White Pride

[Mavorpen]

It's systematic and commonplace because of people like you.

No, I actually try recognize my own possible biases and prejudices towards black people rather than pretend like I'm an angel that can do no wrong.

What? What rights have been infringed because of your colour?

When did I say my rights were being infringed upon?

A singer who said he's a "New Black", a breed that doesn't blame something that happened 200 years ago on his misfortunes. The only sensible type of black.

So then he's basically every black person in the country. I don't see what's special about him.

[Devvo Mate]

A singer who said he's a "New Black", a breed that doesn't blame something that happened 200 years ago on his misfortunes. The only sensible type of black.

Jesus Christ you are awful.

[The United Kingdoms of Austinarya]

No. White Pride is not acceptable, white pride caused the starvation, slavery and death of millions of people. It has caused imperialism, colonialism, genocide and a lot of other horrible things. White people should be aware of their privileges but not be proud of it. White Pride is one of the most fascist and reactionary things in the world. It is a horrible thing. Individual culture is ok but pride for the most aggressive horrible race in existence is a horrible thing. I am white and I still think white history is horrible.

Would you say the same about black pride you Commie scum bag?

Black Nationalism has caused genocide in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Haiti ect. Sure, Afrikaners persecuted the blacks in the old days, but what would you prefer: Separate Toilets or Genocide (plus the terrorism Nelson Mandela used), don't get me wrong I respect Mandela for the loyalty he showed to his race but his methods were just as bad as those of the KKK. Martin Luther King and Desmond Tutu didn't have to use terrorism, as for Malcolm X, he was the real racist who wanted to send the whites back to Europe and take America for the blacks, ironic seeing as it was White people who took them away from Africa and to America.

There is no such thing as white privilege, you are actually talking about white achievement, colonialism and imperialism has benefited the primitive third world, if it wasn't for us then they wouldn't have any education or medicine and would still be living in mud huts and have witch doctors, take India for instance:

The British came into India in the 1600s. The British government was not officially involved, just companies (mainly The East India Company), until the first uprising in 1857. Before the British came, there was heavy slavery, a bad economy, and Muslims ruled India, persecuting native Indian religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, and so on.
During the time of British colonialism in India:
The British worked to stop slavery.
The British revitalized India's economy.
The British freed India from religious persecution and allowed India to be the land of religious freedom it is today. Without the British, it is possible Hinduism, Sikhism, and Jainism would have become extinct.
The British established the framework for India's justice system, civil service, loyal army and efficient police force.
The British built railways, roads, canals, mines, sewers, plantations and the establishment of English law and language.
The British built great cities including Bombay, Calcutta and Madras
The British founded some of the finest universities and museums in India.
The British protected wildlife and ancient buildings, such as the Taj Mahal.
Allowed India to inherit political stability after the British left.
We also introduced Cricket to India and Pakistan and both countries are very well known nowadays for their excellent cricket teams which has benefited them economically.

Imagine the third world without colonialism, they wouldn't have any infrastructure or wealth if it wasn't for Europe. Whites are in no way privileged, affirmative action discriminates against white employees for instance. Another example would be the media, they go on about Stephen Lawrence but never talk about Kriss Donald, a white teenager killed by Pakis. Blacks have Black history month, but no other race has their own history month, imagine the uproar if their was a white history month. We have to build churches for Muslim immigrants, however, in Saudi Arabia, there are no churches for the millions of Christians who live there, imagine the uproar if we demanded that the primitive backward thinking government of Saudi Arabia build churches for the Christians who live there. Again, if a Christian were to oppose gay marriage then they would be homophobic, however the liberals who hate him would not complain about Arabs in the Middle East beheading gays. In Europe, if a man were to wolf whistle at a woman then he is sexist yet no one highlights the sexism in the middle east where women can be stoned for getting raped. Again with the media, ever notice how when a Muslim commits a terror attack the media spend ages trying to convince everyone that Islam is a religion of peace, yet when a black criminal gets shot by a white police officer, the media spend all their time trying to show all white cops as racists.

The word Paki is another example, people say it is racist to call them Pakis yet they don't mind if we use nicknames such as Aussie, Ruskie, Yankee, Kiwi ect. The same goes for the nicknames of Chinkie or Japper yet it's fine for them to call us Whitey or White boy or whatever shit they want.

