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Postby Vashtanaraada » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:36 am

Pride is ultimately love.
Like all love, it is blindness.
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Postby Christian State of Mississippi » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:37 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Christian State of Mississippi wrote:Indeed. But whites have showed so much love and devotion to God than any other race in history.

Does that mean that you shouldn't love thy neighbor as thyself, or that he doesn't look out for non-white Christians as much as white Christians?

Look, I'm not saying that God hates nonwhites and that we should hate them. I'm just saying that white folks are on the top of the pyramid and that God knows that.

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Postby Jute » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:38 am

Christian State of Mississippi wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Does that mean that you shouldn't love thy neighbor as thyself, or that he doesn't look out for non-white Christians as much as white Christians?

Look, I'm not saying that God hates nonwhites and that we should hate them. I'm just saying that white folks are on the top of the pyramid and that God knows that.

Why should there be a pyramid?
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When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
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that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
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Postby Devvo Mate » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:38 am

White people have not been historically oppressed for centuries based on the colour of their skin. Black pride is a backlash to being told for God knows how long that you are subhuman, stupid, worthless, violent, not a real person. Whites have faced no such oppression so don't need an equivalent pride movement.

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Postby Sanctissima » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:39 am

Christian State of Mississippi wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Does that mean that you shouldn't love thy neighbor as thyself, or that he doesn't look out for non-white Christians as much as white Christians?

Look, I'm not saying that God hates nonwhites and that we should hate them. I'm just saying that white folks are on the top of the pyramid and that God knows that.


And... you're a racist.

Kudos, please enjoy your complementary white cowl and pointy hat.

What basis do you have for this claim, because I can assure, if you're using the Bible as source material, you're wrong.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:39 am

Paledonn wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:This logic always makes me laugh.

"Sir, did you kidnap this woman and rape her mercilessly for 10 years?"

"Yes, but I let her go of my own accord. I should be praised, right?"

Then all black people should be ashamed because it was black people who sold other blacks into slavery.

..What does this have to do with what I posted?
Paledonn wrote: These whites are different people, they did something good when they saw that something bad was happening.

You were the one who lumped these people together by saying "white politicians of course," as though they were all a singular monolith.
Paledonn wrote:A race is not a single person. It is many.

A race is nothing. It doesn't exist except as a social concept that forces it to be something.
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Postby Norstal » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:41 am

Paledonn wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:This logic always makes me laugh.

"Sir, did you kidnap this woman and rape her mercilessly for 10 years?"

"Yes, but I let her go of my own accord. I should be praised, right?"

Then all black people should be ashamed because it was black people who sold other blacks into slavery. These whites are different people, they did something good when they saw that something bad was happening. A race is not a single person. It is many.

Whites should be ashamed for starting two worlds wars then, eh?

Actually three if you count Napoleonic Wars.
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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:42 am

Mavorpen wrote:A race is nothing. It doesn't exist except as a social concept that forces it to be something.

Really?

Is this:
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or this:

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Socially constructed?

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Postby Jute » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:44 am

Devvo Mate wrote:White people have not been historically oppressed for centuries based on the colour of their skin. Black pride is a backlash to being told for God knows how long that you are subhuman, stupid, worthless, violent, not a real person. Whites have faced no such oppression so don't need an equivalent pride movement.
I understand, and agree for the most part.
That's not to say light-colored people haven't been oppressed, though. Take the Finns for example, they were often very oppressed by the Russians.
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Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Jute » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:45 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:A race is nothing. It doesn't exist except as a social concept that forces it to be something.

Really?

Is this:
Image

or this:

Image

Socially constructed?

Those are different ethnicities, who have smaller or larger (but still pretty much insignificant) genetic differences.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Norstal » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:45 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:A race is nothing. It doesn't exist except as a social concept that forces it to be something.

Really?

Is this:
Image

or this:

Image


Socially constructed?

Yep. Neanderthals are different species. The pictures you posted, those are ethnicity. Not races.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:45 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:A race is nothing. It doesn't exist except as a social concept that forces it to be something.

Really?

Is this:
Image


or this:
Image


Socially constructed?

