethopolis » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:29 pm

If there are color unions, there can be white unions. Anything otherwise is contradictory and pretty much upholds the invalidity of the modern "equality" movement.
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Postby Breitenfeld-Sibbesborg » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:29 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Breitenfeld-Sibbesborg wrote:I am very proud to be white, and very proud to be "Norse," but that doesn't automatically mean I hate minorities, or want slavery or apartheid to exist. I am proud of my cultural heritage, and I feel I should have a right to show it. I also feel that students who are proud of their heritage should absolutely be allowed to gather and form a union. After all, many other groups of ethnically similar people form such unions, so why shouldn't whites? Sure, some white pride groups are racist, and advocate for some pretty bad things, but look at the black panthers. Look at the Five-Percent Nation. It is absurd to restrict only whites.

Personally I would be actually interested in a "Norse" organization. Sounds like it would be fun.


There are no real pride groups around me, but there are several "Viking reenactment" groups near to where I live. They love it when I stop by, since I'm Swedish, and thus the only "Norseman" there.

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Postby Neoconstantius » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:30 pm

I think being "proud" of any skin color is pretty foolish. Be proud of yourself, your culture, your accomplishments. Don't be proud of the amount of melanin in your skin.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:31 pm

Breitenfeld-Sibbesborg wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Personally I would be actually interested in a "Norse" organization. Sounds like it would be fun.


There are no real pride groups around me, but there are several "Viking reenactment" groups near to where I live. They love it when I stop by, since I'm Swedish, and thus the only "Norseman" there.

I'm actually kind of jealous right now.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:32 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:And on that day, still no evidence was provided that any significant amount of black people blame their misfortunes solely on things that have happened over decades ago was provided.

Look around you. Ask any black person at all. There's not going to be any scientific report on why black people do or don't blame their livings on what happened in the past.

Actually, I imagine there actually is.

Anyway, just texted a black girl I work with. She says, (paraphrased) "What bothers me is how I have to change my accent to get a job."

Also, I'm pretty sure you're talking to a black guy.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:34 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:Look around you. Ask any black person at all. There's not going to be any scientific report on why black people do or don't blame their livings on what happened in the past.

Actually, I imagine there actually is.

Anyway, just texted a black girl I work with. She says, (paraphrased) "What bothers me is how I have to change my accent to get a job."

Also, I'm pretty sure you're talking to a black guy.

I kind of miss the old days where I was, in the mind of quite a lot of people, a teenage bisexual/lesbian white girl.
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"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Norstal » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:36 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Breitenfeld-Sibbesborg wrote:I am very proud to be white, and very proud to be "Norse," but that doesn't automatically mean I hate minorities, or want slavery or apartheid to exist. I am proud of my cultural heritage, and I feel I should have a right to show it. I also feel that students who are proud of their heritage should absolutely be allowed to gather and form a union. After all, many other groups of ethnically similar people form such unions, so why shouldn't whites? Sure, some white pride groups are racist, and advocate for some pretty bad things, but look at the black panthers. Look at the Five-Percent Nation. It is absurd to restrict only whites.

Personally I would be actually interested in a "Norse" organization. Sounds like it would be fun.

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Postby Slarvainian » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:41 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Actually, I imagine there actually is.

Anyway, just texted a black girl I work with. She says, (paraphrased) "What bothers me is how I have to change my accent to get a job."

Also, I'm pretty sure you're talking to a black guy.

I kind of miss the old days where I was, in the mind of quite a lot of people, a teenage bisexual/lesbian white girl.


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Postby Catholic Federalized States » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:44 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Devvo Mate wrote:
???

I know whenever someone on the internet says something that annoys me, I have no choice but to hold all people of their ethnicity responsible, and systematically abuse them.


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Postby Aelex » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:07 pm

I can understand that American people, because they don't are part of a nation (to it's litteral term) feel the need to "identifiate" as a race rather than as a culture, but that's still silly...
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:11 pm

Any type of ethnic pride is nonsense. You should be proud of your individual accomplishments and not the accomplishments of other people you've never met before. To me, X pride (black pride, brown pride, green pride, and yes white pride) is compensating for something.
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