I don't understand why everyone gets all guilty about being white, it's not like we're responsible for slavery, that was our ancestors who did that, we are only responsible for ourselves. If I said all Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus then I would be labelled as a Nazi but it's fine to blame all white people for slavery, even though Africans started the slave trade and even though Arabs also had a slave trade, slavery still exists in the third world, even though Europe tried to get rid of it, for example, Italy in Abyssinia.

Personally I think that if blacks and asians can be proud of their heritage then whites should be allowed as well. Black pride has racism in it too, just look at the Black Panther Party and African National Congress, they are just as bad, if not worse than the KKK and National Front. Before everyone on this thread starts calling me a Nazi, I would like to inform you that I am a firm supporter of Israel, every ethnic group deserves their own homeland where they can be free from persecution and be put first before foreigners. That's not to say that foreigners shouldn't be able to stay here, they are welcome here as long as they follow our laws, get a job and don't try to impose their traditions on us. They can be proud of their heritage but if they are staying in Britain then they should realise that they are British in a civic way.

[Devvo Mate]

No. White Pride is not acceptable, white pride caused the starvation, slavery and death of millions of people. It has caused imperialism, colonialism, genocide and a lot of other horrible things. White people should be aware of their privileges but not be proud of it. White Pride is one of the most fascist and reactionary things in the world. It is a horrible thing. Individual culture is ok but pride for the most aggressive horrible race in existence is a horrible thing. I am white and I still think white history is horrible.

Would you say the same about black pride you Commie scum bag?

Black Nationalism has caused genocide in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Haiti ect. Sure, Afrikaners persecuted the blacks in the old days, but what would you prefer: Separate Toilets or Genocide (plus the terrorism Nelson Mandela used), don't get me wrong I respect Mandela for the loyalty he showed to his race but his methods were just as bad as those of the KKK. Martin Luther King and Desmond Tutu didn't have to use terrorism, as for Malcolm X, he was the real racist who wanted to send the whites back to Europe and take America for the blacks, ironic seeing as it was White people who took them away from Africa and to America.

There is no such thing as white privilege, you are actually talking about white achievement, colonialism and imperialism has benefited the primitive third world, if it wasn't for us then they wouldn't have any education or medicine and would still be living in mud huts and have witch doctors, take India for instance:

The British came into India in the 1600s. The British government was not officially involved, just companies (mainly The East India Company), until the first uprising in 1857. Before the British came, there was heavy slavery, a bad economy, and Muslims ruled India, persecuting native Indian religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, and so on.
During the time of British colonialism in India:
The British worked to stop slavery.
The British revitalized India's economy.
The British freed India from religious persecution and allowed India to be the land of religious freedom it is today. Without the British, it is possible Hinduism, Sikhism, and Jainism would have become extinct.
The British established the framework for India's justice system, civil service, loyal army and efficient police force.
The British built railways, roads, canals, mines, sewers, plantations and the establishment of English law and language.
The British built great cities including Bombay, Calcutta and Madras
The British founded some of the finest universities and museums in India.
The British protected wildlife and ancient buildings, such as the Taj Mahal.
Allowed India to inherit political stability after the British left.
We also introduced Cricket to India and Pakistan and both countries are very well known nowadays for their excellent cricket teams which has benefited them economically.

Imagine the third world without colonialism, they wouldn't have any infrastructure or wealth if it wasn't for Europe. Whites are in no way privileged, affirmative action discriminates against white employees for instance. Another example would be the media, they go on about Stephen Lawrence but never talk about Kriss Donald, a white teenager killed by Pakis. Blacks have Black history month, but no other race has their own history month, imagine the uproar if their was a white history month. We have to build churches for Muslim immigrants, however, in Saudi Arabia, there are no churches for the millions of Christians who live there, imagine the uproar if we demanded that the primitive backward thinking government of Saudi Arabia build churches for the Christians who live there. Again, if a Christian were to oppose gay marriage then they would be homophobic, however the liberals who hate him would not complain about Arabs in the Middle East beheading gays. In Europe, if a man were to wolf whistle at a woman then he is sexist yet no one highlights the sexism in the middle east where women can be stoned for getting raped. Again with the media, ever notice how when a Muslim commits a terror attack the media spend ages trying to convince everyone that Islam is a religion of peace, yet when a black criminal gets shot by a white police officer, the media spend all their time trying to show all white cops as racists.