The categorization of those people into "races" is socially constructed, yes.
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Postby Vashtanaraada » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:45 am

I am worried by the way people are trying to justify racialism with their spiritual beliefs.
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Postby Paledonn » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:45 am

Christian State of Mississippi wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Does that mean that you shouldn't love thy neighbor as thyself, or that he doesn't look out for non-white Christians as much as white Christians?

Look, I'm not saying that God hates nonwhites and that we should hate them. I'm just saying that white folks are on the top of the pyramid and that God knows that.

Um, sir, you know the pyramids were built by pagans right? :geek:

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Postby Devvo Mate » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:45 am

Jute wrote:I understand, and agree for the most part.
That's not to say light-colored people haven't been oppressed, though. Take the Finns for example, they were often very oppressed by the Russians.


I said based on the colour of their skin.

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Postby Jute » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:47 am

Devvo Mate wrote:
Jute wrote:I understand, and agree for the most part.
That's not to say light-colored people haven't been oppressed, though. Take the Finns for example, they were often very oppressed by the Russians.


I said based on the colour of their skin.

That is true, they were discriminated based on their ethnicity. Language and things like that. How much of a difference is that exactly, though?
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:47 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Really?

Is this:
Image

or this:

Image

Socially constructed?

The categorization of those people into "races" is socially constructed, yes.

Maybe current races, but do you not realize that there are certain genetic and cosmetic distinctions between different peoples across the world the same way there are differences in Dogs, or Wolves?

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Postby Vashtanaraada » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:48 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The categorization of those people into "races" is socially constructed, yes.

Maybe current races, but do you not realize that there are certain genetic and cosmetic distinctions between different peoples across the world the same way there are differences in Dogs, or Wolves?


You comparing black people to dogs mate?
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Postby Sanctissima » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:48 am

Devvo Mate wrote:
Jute wrote:I understand, and agree for the most part.
That's not to say light-colored people haven't been oppressed, though. Take the Finns for example, they were often very oppressed by the Russians.


I said based on the colour of their skin.


Well, actually:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:49 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The categorization of those people into "races" is socially constructed, yes.

Maybe current races, but do you not realize that there are certain genetic and cosmetic distinctions between different peoples across the world the same way there are differences in Dogs, or Wolves?

No. It's not the same as in dogs or wolves in any sense, especially dogs.
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Postby Jute » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:49 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The categorization of those people into "races" is socially constructed, yes.

Maybe current races, but do you not realize that there are certain genetic and cosmetic distinctions between different peoples across the world the same way there are differences in Dogs, or Wolves?

Those are so small that I'd think they're insignificant. Including because of the mixture of people with slightly different genes I'd say culture is a better way to differentiate people.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:49 am

Vashtanaraada wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Maybe current races, but do you not realize that there are certain genetic and cosmetic distinctions between different peoples across the world the same way there are differences in Dogs, or Wolves?


You comparing black people to dogs mate?
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No he's not.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Devvo Mate » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:49 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:Maybe current races, but do you not realize that there are certain genetic and cosmetic distinctions between different peoples across the world the same way there are differences in Dogs, or Wolves?


Dogs have been specifically bred for different purposes over the last couple of tens of thousands years, completely incomparable. And even then they are all still the same subspecies.

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Postby Norstal » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:50 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:Maybe current races, but do you not realize that there are certain genetic and cosmetic distinctions between different peoples across the world the same way there are differences in Dogs, or Wolves?

Breeding categories are not scientific.

Devvo Mate wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Maybe current races, but do you not realize that there are certain genetic and cosmetic distinctions between different peoples across the world the same way there are differences in Dogs, or Wolves?


Dogs have been specifically bred for different purposes over the last couple of tens of thousands years, completely incomparable. And even then they are all still the same subspecies.

No. Breeding categories are not scientific. They're all determined by Kennel Clubs...which is not a scientific organization.
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Postby Jute » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:51 am

Vashtanaraada wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Maybe current races, but do you not realize that there are certain genetic and cosmetic distinctions between different peoples across the world the same way there are differences in Dogs, or Wolves?


You comparing black people to dogs mate?
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No, he's comparing humans in general to dogs. Canine races are much more diverse though, and like I said, "miscegenation" makes a differentiation based on that more or less pointless anyway.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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