The word Paki is another example, people say it is racist to call them Pakis yet they don't mind if we use nicknames such as Aussie, Ruskie, Yankee, Kiwi ect. The same goes for the nicknames of Chinkie or Japper yet it's fine for them to call us Whitey or White boy or whatever shit they want.

I don't understand why everyone gets all guilty about being white, it's not like we're responsible for slavery, that was our ancestors who did that, we are only responsible for ourselves. If I said all Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus then I would be labelled as a Nazi but it's fine to blame all white people for slavery, even though Africans started the slave trade and even though Arabs also had a slave trade, slavery still exists in the third world, even though Europe tried to get rid of it, for example, Italy in Abyssinia.

Personally I think that if blacks and asians can be proud of their heritage then whites should be allowed as well. Black pride has racism in it too, just look at the Black Panther Party and African National Congress, they are just as bad, if not worse than the KKK and National Front. Before everyone on this thread starts calling me a Nazi, I would like to inform you that I am a firm supporter of Israel, every ethnic group deserves their own homeland where they can be free from persecution and be put first before foreigners. That's not to say that foreigners shouldn't be able to stay here, they are welcome here as long as they follow our laws, get a job and don't try to impose their traditions on us. They can be proud of their heritage but if they are staying in Britain then they should realise that they are British in a civic way.

When you're out of your teens you'll be embarrassed that you used to think this.

[Catholic Federalized States]

A singer who said he's a "New Black", a breed that doesn't blame something that happened 200 years ago on his misfortunes. The only sensible type of black.

So then he's basically every black person in the country. I don't see what's special about him.

You have problems.

[Mavorpen]

So then he's basically every black person in the country. I don't see what's special about him.

You have problems.

If by "problems," you mean not being racist and actually understanding black people, then yes.

[Catholic Federalized States]

You have problems.

If by "problems," you mean not being racist and actually understanding black people, then yes.

You're not funny nor smart.

People who try to debate for 5 pages and end up contradicting themselves and support what the other person said in the beginning are a waste of time and life. Goodbye.

[Mavorpen]

You're not funny nor smart.

Not sure where I said that I am.

People who try to debate for 5 pages and end up contradicting themselves and support what the other person said in the beginning are a waste of time and life. Goodbye.

Thank you for the advice, I'll make sure to keep that in mind the next time you post nonsensical gibberish about what you think black people are like.

[Devvo Mate]

You're not funny nor smart.

People who try to debate for 5 pages and end up contradicting themselves and support what the other person said in the beginning are a waste of time and life. Goodbye.

In other words "I know I'm wrong and have lost the argument, so I'm bailing before I totally embarrass myself"

[Mavorpen]

You're not funny nor smart.

People who try to debate for 5 pages and end up contradicting themselves and support what the other person said in the beginning are a waste of time and life. Goodbye.

In other words "I know I'm wrong and have lost the argument, so I'm bailing before I totally embarrass myself"

It's a bit too late for that.

[Catholic Federalized States]

You're not funny nor smart.

People who try to debate for 5 pages and end up contradicting themselves and support what the other person said in the beginning are a waste of time and life. Goodbye.

In other words "I know I'm wrong and have lost the argument, so I'm bailing before I totally embarrass myself"

What are you, his girlfriend?

Read his posts.

[Devvo Mate]

What are you, his girlfriend?

Read his posts.

The classic sign of an attention seeker is to announce that they're leaving and make a big deal about saying goodbye, only to carry on posting in the same thread.

[Slarvainian]

A singer who said he's a "New Black", a breed that doesn't blame something that happened 200 years ago on his misfortunes. The only sensible type of black.

Jesus Christ you are awful.

I think the credibility of anyone's argument is gone once they start generalizing a whole group of people based on a irrelevant characteristic.

[Nuwe Suid Afrika]

You have problems.

If by "problems," you mean not being racist and actually understanding black people, then yes.

There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago. Not every black is the little perfect human being you think they are, and the same can be said about every other race.

[The United Kingdoms of Austinarya]

Would you say the same about black pride you Commie scum bag?

Black Nationalism has caused genocide in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Haiti ect. Sure, Afrikaners persecuted the blacks in the old days, but what would you prefer: Separate Toilets or Genocide (plus the terrorism Nelson Mandela used), don't get me wrong I respect Mandela for the loyalty he showed to his race but his methods were just as bad as those of the KKK. Martin Luther King and Desmond Tutu didn't have to use terrorism, as for Malcolm X, he was the real racist who wanted to send the whites back to Europe and take America for the blacks, ironic seeing as it was White people who took them away from Africa and to America.

There is no such thing as white privilege, you are actually talking about white achievement, colonialism and imperialism has benefited the primitive third world, if it wasn't for us then they wouldn't have any education or medicine and would still be living in mud huts and have witch doctors, take India for instance:

The British came into India in the 1600s. The British government was not officially involved, just companies (mainly The East India Company), until the first uprising in 1857. Before the British came, there was heavy slavery, a bad economy, and Muslims ruled India, persecuting native Indian religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, and so on.
During the time of British colonialism in India:
The British worked to stop slavery.
The British revitalized India's economy.
The British freed India from religious persecution and allowed India to be the land of religious freedom it is today. Without the British, it is possible Hinduism, Sikhism, and Jainism would have become extinct.
The British established the framework for India's justice system, civil service, loyal army and efficient police force.
The British built railways, roads, canals, mines, sewers, plantations and the establishment of English law and language.
The British built great cities including Bombay, Calcutta and Madras
The British founded some of the finest universities and museums in India.
The British protected wildlife and ancient buildings, such as the Taj Mahal.
Allowed India to inherit political stability after the British left.
We also introduced Cricket to India and Pakistan and both countries are very well known nowadays for their excellent cricket teams which has benefited them economically.

Imagine the third world without colonialism, they wouldn't have any infrastructure or wealth if it wasn't for Europe. Whites are in no way privileged, affirmative action discriminates against white employees for instance. Another example would be the media, they go on about Stephen Lawrence but never talk about Kriss Donald, a white teenager killed by Pakis. Blacks have Black history month, but no other race has their own history month, imagine the uproar if their was a white history month. We have to build churches for Muslim immigrants, however, in Saudi Arabia, there are no churches for the millions of Christians who live there, imagine the uproar if we demanded that the primitive backward thinking government of Saudi Arabia build churches for the Christians who live there. Again, if a Christian were to oppose gay marriage then they would be homophobic, however the liberals who hate him would not complain about Arabs in the Middle East beheading gays. In Europe, if a man were to wolf whistle at a woman then he is sexist yet no one highlights the sexism in the middle east where women can be stoned for getting raped. Again with the media, ever notice how when a Muslim commits a terror attack the media spend ages trying to convince everyone that Islam is a religion of peace, yet when a black criminal gets shot by a white police officer, the media spend all their time trying to show all white cops as racists.

The word Paki is another example, people say it is racist to call them Pakis yet they don't mind if we use nicknames such as Aussie, Ruskie, Yankee, Kiwi ect. The same goes for the nicknames of Chinkie or Japper yet it's fine for them to call us Whitey or White boy or whatever shit they want.

I don't understand why everyone gets all guilty about being white, it's not like we're responsible for slavery, that was our ancestors who did that, we are only responsible for ourselves. If I said all Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus then I would be labelled as a Nazi but it's fine to blame all white people for slavery, even though Africans started the slave trade and even though Arabs also had a slave trade, slavery still exists in the third world, even though Europe tried to get rid of it, for example, Italy in Abyssinia.

Personally I think that if blacks and asians can be proud of their heritage then whites should be allowed as well. Black pride has racism in it too, just look at the Black Panther Party and African National Congress, they are just as bad, if not worse than the KKK and National Front. Before everyone on this thread starts calling me a Nazi, I would like to inform you that I am a firm supporter of Israel, every ethnic group deserves their own homeland where they can be free from persecution and be put first before foreigners. That's not to say that foreigners shouldn't be able to stay here, they are welcome here as long as they follow our laws, get a job and don't try to impose their traditions on us. They can be proud of their heritage but if they are staying in Britain then they should realise that they are British in a civic way.

When you're out of your teens you'll be embarrassed that you used to think this.

Grow a pair you Commie twat

[Sun Wukong]

If by "problems," you mean not being racist and actually understanding black people, then yes.

There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago. Not every black is the little perfect human being you think they are, and the same can be said about every other race.

"How can I strawman, and condescend at the same time, while being really pedantic and missing the point?"

[Mavorpen]

There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago.

And on that day, still no evidence was provided that any significant amount of black people blame their misfortunes solely on things that have happened over decades ago was provided.

Not every black is the little perfect human being you think they are, and the same can be said about every other race.

It's a good thing that I never said that they are.

[Devvo Mate]

There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago. Not every black is the little perfect human being you think they are, and the same can be said about every other race.

Has it not occurred to you that things which happened 200 or 60 years ago, and indeed are still happening now, are part of the reason why black people in America are disproportionately poor and disadvantaged?

[Mavorpen]

There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago. Not every black is the little perfect human being you think they are, and the same can be said about every other race.

"How can I strawman, and condescend at the same time, while being really pedantic and missing the point?"

Like I said before, this is nothing more than a childish game of "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I!?" It's a tool to try to gain legitimacy for racism by claiming that the other side does it just as much.

[Mavorpen]

There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago. Not every black is the little perfect human being you think they are, and the same can be said about every other race.

Has it not occurred to you that things which happened 200 or 60 years ago, and indeed are still happening now, are part of the reason why black people in America are disproportionately poor and disadvantaged?

Given that that poster literally complained about having to read when I provided him with a lengthy source that proved him wrong about a topic, I'm going to go with no.

[Catholic Federalized States]

And on that day, still no evidence was provided that any significant amount of black people blame their misfortunes solely on things that have happened over decades ago was provided.

Well sure, it's "retarded" if that's what black people host black pride events for.
But we don't. We do it because of what happened to us decades ago

You're such an annoying person.

This is how systematic abuse and stereotypes begin.

[Devvo Mate]

This is how systematic abuse and stereotypes begin.

???

[Slarvainian]

There's a lot of blacks that blame things that happened 200 years ago on their misfortunes, some of them blame things that happened 60 years ago. Not every black is the little perfect human being you think they are, and the same can be said about every other race.

Has it not occurred to you that things which happened 200 or 60 years ago, and indeed are still happening now, are part of the reason why black people in America are disproportionately poor and disadvantaged?

The only reason why history should be mentioned in the conversation, is to show the ridiculousness of how long the discrimination has been happening.

[Mavorpen]

And on that day, still no evidence was provided that any significant amount of black people blame their misfortunes solely on things that have happened over decades ago was provided.

Well sure, it's "retarded" if that's what black people host black pride events for.
But we don't. We do it because of what happened to us decades ago

You're such an annoying person.

This is how systematic abuse and stereotypes begin.

Ah, I love the smell of quote mining in the afternoon.

But we don't. We do it because of what happened to us decades ago and STILL happens to us.

Have any more methods to decrease your credibility?

[Schiltzberg]

Imagine the third world without colonialism, they wouldn't have any infrastructure or wealth if it wasn't for Europe.

Imperialism from the European powers is what destroyed many cultures, governments, and traditions, and the only thing that blinds you from seeing that is your naïve, one-sided ethnocentrism. Before the Europeans started to imperialize Africa in the 1600's, there were several large empires and stable governments in that part of the world. The local cultures had everything under control until the Europeans arrived and demanded this control from them. The Europeans exploited the natural resources, and brought them to Europe to benefit their economy. The Africans were given nothing for these crops and resources that were most likely planted and harvested by the Africans themselves. Africans were enslaved and brought to other European colonies, especially in North America, and in many of the European colonies, were given absolutely no say in the government. Then in the twentieth century, the Europeans hastily pulled out of Africa, which was a good thing, but they refused to help out the new governments in their former colonies, so many of these new governments became weak and unstable. Africa was pushed so far behind to curb because of this, and to this day is not able to compete with the other nations of the world in this new globalized economy. But I guess the Europeans got what they wanted, right? This happened not only in Africa, but also in North America, South America, Australia, and parts of Asia as well.